I just want to say that that Cocoanut Koala is one terrific broad.
Running from that voluminous post count, there, Cocoanut?
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Enabran Templar
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01-27-2006 08:59
I just want to say that that Cocoanut Koala is one terrific broad. Running from that voluminous post count, there, Cocoanut? _____________________
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Jake Reitveld
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01-27-2006 09:08
My only comment ... I can tell you from first hand experience that many of the posts accused of being thinly veiled attacks against Prokofy are NOT. I know this. They are really thinly veiled attacks against me! You have been gunning for me ever since I declared myself emperor of Second Life Aimee! I know it. You even outed me for having a crush on you, and tossed my broken heart aside. in my own forum even. How heartless can you be? Yours Truly, His Imperial Highness Jake I. Crushed in Tamsi. ![]() P.S. For those who may not know this, Aimee is my freind and I like her very much. The above is intented as humor. So please keep all comments about my abilities as a lawyer, or nazi comparisons, or any other overblown misconstruction of this post for your self. This disclaimer has been included to assit res mods in identifying humours responses that might not quiet be on topic. No resemblce to actual TOS/CS violations is intended, and as such TOS/CS violations are coincidental and purely the result of error or inadevertance on the part of the poster. _____________________
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Aimee Weber
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01-27-2006 09:10
I know this. They are really thinly veiled attacks against me! You have been gunning for me ever since I declared myself emperor of Second Life Aimee! I know it. You even outed me for having a crush on you, and tossed my broken heart aside. in my own forum even. How heartless can you be? Yours Truly, His Imperial Highness Jake I. Crushed in Tamsi. ![]() P.S. For those who may not know this, Aimee is my freind and I like her very much. The above is intented as humor. So please keep all comments about my abilities as a lawyer, or nazi comparisons, or any other overblown misconstruction of this post for your self. This disclaimer has been included to assit res mods in identifying humours responses that might not quiet be on topic. No resemblce to actual TOS/CS violations is intended, and as such TOS/CS violations are coincidental and purely the result of error or inadevertance on the part of the poster. Jake = Hitler. (Disarming emoticon denotes joke)_____________________
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Cocoanut Cookie
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01-27-2006 09:11
Running from that voluminous post count, there, Cocoanut? No, jerk. coco _____________________
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Enabran Templar
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01-27-2006 09:18
No, jerk. k _____________________
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Jake Reitveld
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01-27-2006 09:27
Jake = Hitler. (Disarming emoticon denotes joke)Well I was thinking more Napoleon, so as to avoid the the inevitable discussion of godwin's law Now this is truly a meta topic._____________________
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Aimee Weber
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01-27-2006 09:27
No, jerk. Wow, getting right to the point. _____________________
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Aimee Weber
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01-27-2006 09:28
Well I was thinking more Napoleon, so as to avoid the the inevitable discussion of godwin's law Now this is truly a meta topic.Jake = Napoleon ![]() _____________________
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Jake Reitveld
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01-27-2006 09:36
Does that mean I get a Nifty Preen Napoleon uniform?
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01-27-2006 09:42
But it won't be your job in a week or two. It will be someone elses job. At which time they must also learn. Hopefully they will have a few notes to read from those who just went threw it. If not it's all rinse and repeat from here on out. This new Res Mod system is already flawed. (attempting to reign this back to the original topic/s) actually Martin, there is. there is a special forum for ResMods to post concerns over how to perform our job satisfactorily and to ake comments/suggestions which will be available to any future ResMods. so, yes.. there is and it's already becoming a useful tool. without overstepping any boundaries, i would like to mention that the ResMod forums are being used very well. from the posts i've seen there, we're collectively taking this role very seriously and are trying our best to come to a common ground that we can all operate from. i suspect that the next couple of days will see it's fair share of chaos, but it's to be expected with this new frontier in forum moderation. not only expected, but necessary.. just as these discussions are. we are discussing all the topics being brought up and are aiming towards a goal of fair and decent operations. there are already two threads about this very topic.. and more. one thing i would also like to point out is that any new developments are being suggested to be presented to the community at large (well, the forums anyway) before anything goes in to practice as an extra step towards fairness to the community as a whole. please continue to point out any mis-steps, mistakes, oddities or aberrations anyone may perceive. this will be the only way to ensure a smoother transition into Resident Moderation. (of course, opinions, suggestions and even *gulp* postive reactions are welcome too. )Ps - i sort of like the idea of voting on who you feel has done the best and worst jobs. as long as it's not used maliciously and treated seriously that is. _____________________
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Aimee Weber
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01-27-2006 09:50
Does that mean I get a Nifty Preen Napoleon uniform? ![]() Yes. _____________________
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Eboni Khan
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01-27-2006 10:07
My only comment ... I can tell you from first hand experience that many of the posts accused of being thinly veiled attacks against Prokofy are NOT. I think most people with a reading comprehension above 8th grade will disagree. |
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Aimee Weber
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01-27-2006 10:15
I think most people with a reading comprehension above 8th grade will disagree. Well it certainly isn't my intention. I invite folks to link me any recent posts of mine that contain Prokofy attacks and I will edit them to remove the confusion. But I hope you afford me some fairness in the accusation. If the perceived "attacks" are so general that they could apply to many people, or if an attack is found because of a careful and meticulous attempt to find one via creative interpretation, then it's hardly fair to me. If I say "calling people names is bad" I understand somebody could interpret this as "Prokofy calls people names and is bad." but how could I be free to express my general point without these kinds of specific interpretations? _____________________
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Martin Magpie
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01-27-2006 10:24
(attempting to reign this back to the original topic/s) actually Martin, there is. there is a special forum for ResMods to post concerns over how to perform our job satisfactorily and to ake comments/suggestions which will be available to any future ResMods. so, yes.. there is and it's already becoming a useful tool. without overstepping any boundaries, i would like to mention that the ResMod forums are being used very well. from the posts i've seen there, we're collectively taking this role very seriously and are trying our best to come to a common ground that we can all operate from. i suspect that the next couple of days will see it's fair share of chaos, but it's to be expected with this new frontier in forum moderation. not only expected, but necessary.. just as these discussions are. we are discussing all the topics being brought up and are aiming towards a goal of fair and decent operations. there are already two threads about this very topic.. and more. one thing i would also like to point out is that any new developments are being suggested to be presented to the community at large (well, the forums anyway) before anything goes in to practice as an extra step towards fairness to the community as a whole. please continue to point out any mis-steps, mistakes, oddities or aberrations anyone may perceive. this will be the only way to ensure a smoother transition into Resident Moderation. (of course, opinions, suggestions and even *gulp* postive reactions are welcome too. )Ps - i sort of like the idea of voting on who you feel has done the best and worst jobs. as long as it's not used maliciously and treated seriously that is. I believe you are asking me to give Res Moderation a chance. Yet some ppl on the already published list have no business standing in judgement of anyone. Keeping notes to pass on having some system in place is one step to making this new program better. If I beleived in this new peer to peer judgement system. I have seen no fairness to the community as a whole on these forums. I think what I have seen is anything but. Suddenly that will change because Res Mods are in charge. I'm sorry my goals are not nearly as lofty as yours. As for "and even *gulp* positive reactions are welcome too )" I'm sure they are, give me some positive news and I would be more than happy to. I and others have been judged by our peers in these forums and those peers have been vile, incencitive, rude, harassing, (insert favorite negative remark or cus word here). LL allows ppl to be belittled, insulted, chastized and torn to bits without batting an eye. Their actions are sometimes backroom plotting against a resident and other times so inconsitant it makes me want to throw up. Now they have put this plan to make these ppl and their close friends Res Mods. Yet I am suppose to *glup* be positive about this. How about when hell freezes over. Cat _____________________
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Eboni Khan
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01-27-2006 10:31
The ResMods were only active for a few hours yesterday before there was a problem with permissions. As such mod perms were removed from the ResMods. So, to be fair, I don't think there has been enough time to be making this evaluation Just like everything starting out new, there are going to be some errors. Hopefully, this will all work out and there will be more consistency here. MJ Forum Moderation has sucked for 2 years and with an increase in population has only became worse. Until it can even pretend to be enforced at a decent rate for more than 3 days at once, it is still on the decline. I have no comment on Res Mods because I have yet to see them in action in SL. On every other message board I have been on, when Poster Mods were introduced, it was a clusterfuck with most of them quiting and/or 1/2 the posters leaving in the first 2 weeks. |
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MJ Hathor
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01-27-2006 10:41
Forum Moderation has sucked for 2 years and with an increase in population has only became worse. Until it can even pretend to be enforced at a decent rate for more than 3 days at once, it is still on the decline. I have no comment on Res Mods because I have yet to see them in action in SL. On every other message board I have been on, when Poster Mods were introduced, it was a clusterfuck with most of them quiting and/or 1/2 the posters leaving in the first 2 weeks. Given the overwhelming support I've seen for the ResMods here, I can't possibly understand why anyone would quit or leave. ![]() I see it this way...the residents have been complaining about the forum inconsistency for the past couple years and now we have been given a chance to fix it. I'm willing to try even if it doesn't succeed. MJ _____________________
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Cocoanut Cookie
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01-27-2006 10:54
Well, I can't be real positive about it, considering I've already been treated to unvarnished, unsolicited, and lengthy opinions of my own character from one or more of those on the list. And so have others. We already know where some of these people are coming from vis-a-vis other residents, and it is not a good place.
So basically I'd better stdu if I want to survive. Or, conversely, maybe the position of resmod will make such individuals more cautious before unburdening themselves about other residents in such a manner, and more mindful about being fair. However, I'm still taking the stdu route, and I've been making some headway there. (It isn't easy for me! It would help if I could find something else I'm more interested in than SL.) As for the idea of voting off the resmods, I wouldn't like that at ALL. For one thing, we aren't necessarily going to get any idea of who is doing what. There would be no way of being fair about it, and anyway, it would be mean to do something like that to volunteers. I'm sure if someone does a wretched job in some obvious way, people will object sufficiently. "Resmods: Temptation Island," though, does sound pretty good. Isn't that the one where couples are forced to be tempted by others, and then see who stays faithful and who doesn't? As for the two-week rotation thing, it did sound to me more like there would be a regular rotation. That would be no good, if so. It reminds me of the "Concerned Residents" group, where officers were supposed to rotate every 3 weeks, then every couple of months, or something, so the whole time was taken up with deciding how to do the elections, presenting speeches, etc., then it was time to do it again! And that, in turn, reminded me of those clubs you make when you're a kid where you spend the entire club time deciding on who's going to be president, etc., and by the time everything is decided, everybody's tired of the club anyway, so you start another one, lol. coco _____________________
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Martin Magpie
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01-27-2006 10:57
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Cocoanut Cookie
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01-27-2006 11:00
P.S. Case in point - and not to pick on you specifically, MJ, but just to point out - if you are a resmod, and I just consulted the list and it appears you are, your first order of business should be to remove your forum signature, which has been sitting there a long time, quoting Anshe Chung. That is hardly a positive sort of thing, is it?
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Reitsuki Kojima
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01-27-2006 11:02
P.S. Case in point - and not to pick on you, MJ, but just to point out - if you are a resmod, and I just consulted the list and it appears you are, your first order of business should be to remove your forum signature, which has been sitting there a long time, quoting Anshe Chung. That is hardly a positive sort of thing, is it? Why? Did Anshe not make the joke? Is it libel? Is it a person attack? No, I don't think it's either... _____________________
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Cocoanut Cookie
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01-27-2006 11:02
I asked - Reitsuki - if it was a positive thing. Is it?
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Enabran Templar
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01-27-2006 11:04
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Reitsuki Kojima
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01-27-2006 11:04
Yes, paranoid rantings about tracking users by "IPS addresses" and slandering a website is kinda insane. I've always thought so, at any rate. _____________________
I am myself indifferent honest; but yet I could accuse me of such things that it were better my mother had not borne me: I am very proud, revengeful, ambitious, with more offenses at my beck than I have thoughts to put them in, imagination to give them shape, or time to act them in. What should such fellows as I do crawling between earth and heaven? We are arrant knaves, all; believe none of us.
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Reitsuki Kojima
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01-27-2006 11:05
I asked - Reitsuki - if it was a positive thing. Is it? Sure. I think it's a hillarious statement if taken as a joke. Humor brings light into the world. Is it a negative thing? _____________________
I am myself indifferent honest; but yet I could accuse me of such things that it were better my mother had not borne me: I am very proud, revengeful, ambitious, with more offenses at my beck than I have thoughts to put them in, imagination to give them shape, or time to act them in. What should such fellows as I do crawling between earth and heaven? We are arrant knaves, all; believe none of us.
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Cybin Monde
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01-27-2006 11:10
I believe you are asking me to give Res Moderation a chance. Yet some ppl on the already published list have no business standing in judgement of anyone. Keeping notes to pass on having some system in place is one step to making this new program better. If I beleived in this new peer to peer judgement system. I have seen no fairness to the community as a whole on these forums. I think what I have seen is anything but. Suddenly that will change because Res Mods are in charge. I'm sorry my goals are not nearly as lofty as yours. first of all, only the part about there being a ResMod forum for notes and rules was directed at you. i'm sorry i wasn't more clear about that.. i was only trying to answer a concern you had. secondly, we haven't had time to perform our duties to any length as of yet. we had our ResMod "powers" removed last night (after we were just getting into performing our new function) and haven't regained them as of yet, so we haven't seen a clear picture of what's to come and will likely take a few days before we see any real/critiquable results. As for "and even *gulp* positive reactions are welcome too )" I'm sure they are, give me some positive news and I would be more than happy to. this was meant in two ways. one was future tense, as was the rest of what i had said about the types of comments i would like to see in referrance to ResMod performances. and the other, was just trying to add some lightheartedness to my post. it was meant to be a bit silly. I and others have been judged by our peers in these forums and those peers have been vile, incencitive, rude, harassing, (insert favorite negative remark or cus word here). LL allows ppl to be belittled, insulted, chastized and torn to bits without batting an eye. Their actions are sometimes backroom plotting against a resident and other times so inconsitant it makes me want to throw up. Now they have put this plan to make these ppl and their close friends Res Mods. Yet I am suppose to *glup* be positive about this. How about when hell freezes over. Cat if you have no positive reactions, then so be it. that's what i'm interested in, is commentary from anyone and everyone's point of view/s. if that means you're seeing favoritism or some sort of abuse of ResMod powers, then by all means.. let us know. this won't work right unless we can all work together to iron out the details. as far as previous actions of any of the new ResMods, if it taints their performance, it will be fairly well visible and thusly can be acted upon as needed. however, from what i've seen in the ResMod forum (which, granted is not in full use by all ResMods as of yet), tghose who have posted are all highly concerned with doing a fair job and are concerned with making sure to not step on any toes or to overstep any boundaries, whether they be TOS/CS related or simply civil matters of etiquette. - i believe once this really gets rolling, we should see a positive experience unfold. i could end up being proved wrong, but i sincerely hope that i'm not. sure, i'm optimistic.. but that probably has a little something to do with the fact that i'm an optimist. personally, i will attempt to only do right by the community. if i ever get out of line, i implore everyone to let me know when, where and how i did so, so that i can correct it and have a more defined vision of where my steps should, or should not, fall. _____________________
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