Why do you find rape entertaining?

Well, fortunately in SL, that's not possible. I'd hate to consider the possibility in RL though.

Nah, I stop at hyperactive gerbils on mountain dew and red bull and lubricated with cyanoacrylate.

Now I worry if someone will take that last statement seriously.

Yes but even irl People roleplay rape and such.. its not just in Sl. so my question still stands, are those people just as turned on if it were to really happen to them?

I think the closest thing to a romance novel I've read was a book called Reap the Wind, I picked it up at a garage sale when I was stuck in the middle of nowhere and desperately needed something to read. There was only a couple sex 'scenes' in it in which the author labored on, and I found myself going 'Okay, okay, I get it already, they've been having sex, for 2 pages, CAN WE GET ON WITH THE EFFIN' PLOT ALREADY?' I must be weird. I guess that's what distinguishes a romance novel from a regular one. I've read plenty of books that had lots of sex (<3 Mysts of Avalon) but they're usually like '...and then they had SEX. Meanwhile...' instead of telling us about each individual drop of sweat that they were forming. Not that I have anything against sex, but it's really not that interesting to read about.

I've also heard similarly bizarre 'coping' methods from people who've claimed to have been assaulted.

I *think* the difference is that you have some kind of "safe" word, or so CSI showed me

Also, if you are roleplaying you usually set rules BEFOREHAND, it (usually) is with someone you respect and want to do it with, and that you can trust... For real... it doesn't work that way

Yeah, as Sio said earlier, if it's consensual roleplay it's not really rape. I somehow doubt they'd enjoy the actual experience so much.

Well I doubt it very much, since one is a fantasy in which you have complete control over what happens, who does this with you and when it will stop and the other is a real life crime against your will.

Someone can enjoy killing things or even other players in any game and be incapable of swatting a fly in rl.

I'd hope not.. anyways nappy time

Sweet dreams.

So Very true and I dont find anything wrong with these type of fantasies I was just curious... I like my hubby to pull me by my hair when we have sex and slap my ass, but that doesnt mean I get turned on everytime some perv slaps my ass or some biiiatch tries to pull my hair

Thanks *logs out*

Had a thought. The thrill from a rape fantasy might be related to the thrill from a roller coaster or twisting water slide. In all cases one makes a choice of beginning it but once it starts you surrender all control. In all cases the experience has a definite end.

Anyone who slaps my ass without understood permission loses a hand!

(I won't even go into the hair.)

Interesting analogy. I suppose my biggest gripe about it is that it's trivializing something that's very real and very very ugly.

NO. Absolutely not. Because you know, FANTASY is just that -- FANTASY!


Fantasy is all nice and clean and not all that horrifying and done by good lookin guys and gals that won't really hurt you etc etc etc.

Real rape is a long ways way from that. There's a fair distance between reality and fantasy. Guess that's why its called fantasy, huh?

Sorry but that question always torques me. You know what reality is. You know what fantasy is. You probably have a few extreme fantasies of your own. Everyone does. You probably don't want to act on them either.

When two medieval roleplayers or SCA'ers put on plate and go jousting, do you suppose they really want to be impaled on a large metal spike? Or do you say its 'make believe'? When people in SL put on pirate costumes and pretend to be pirates, do you ask them if they really want to go robbing and pillaging on the high seas or do you just automatically accept that its roleplaying? Fact is, all kinds of roleplaying and fantasy happen around us every day -- in movies, in amusement parks, in ren faires, on tv, in books -- that's what fiction is: fantasy. And never once do you question it. Never once do you say "well if it really happened would you like it?" You know the answer to this question already.

But let a gal or a guy say they have a rape fantasy or a fur fantasy or a bdsm fantasy or any fantasy related to something sexual and people are all over that like its bad, wrong, weird, or somehow different than the above. It is not. And then they use that as an excuse to ridicule. From the OPs first post which is condescending and belittling but wrapped up in nice little language like he's really interested in an answer to the below quote which wonders if they'd like it irl. You know danged well they don't want it IRL. And the OP could have gone on the net and found MYRIAD information from better sources than a bunch of blasted gamers on rape and other sexual fantasies.

This thread should be locked before the lot of you take even more pot shots.

But you can say the same about any violent computer game, Karsten. Nothing more ugly than mass murder and that is what the games are about, really, slaughtering everything you see. Often with a lot of bloody, gory effects thrown in for good measure.

I think our society accepts violence much more easily than it does sex, though, especially sex that isn't considered "normal", even in fantasy. And this one in particular will always push buttons, which is understandable, really. This has been and continues to be a serious real life issue for women.

I had an experience my first week of play where someone wanted that sort of play but without my consent, even in SL it was more that a little disconcerning. the demand, me using mute, trying to get to the shop I was going to anyway, being shoved around by the other Avatar, and then when I told him I had muted him, he orbited me. Finally I teleported back to a welcome area but it wasnt a great intoduction to second life.

Fantasy is fine, make sure both parties want to play....

So does making an AK47 and selling it on SL.

That entire argument is moot because SL is not real. No babies, children, women, men, hamsters, furries, Goreans, or landswoopers were actually harmed in the course of play. You can't even argue psychological damage in that we always have a choice to log off or TP elsewhere.

Griefing in SL is probably the only thing I could even VAGUELY correlate to something akin to RL rape -- Someone swings by, starts slinging poop or shooting you with an orbiter. THAT you can't easily control. Even so, that's a REAL stretch. I wouldn't go so far as equate being blown up with C4 as being RL raped. The damage isn't permenant. I get a Help Staffer involved or go elsewhere for a bit. Or, again, just get off SL.

The rest of rape/ageplay/setting each other on fire in SL? People are just roleplaying/fantasizing.

Actually my original question had nothing to do with whether they'd like it in real life, I asked why they get off on fantasizing about it. Please to be reading before you get up on your high horse, kthx.

Incidentally, before you showed up it was a civil and fairly light-hearted conversation. The exit is thataway <----, kthxagain.

Comparing it to roleplaying pirates or sports (jousting) is just ridiculous. We're talking about what, in reality, amounts to probably the most vile violation of your self that can occur. And yes, I really am interested in an answer. My original post made it clear that I personally don't find it entertaining, but I never said people who did were sick or losers or deranged or whatever else. I said I don't get it. Seems fairly simple enough. Now, I'm sure there's at least a dozen other threads that could use some of your bile.

The scope of the discussion isn't really limited to SecondLife, if you'd bother reading the thread before replying.

But maybe some of us find that sexy! Loss of limb while attempting molestation.

Google it. I bet someone is into it.

And yes, the hair too.

What happened to you was rotten, Alice, and pure griefing of the worst kind. Assholes.

READ. I quoted SENSUAL. Who asked if they liked it IRL.

YOU, as I said in my post, were condescending and belittling and wrapped it up like you were really interested in it. You aren't. You just want to make people who have those fantasies look like sickos. As is evident from your statement below: "We're talking about what, in reality, amounts to probably the most vile violation of your self that can occur." Way to make someone who has that sort of fantasy come forward to answer your question.

However, I maintain if you were/are REALLY interested, and I honestly don't think you are, you would go out on the net and find actual information about this. Here you are asking a bunch of gamers about this subject like they would know. If you were really interested in the answer, you'd go find it from a more authoritative source. But you didn't do that. You asked a bunch of gamers. Hence, I surmise you are not actually wanting the answer but are just wanting to point out how deviant you belive some folks to be.

True enough, I suppose it bothers me more than it should because I have friends who have actually been raped.

Jeepers, you can't even comprehend your own writing.