I want to see the ResMods battle with Jeska. Like, move threads she moves back where they started, that kind of stuff.
Would be fun drama.
Would be fun drama.
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MJ Hathor
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01-26-2006 21:54
I noticed that too - the whole thing makes no sense. If they were going to move your thread, then all of them should be moved, honestly. That thread also in no way deserves to be stickied. Same here. As of right now the ResMod's don't have any moderation permissions. I'm not sure who sticked that thread and I'm not even sure we have a way of knowing. MJ _____________________
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Cocoanut Koala
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01-26-2006 22:42
Maybe it's an accident, due to the current work on the forums. Or maybe somebody was testing it, and it got stuck, and will be that way till the forum fixing is finished.
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Cybin Monde
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good point, coco
01-26-2006 22:51
the thread that was moved and the one that was stickied both happened shortly before ResMods lost our powers.. until sometime tomorrow.
there's a good chance that other threads were going to be moved, but no longer could be because of this.. and it's possible that the current stickied thread was done in response to when i stickied a different thread about the same general topic, which was shortly unstickied. this is very much a trial period and i'm betting we'll still see a fair amount of settling in in the coming week or two.. or more. bear with us.. we're all (ResMods, LL, etc.) learning as we go. these discussions are exactly what we need to help define the roles of ResMods and what consistencies should be adhered to within the forums. _____________________
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Gabe Lippmann
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01-26-2006 23:34
Consistency is an issue that has loomed for quite a while. I don't see the new res mods helping this. I could very easily be wrong.
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Frans Charming
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01-26-2006 23:52
I would urge the ResMods to start a thread about this issue in their own little ResMod forum and get comeup with a consistent gameplan. And maybe even urge Jeska to make Forum Policy forum, that could be a sub forum of general if needed.
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01-27-2006 00:47
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Kris Ritter
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01-27-2006 01:52
I don't really see how we can expect any consistency at all from now on... I totally didnt realise that for all this drama and pre and post resmod analysis that they only served a two week term! Two friggin weeks?! And then LL have to choose all over again? For one thing I wouldnt have thought the pool of potentials was that huge. And for another it seems like a helluva lot of work to choose and administer new resmods fortnightly. Especially if you're going to call them up randomly from non-volunteers to 'do their duty' and have half of them refuse.
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Martin Magpie
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01-27-2006 02:09
the thread that was moved and the one that was stickied both happened shortly before ResMods lost our powers.. until sometime tomorrow. there's a good chance that other threads were going to be moved, but no longer could be because of this.. and it's possible that the current stickied thread was done in response to when i stickied a different thread about the same general topic, which was shortly unstickied. this is very much a trial period and i'm betting we'll still see a fair amount of settling in in the coming week or two.. or more. bear with us.. we're all (ResMods, LL, etc.) learning as we go. these discussions are exactly what we need to help define the roles of ResMods and what consistencies should be adhered to within the forums. But it won't be your job in a week or two. It will be someone elses job. At which time they must also learn. Hopefully they will have a few notes to read from those who just went threw it. If not it's all rinse and repeat from here on out. This new Res Mod system is already flawed. _____________________
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01-27-2006 02:28
I think it's important to read between the lines on this one, amigo. I think Cocoanut's thread got noticed/acted upon because of its shrill tone. All the other threads on the subject were sardonic, bemused or amused, but Cocoanut's was pretty shrill. I think that consistency, while desirable, is also out of reach. So it helps to understand how to craft your message so as to stay out of the crosshairs.  Enabran, I think you need to lie down. _____________________
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Selador Cellardoor
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01-27-2006 02:32
Well, when you have a forum to talk about a topic, like Second Life, and instead you are talking about the forum itself, it becomes a meta-discussion. It's kind of a grey area - but for example, if you are part of a Tivo forum, talking about your Tivo would be on topic - talking about not liking the way the threads sort in the Tivo forum would be a meta-discussion. Basically, it's all semantics. I suppose we need a forum forum, as these forums are a part of the SL experience for a lot of people. I'm not arguing with you, but with the popular definition you quote. I would have said that it was not a meta-discussion but a recursive one. If the posting had been about forums in general it could have been considered a meta-discussion. But bravo for what you have said. It's one thing, so-called forum management being inconsistent; it's quite another when it appears to be one subject or one person that is being singled out. _____________________
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Pendari Lorentz
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01-27-2006 06:01
I totally didnt realise that for all this drama and pre and post resmod analysis that they only served a two week term! Actually, the ResMods have the possibility to serve longer than just 2 weeks. Potential Resident Moderators will be rotated into and out of the active pool of Resident Moderators on a bi-weekly basis. Depending upon their participation, they may be rotated back into the pool or removed altogether. If successful, this process will be automated in the future; with Residents being added and removed from the pool of moderators (similar to how Slashdot works - more info here: http://slashdot.org/faq/com-mod.shtml#cm600). If a Resident is added to a pool and does not participate, they will be removed from the potential list. Any disciplinary problems within the forum moderation community will be dealt with swiftly and any misuse of moderation abilities will result in a loss of volunteer status and disciplinary actions. Just to clarify. _____________________
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Kris Ritter
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01-27-2006 06:19
Just to clarify. Ooh. We could make a bi-weekly event out of a public poll on it. "Who has been the most sucky moderators? Vote out the two you dislike most!". And then we could have like a league table of which mods sucked the most! That'd be cool. _____________________
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01-27-2006 06:23
Please, please don't suggest Suvivor: ResMod
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01-27-2006 06:56
Consistency is an issue that has loomed for quite a while. I don't see the new res mods helping this. I could very easily be wrong. Or you could easily be %100 correct. I think our new resmods have an interesting task indeed - If one have them had moved Cocoa's thread, I'd bet we'd see a much longer post here (And not disagreeing with Cris or anyone else's thoughts here, I'm just saying that the res mods will much more easily fall target to accusations of favoritism, bias, or inconsistancy, and be in the spotlight even more…) _____________________
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01-27-2006 06:58
Ooh. We could make a bi-weekly event out of a public poll on it. "Who has been the most sucky moderators? Vote out the two you dislike most!". And then we could have like a league table of which mods sucked the most! That'd be cool. _____________________
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Cristiano Midnight
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01-27-2006 07:36
I don't really see how we can expect any consistency at all from now on... I totally didnt realise that for all this drama and pre and post resmod analysis that they only served a two week term! Two friggin weeks?! And then LL have to choose all over again? For one thing I wouldnt have thought the pool of potentials was that huge. And for another it seems like a helluva lot of work to choose and administer new resmods fortnightly. Especially if you're going to call them up randomly from non-volunteers to 'do their duty' and have half of them refuse. Plus of course we're going to be in a constant state of inconsistent moderation since everyone has (as is very evident already) different ideas of what is or isn't on or offtopic or an attack etc. Kris Ritter wins the internets for using the word "fortnightly". _____________________
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01-27-2006 07:40
Please, please don't suggest Suvivor: ResMod Temptation Island: ResMod would be kind of fun. _____________________
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MJ Hathor
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01-27-2006 08:08
Ooh. We could make a bi-weekly event out of a public poll on it. "Who has been the most sucky moderators? Vote out the two you dislike most!". And then we could have like a league table of which mods sucked the most! That'd be cool. I'm in trouble then _____________________
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01-27-2006 08:28
Welcome to Project ResMod, where each ResMod will design a new forum look. We will be the judges and whoever fails is OUT!
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Eboni Khan
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01-27-2006 08:35
I think that consistency, while desirable, is also out of reach. So it helps to understand how to craft your message so as to stay out of the crosshairs. My thread about bringing back Prokofy was closed but Lordfly's thread linking to Pokofy's Blog, I believe Hiro has made a thread adoing the same thing and all of the thinly veiled attacked threads and comments against Prokofy are allowed to live on. The moderation or shall I say the lack of it on these forums is a joke. Either rule with an ironfist or let it be a free for all. The 1/2 assedness (ha!) of the current moderation (which appears to be getting worse), leaves much to be desired, just like the rest of SL. |
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MJ Hathor
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01-27-2006 08:43
The 1/2 assedness (ha!) of the current moderation (which appears to be getting worse), leaves much to be desired, just like the rest of SL. The ResMods were only active for a few hours yesterday before there was a problem with permissions. As such mod perms were removed from the ResMods. So, to be fair, I don't think there has been enough time to be making this evaluation Just like everything starting out new, there are going to be some errors. Hopefully, this will all work out and there will be more consistency here. MJ _____________________
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01-27-2006 08:44
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Aimee Weber
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01-27-2006 08:44
My thread about bringing back Prokofy was closed but Lordfly's thread linking to Pokofy's Blog, I believe Hiro has made a thread adoing the same thing and all of the thinly veiled attacked threads and comments against Prokofy are allowed to live on. The moderation or shall I say the lack of it on these forums is a joke. Either rule with an ironfist or let it be a free for all. The 1/2 assedness (ha!) of the current moderation (which appears to be getting worse), leaves much to be desired, just like the rest of SL. My only comment ... I can tell you from first hand experience that many of the posts accused of being thinly veiled attacks against Prokofy are NOT. _____________________
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01-27-2006 08:56
I just want to say that that Cocoanut Koala is one terrific broad.
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