Overzealous Security and Rude Landowners

You are a sad person and I am adding you to my ignore and mute listings. I would rather stalk a garbage truck than you.
Just because the Air Force teaches you something does not make it true. The flight rules for civilians are very different from the military. Also learn to lighten up, you will ruin your health with all of your stress!



My congrats to your ex and you do not know what you are talking about! You do not know my job and you do not know me. *shanks head sadly* Good Luck in your USAF career because you are going to need it! Well goodbye Airman and once again Good luck!!!

No I will not insult myself Hooah! Well one down and one to go! The same as the above will apply to you. You need to lighten up and why the sign "just a stupid redneck" if you don't want feedback? Fort Rucker is in the heart of the southern countryside or what is often refered to as rednecks.
About cadets, making jokes about them where your superiors can hear you is not very smart. Never make jokes of cadets from the academy. They will never forgive you and that goes for the other services as well.
Goodbye and Good Luck to you!

See... now you're clarifying what you said earlier. If you'd mentioned such details in the first place, a lot of the back and forth between us could have been avoided.

Case in point, up until this post, the impression your posts were giving was that you were rather trigger-happy and orbitted griefers all the time...*cue the standard responses*

"only the inexperienced will be unable to leave the area before xx seconds have passed, so it's their fault"
"If you get snagged, it's your own fault"
"If you suffer lag, get a better computer"

Now that those are out of the way, I can reply seriously... as orbs are used as privacy/anti-griefing tools, users have 2 nasty problems to deal with.
1: Set the delay too low, and annoy the innocent passerby... Set it too high, and it's no longer an anti-griefing tool.
2: Have the range too low, and not have it covering the area you want it to cover... (been there... ended up with a fairly large chunk being unprotected. Not what you want from an anti-griefing tool) Have the range too high, and seriously annoy passerbys/violate ToS.

With those two in mind, it's pretty easy to understand how hard it can be getting it just right... and when you get people telling you that you need to increase the delay/reduce the protected area simply because some users have failed to solve those problems, it's also easy to see why orb users get very annoyed. (Case in point... Me being lumped in with griefers simply because I use an orb set to 30M radius with an 8 second delay up at 300M on a very fast, lag free sim...)

No I get the last word!

Is that cause you need to scrounge for food? lol And darlin', I don't think it's me who needs to lighten up, all you ever post are complaints.




My congrats on idiot of the day! I still have not said I have served. You STILL seem to think you know it all. This might be why you have a know it all attitude, you read partial information, THEN decide you know EVERYTHING. And please, shank your head again, that's hilarious. And know I don't know your job, but YOU said you love YOUR job defending our country, which obviously would make you military. So you are simply lying about everything darling. Trust me, life is much simpler when you can tell the truth! Then you don't get caught in lies and have to steep to insults when someone proves you wrong.

I do love how you like to reply without reading the full of what is said. Again, military pilots in planes (not helos of course, which is what you seem to imply you are into, or your husband or something or other, maybe it's a dog too, who knows?), they HAVE to learn civilian flight information too. In fact, a way you can do it WITHOUT being a cadet is to get certification from civilian classes and teachers, and logging flight hours with a civilian, THEN cross over. But of course, I am sure you knew that, being that you know everything (even though you don't know basic common military knowledge, nor seem to know military procedure).

Oh, btw, no comment on your VFR lowbie flying? You can't even fly at night or in clouds! lol Let alone give training. Called you out! Neener neener!

Another no comment on NOT knowing cadets can't be married?

In fact, no rebuttal whatsoever on anything I have proven you wrong in. Silence is more than golden in my argument. *blows kisses*

*greatly anticipates another hilarious posting from the oblivious patho*

That was actually a part I considered serving in. I love that kind of stuff. I totally understand where you can come into your own thoughts, many have. It just seemed the way you said it, that you gleaned that opinion from being Air Force.

I also agree, there are many other jobs that are quite as unrewarding as US military. One I hold high is anything in education. Especially the way some parents raise their children now, but ultimately, paying back student loans on a teacher's salary is impossible, since their overall pay is junk, even more so when you consider recent inflation in not only things like gas, but interest rates on student loans.

The pay is 'alright' I would say. Depending on the career field and prior stuff. Techs get junk compared to the rest of the civies. What he does, he can easily make more, but then again, no job offers full medical. Then again, you can't sue them if they screw up lol.

I don't think staying enlisted would have been a good thing for pay, but retiring as an officer, the benefits are defintely nice. Major catalyst for us to make that decision, especially considering we want a large family.

They don't?

I was under the impression that LL didn't take any action at all against security-orb griefers, but maybe I was mistaken. What's their stance on no-warning teleport-home orbs? Mistress and I got hit by one of those just the other day while we were out walking a sim (just for a change of pace and because She needed to sort some things out in Her head -- drama, you know). One moment we're walking along, the next, poof. Teleported.

I guess it's experiences like that that make me tense up when I see people defending these things. Maybe LL acts against such people when they're reported, but I've yet to see any evidence of it.

I dont think they do anything either. I dont know how many times have been hit by push attacks either by a security orb without warning or a griefer with a push weapon. Perhaps my Red Tarn makes a nice target for griefers.
As far as I know the Lindens never did a thing to the residents responsible.
Update 09:21pm *Would like to say I did not respond to their rude flames. I wonder if all USAF are so rude?*

as long as they have a reason to use it like griefers causing trouble, but i dont like the fact that ppl have objects for public use but their land defense systems kick all who are on it cept for thier group or whatever.

That means they aren't public use and you're mistaken.

I keep reading this thread's title as "rude lawnmowers".

This title is more appropriate.

Sorry, but when YOU are paying the RL $$$$ for his tier, THEN you can require free passage over his land. He may be rude and come off like a paranoid survivalist, but Jonas is paying the bills for his land if if he doesn't want anyone exploring over it, its his call.

Those USD he spends for it buy him that right to restrict others on his land, same as your USD spent give you the right to allow free and open access to your land.

Ah that old chestnut... didn't work last time someone tried to pull that card, and doesn't work this time either.

Let's say you've made a fantastic looking house in the middle of a beautiful garden. You have a security system so I can't get onto your land, but I can look from a distance and enjoy your creation.

Does that mean I should be paying to simply look at your land and its contents from a distance?

If you reply yes, then either you totally misunderstand why people create things, and the way SL works.

If you reply no, then what's the difference between looking at the content from ground level, or from above as you fly over?

A dislike of griefers coming on to your property, leaving crap (which can be autoreturned), harrassing you (which you'd actually need to be there to realise) or using push weapons is one thing.... which I would support. Lumping everyone in the same pot and ejecting them from your little plot of land with insufficient or no warning, for no reason, is the problem I am trying to address here - and so far nobody has actually provided a suitable answer as to why they feel the need to do that.

"Because I can" or "It's my land" is NOT justification.

Lewis

Sure it is.

No it's not.

Lewis

I'm sorry, this is getting hit on the head lessons. Arguments are next floor up.

Being RUDE seems to be the new fad. I suppose this goes along with the gangster rap that is so popular in the host country. Still say the only way to deal with rude landowners is to give them a taste of their own medicine and ban them in return! It is not out of spite but to correct their offensive actions and help them grow as people

Actually, it is justification - to the person making the justification. Just like harrasement, it is the individual that makes the determination, not everyone else around. No one else has to agree with the justification, but that doesn't make it any less valid.

Yes it is! Neener, neener, neeeeenerrrr!

Considering how you take every compromise people make and give nothing but a lot of whine, I'd say you should be expecting people to be rude to you...


It'd just be returning the favour...


Saying that you're banning someone and justifying it by saying "If I can't fly then you can't either" is just rude and spiteful...

Which is why I've not banned anyone.

Trying to make a point oh RUDE one. You want to have a secure lot but still be able to fly over others land. You have made no compromising and that includes your alts. Anyway I did not start this by banning peaceful residents using security orbs in the guise of protecting themselves. I call again for peaceful residents to close their airspace to no warning security orb and white list users. Just like them you need no reason to close your airspace to any resident! In RL a country that closes its airspace to anothers aircraft will have the same done to them. It is not quite the same but close enough for me.

That's usually a step or two before an official declaration of hostilities.

In SL terms, that's griefing from security system users getting griefed back from the people they are affecting.

Lewis