Why do you find rape entertaining?

READ. I quoted SENSUAL. Who asked if they liked it IRL.

YOU, as I said in my post, were condescending and belittling and wrapped it up like you were really interested in it. You aren't. You just want to make people who have those fantasies look like sickos. As is evident from your statement below: "We're talking about what, in reality, amounts to probably the most vile violation of your self that can occur." Way to make someone who has that sort of fantasy come forward to answer your question.

However, I maintain if you were/are REALLY interested, and I honestly don't think you are, you would go out on the net and find actual information about this. Here you are asking a bunch of gamers about this subject like they would know. If you were really interested in the answer, you'd go find it from a more authoritative source. But you didn't do that. You asked a bunch of gamers. Hence, I surmise you are not actually wanting the answer but are just wanting to point out how deviant you belive some folks to be.

But maybe some of us find that sexy! Loss of limb while attempting molestation.

Google it. I bet someone is into it.

And yes, the hair too.

To paraphrase some comedian, I can't remember who, no matter what twisted fantasy you have sitting in the darkest places of your mind... there is an entire magazine dedicated to exactly that thing. And your dark secret that you would never tell even to those closest to you, it is so sick and wrong.... is someone's boring work-a-day job.

Of course, with the internets, we all know this now!

I read an funny account of a woman who was turned on by... sneezing. To the point of hoping she would get a cold. Decided to google it to see if she was the lone freak and instead found entire groups dedicated to this. And her future mate, with whom she was obviously sexually compatible. And they lived happily ever after.

(pulling my hair if I like it, sexually, is one thing, someone else pulling it, dies, I'm afraid.)

True enough, I suppose it bothers me more than it should because I have friends who have actually been raped.

L... ctrl-Q is the ultimate safe-word....

But let a gal or a guy say they have a rape fantasy or a fur fantasy or a bdsm fantasy or any fantasy related to something sexual and people are all over that like its bad, wrong, weird, or somehow different than the above. It is not. And then they use that as an excuse to ridicule. From the OPs first post which is condescending and belittling but wrapped up in nice little language like he's really interested in an answer to the below quote which wonders if they'd like it irl. You know danged well they don't want it IRL. And the OP could have gone on the net and found MYRIAD information from better sources than a bunch of blasted gamers on rape and other sexual fantasies.

Jeepers, you can't even comprehend your own writing.

...your dark secret that you would never tell even to those closest to you, it is so sick and wrong.... is someone's boring work-a-day job.

I comprehend it fine. You do too. Taking half a sentence out of the context of the paragraph and then calling my grammar into question is a poor tactic and in your case, poorly done. Here's the quote in context and the complete sentence. I'll admit the grammar could have been a bit better but then again I didn't realize the grammar police were here. I'd go back and proof your work for grammar but frankly you aren't that interesting.

NO. Absolutely not. Because you know, FANTASY is just that -- FANTASY!


Fantasy is all nice and clean and not all that horrifying and done by good lookin guys and gals that won't really hurt you etc etc etc.

Real rape is a long ways way from that. There's a fair distance between reality and

fantasy. Guess that's why its called fantasy, huh?

Sorry but that question always torques me. You know what reality is. You know what fantasy is. You probably have a few extreme fantasies of your own. Everyone does. You probably don't want to act on them either.

When two medieval roleplayers or SCA'ers put on plate and go jousting, do you suppose they really want to be impaled on a large metal spike? Or do you say its 'make believe'? When people in SL put on pirate costumes and pretend to be pirates, do you ask them if they really want to go robbing and pillaging on the high seas or do you just automatically accept that its roleplaying? Fact is, all kinds of roleplaying and fantasy happen around us every day -- in movies, in amusement parks, in ren faires, on tv, in books -- that's what fiction is: fantasy. And never once do you question it. Never once do you say "well if it really happened would you like it?" You know the answer to this question already.

But let a gal or a guy say they have a rape fantasy or a fur fantasy or a bdsm fantasy or any fantasy related to something sexual and people are all over that like its bad, wrong, weird, or somehow different than the above. It is not. And then they use that as an excuse to ridicule. From the OPs first post which is condescending and belittling but wrapped up in nice little language like he's really interested in an answer to the below quote which wonders if they'd like it irl. You know danged well they don't want it IRL. And the OP could have gone on the net and found MYRIAD information from better sources than a bunch of blasted gamers on rape and other sexual fantasies.

This thread should be locked before the lot of you take even more pot shots.

Now, as to who enjoys it? Many do, men and women alike. Read Nancy Friday's "My Secret Garden." Women fantasize about all manner of things. It's an eye-opener.

See, I've always wanted to expound on this idea and pair up bizarre fetishes with those boring work-a-day jobs. Imagine the possibilities! You could have shoe salesmen who truly *love* their work.

The scope of the discussion isn't really limited to SecondLife, if you'd bother reading the thread before replying.

OP: It's a fairly common fantasy. Actually, I have it a little myself. Shock you?

By the way, do you think you could have asked a little more inappropriately? I don't think I feel quite insulted enough yet.

Come now people... there are some strong opinions here, as there should be, but Vivianne and Karsten, please, don't get the thread locked. This has been the most civil discussion of the topic I've seen in ages... Let's try to keep it that way before a resmod forces it.

I read an funny account of a woman who was turned on by... sneezing. To the point of hoping she would get a cold. Decided to google it to see if she was the lone freak and instead found entire groups dedicated to this. And her future mate, with whom she was obviously sexually compatible. And they lived happily ever after.

Even outside of SL, what I said applies. As long as nobody is breaking the law and the participants are willing then -- What's the beef? Hey, it occasionally results in really amusing stories that EMTs get to swap around. "Can you believe what I found up this guy's ass? Haha!"

And, as for the thread, it's mostly a rehash of a bunch of prior threads for a short while ago. With "ageplay" replaced with "rape".

Even the AK47 comparison stands. I know people who almost literally get off on guns, they love them so much. Some of the brutal weaponry in the world, that has enabled governments to enact mass slaughter, and they gush over them.

So what's up with them?

Are you implying that by merely thinking about rape (or guns, or ageplay...) that people are effectively committing that crime?

As for WHY people get off on it -- Who knows. I suspect it's power, as has already been mentioned. Some people do not feel in control of themselves unless someone else assumes that control. I view religion the same way; It's giving over your own internal moral system to some invisible critter in the sky and a bunch of dusty books. A way to absolve your own responsibilities...

Of course, those seem to give up control can be some of the most bossy, demanding people I have ever seen. It's all very passive-aggressive.

Sio I'm not the only person here who thinks he was inappropriate in his OP. There are at least 2 others who agree.

When I've fantasized about being raped, it's more of an issue of thinking about someone wanting me so much that they won't take no for an answer.

I never even remotely suggested that fantasizing about rape was a crime, at all. Thanks, though.

The last time we had a discussion about some controversal form of sexual roleplay, some skeletons accidently fell out of the closet and that was it for all logical discourse.

People talk about sneezing after orgasming. I suppose there must be some link, then.