Why do you find rape entertaining?
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Tren Neva
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07-18-2006 18:45
From: Allana Dion Well no not especially if they have children. Someone who roleplays pedophilia would need to be watched if they have children. For the rest of society no matter what their personal kink is, their sexuality has absolutely nothing to do with their parenting.
And the signature.... I think a joke is supposed to be humorous. I guess it is to you and I'm missing something, sorry.
And no please don't point me to any sites...nooooo ty I dont want to know. *covers eyes* I have to disagree with ya on parents with pedophile kinks being the only type that needs to be watched. There are so many fetishes out there that relate to small children or people taking fetishes to a new level and relating them to children in a very very negative way. Having a diaper fetish is one thing; suggesting that you will stick a billards ball up a kids butt as punishment for going the bathroom is another. As for the sites, yeah, that's really for the best.
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Artemis Fate
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07-18-2006 18:53
From: Allana Dion Well for one thing people's sexual fantasies and roleplay (most of the time) are a private thing and not usually on public display. Someone hanging a picture of Hitler up in their own living room on their own private land is not likely to get as harsh a response from LL or anyone else as someone who blows up that same picture and puts it on the side of a building for all to see. Just guessing here, but most likely LL is responding to a fear of being judged guilty by association. Personally I'm not about to befriend someone who thinks Hitler was a cool guy, but I won't refuse him his right to think so either. Then I also wont refuse another person's right to speak out against it either.
Well, the concentration camp in SL as I referenced was on private land. And I would disagree with people's fantasies being a private thing. It's not a rare event to go to a popular store and see a gorean slave naked and on her knees covered in whip marks obeying the will of her master. Or see some girl with a pony's harness in her mouth and a saddle being led around on a chain in full PVC gear. I even saw one gorean master roleplay beat his slave in a sim that was not gorean. As it stands, I'm introduced and exposed to most of this stuff entirely by happenstance. I'd also reference to the Nazi group in Second Life, that was made and had something like 8 members, it was clearly not intended to be a griefing group and was made of those who followed national socialism, the charter didn't even say anything hateful. I think that one lasted a week before the lindens forcibly disbanded it. I don't know what happened to the members and officers since I don't remember their names but there's a chance they got banned. Of course I digress from the point, LL is allowed to refuse service to anyone they want.
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Baba Yamamoto
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07-18-2006 18:55
I can't be happy unless I'm victimizing someone
I'm more into mind torture...
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Angel Coral
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07-18-2006 19:37
From: Karsten Rutledge I suppose it's fairly easy to see how it draws one half of that crowd, there's always someone who needs some power jollies, but what about the 'victims'? Who gets off on being a rape victim and why? I can almost understand the 'appeal' of the slave mentality of the Goreans or just about whatever else, but rape? Yeah, you lost me on that one.
Karsten, I actually debated wether or not to reply to this question seriously as I was not entirely appreciative of the judgemental word choices you used throughout your initial post. I decided to reply anyway with an explanation, though certainly only an explanation from one person's perspective. When roleplaying a fantasy rape scenario, both parties are doing so in a completely safe environment. It allows the victim to enjoy a certain form of sex that she or he may not feel able to enjoy without the idea of force. Some simply find great enjoyment from extreme forms of bondage and rough sex, as well as other forms of alternative sexual preferences such as knife play, humiliation, masochism, breath control and psychological torture. When the victim does not know entirely what the "rapist" is going to do, it adds to the anticipation and excitement. By my word choice you can see it is not truly a rape reenactment for the victim but fantasy sexual roleplaying. It is not in my mind trivializing the RL act of rape which is more to do with violence and violation than sexual enjoyment. Rough sex and all that it implies via a roleplayed dark intense rape is for some submissives and vanillas (non-BDSMers) a way to enjoy themselves when societal pressures say they should not. Others don't give two figs for what other people think, and roleplay rape fantasies because it provides a huge adrenaline rush, makes their heart beat faster, arouses them greatly and excites the senses. But then again, not all are cut from the same leather. angel
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Allana Dion
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07-18-2006 19:59
From: Angel Coral Karsten, I actually debated wether or not to reply to this question seriously as I was not entirely appreciative of the judgemental word choices you used throughout your initial post. I decided to reply anyway with an explanation, though certainly only an explanation from one person's perspective. When roleplaying a fantasy rape scenario, both parties are doing so in a completely safe environment. It allows the victim to enjoy a certain form of sex that she or he may not feel able to enjoy without the idea of force. Some simply find great enjoyment from extreme forms of bondage and rough sex, as well as other forms of alternative sexual preferences such as knife play, humiliation, masochism, breath control and psychological torture. When the victim does not know entirely what the "rapist" is going to do, it adds to the anticipation and excitement. By my word choice you can see it is not truly a rape reenactment for the victim but fantasy sexual roleplaying. It is not in my mind trivializing the RL act of rape which is more to do with violence and violation than sexual enjoyment. Rough sex and all that it implies via a roleplayed dark intense rape is for some submissives and vanillas (non-BDSMers) a way to enjoy themselves when societal pressures say they should not. Others don't give two figs for what other people think, and roleplay rape fantasies because it provides a huge adrenaline rush, makes their heart beat faster, arouses them greatly and excites the senses. But then again, not all are cut from the same leather. angel Now come on angel, you know better than to explain things in such a clear, logical, informative manner. This is a forum for cryin out loud. 
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Angel Coral
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07-18-2006 20:22
From: Allana Dion Now come on angel, you know better than to explain things in such a clear, logical, informative manner. This is a forum for cryin out loud.  ROFL.. alright. You got me there! Is this better? 
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Allana Dion
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07-18-2006 21:38
From: Angel Coral ROFL.. alright. You got me there! Is this better?  There ya go 
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Susie Boffin
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07-18-2006 21:57
Hi Karsten. It really doesn't matter if you find rape entertaining or not. SL is an adult platform that allows for all sorts of adult expression no matter how repulsive it may be to others. I don't know how else to say this but if someone sees things they don't like in SL then they should not look.
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Nolan Nash
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07-18-2006 21:59
From: Karsten Rutledge Yeah, as Sio said earlier, if it's consensual roleplay it's not really rape. I somehow doubt they'd enjoy the actual experience so much. Much the same as roleplaying the assassin game in SL, and the like, are not really killing, but they still refer to it as killing.
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Phedre Aquitaine
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07-18-2006 23:26
From: Sensual Casanova My question is.. what happens if a "roleplaying" "rape victim" RELLY get raped? Are they turned on? Do they enjoy it? hmmm... No. They don't. It's the same violation it would be for you or me.
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Grim Misfit
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07-19-2006 17:13
From: Vivianne Draper Grim babies no? I dont know why ::Grim Babies:: are even mentioned in this post, as far as I know you couldn't rape a ::Grim Babie:: anymore then you could a shoe, purse, or wooden box. If my babies are out there raping people, please report this to me, and I will look into the scripts. Grim
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