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OliveEue Sholokhov
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08-21-2006 13:45
I Am Very Very Angry! I Was The Owner Of Clown Town Usa. We Had Put Land Up To Sell To Buy An Island. Today One Of My Officers Was Enlarging The Land And Before She Could Set The Land And Up The Price (within 30 Seconds) W. H. Swooped Down And Bought The Land. My Officer Let Me Know What Had Happened And That She Tried To Tell Him What Had Happened And He Said "thanks For The Land" And Ejected Her. I Immediatly Called Live Help And They Said This Has Been An Ongoing Problem And They Are Going To Be Considering It Fraud. Of Course They Haven't Yet. I Then Went Back And Told The Guy What Had Happened And He Accused Me That I Was Harrassing Him. So I Muted Him. I Did File An Abuse Report And Also Called Linden Labs And Michael Linden Was Such A Joy To Talk To (not) And Was Very Unconcerned That This Had Happened And Obviously Didnt Give A Crap. I Told Him I Wanted To Talk To His Supervisor And He Advised Me That It Was Daniel And That Daniel Would Call Me Back. Well Daniel Has Not Called Me Back And Here We Go Again....seems Like The Peeps In The Game That Are Trying To Do All The Right Things Get Screwed And The Ones That Continue Screwing Are Just Allowed To Keep On Going! I Am So Disgusted With Second Life Right Now That I Am Quitting The Game. So On The 15th Of August I Paid My 195.00 Tier And Also Lost An Additional 50.00 Today And That Is Fine With Linden Labs....
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Annah Zamboni
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08-21-2006 13:46
Ouch!
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Lewis Nerd
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08-21-2006 13:49
Although the capitalisation made it difficult to read, I understand the problem.
We're told new land tools are coming this week I believe that are meant to stop lowlife parasitical scum land swoopers from getting such an easy ride in such matters. You should remove the name of the culprit though, they don't like things like that round here - although the name is well known for such behaviour. Lewis _____________________
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Beau Perkins
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08-21-2006 13:50
No Offense But When You Type Like This It Make Following Your Post Difficult.
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Jack Harker
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08-21-2006 13:50
I Am Very Very Angry! I Was The Owner Of Clown Town Usa. We Had Put Land Up To Sell To Buy An Island. Today One Of My Officers Was Enlarging The Land And Before She Could Set The Land And Up The Price (within 30 Seconds) Wrestling Hulka Swooped Down And Bought The Land. My Officer Let Me Know What Had Happened And That She Tried To Tell Him What Had Happened And He Said "thanks For The Land" And Ejected Her. I Immediatly Called Live Help And They Said This Has Been An Ongoing Problem And They Are Going To Be Considering It Fraud. Of Course They Haven't Yet. I Then Went Back And Told The Guy What Had Happened And He Accused Me That I Was Harrassing Him. So I Muted Him. I Did File An Abuse Report And Also Called Linden Labs And Michael Linden Was Such A Joy To Talk To (not) And Was Very Unconcerned That This Had Happened And Obviously Didnt Give A Crap. I Told Him I Wanted To Talk To His Supervisor And He Advised Me That It Was Daniel And That Daniel Would Call Me Back. Well Daniel Has Not Called Me Back And Here We Go Again....seems Like The Peeps In The Game That Are Trying To Do All The Right Things Get Screwed And The Ones That Continue Screwing Are Just Allowed To Keep On Going! I Am So Disgusted With Second Life Right Now That I Am Quitting The Game. So On The 15th Of August I Paid My 195.00 Tier And Also Lost An Additional 50.00 Today And That Is Fine With Linden Labs.... They've said they're updating the tools for land sales come wensday. That should take care of the scumbag land swoopers. I'm very sorry that this happened to you, keep pushing at LL, and keep complaining. Not that it is likely to do any good, but LL *deserves* to take some heat on this. |
Jack Harker
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08-21-2006 13:52
Although the capitalisation made it difficult to read, I understand the problem. We're told new land tools are coming this week I believe that are meant to stop lowlife parasitical scum land swoopers from getting such an easy ride in such matters. You should remove the name of the culprit though, they don't like things like that round here - although the name is well known for such behaviour. Lewis It and the other land swoopers whos names I've gleaned from the various land swooping threads are already banned from my own land. Just doing my bit to make live just a touch more inconvinent for the scumbags. |
Cindy Claveau
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08-21-2006 14:00
We have to protect the names of the guilty here, so this thread will probably be locked. But I think if you'll check the guy's group you'll see that this is normal operating procedure for them.
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Lewis Nerd
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08-21-2006 14:03
It and the other land swoopers whos names I've gleaned from the various land swooping threads are already banned from my own land. Just doing my bit to make live just a touch more inconvinent for the scumbags. Before I do anything with my land, I make sure I set the price as L$999999999 to stop any unrequired sales happening, and when I sold a parcel to a neighbour recently I made sure her name was set as sale to BEFORE I pressed the button. It's clumsy, and you shouldn't have to cover your arse in so many ways, but unfortunately there are people out there whose only aim is to capitalise on the misfortune of others. Lewis _____________________
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Ordinal Malaprop
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08-21-2006 14:21
We have to protect the names of the guilty here, so this thread will probably be locked. But I think if you'll check the guy's group you'll see that this is normal operating procedure for them. Yeah, *that* name's never come up before anywhere.... |
Kyrah Abattoir
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08-21-2006 14:22
Wrestling hulka has been added to the kdc ban list : http://kdc.ethernia.net/sys/ban_list.php
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Lorelei Patel
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08-21-2006 14:26
IBTL again! And *sigh*
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Vares Solvang
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08-21-2006 14:31
Why are you mad at Linden Labs and not the "officer" that sold your land for next to nothing? They are the one to be angry at.
Before the land goes up for sale there is a pop up box that asks you if you really want to sell that land for that price. They are the one that clicked yes, so it's their fault, not LL. Moral of the story: Don't let other people have control of your land. _____________________
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Wrom Morrison
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08-21-2006 14:45
How are they swooping land so fast? Do they have high altitude land checkers in all sims or something?
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Ordinal Malaprop
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08-21-2006 14:47
How are they swooping land so fast? Do they have high altitude land checkers in all sims or something? It's easy. You just sit on the Find, set to "For Sale" and price <= <something small> and keep clicking "search". |
Vares Solvang
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08-21-2006 14:48
It's easy. You just sit on the Find, set to "For Sale" and price <= <something small> and keep clicking "search". And then when they see one, they tp there and buy it instantly. _____________________
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Finning Widget
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08-21-2006 14:49
How are they swooping land so fast? Do they have high altitude land checkers in all sims or something? There's a global search function. |
Ordinal Malaprop
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08-21-2006 14:50
Yup. You know, if anyone's ever stuck for something to do, they could do the same, but when they TP to a location, buy the land and sell it back, with a warning to be careful next time.
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Finning Widget
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08-21-2006 14:52
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Wrom Morrison
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08-21-2006 14:55
It's easy. You just sit on the Find, set to "For Sale" and price <= <something small> and keep clicking "search". Maybe a flood control should be put into that. _____________________
Content creators, please check this feature proposal. The aim of this proposal is to end re-sale rip-offs. (Also benefits freebie makers).
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Vares Solvang
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08-21-2006 14:56
Yup. You know, if anyone's ever stuck for something to do, they could do the same, but when they TP to a location, buy the land and sell it back, with a warning to be careful next time. Or if you really want to have fun with this you could do this: Set a chunk of land for sale @ 1 linden. Then quickly get it ready to sell at a price that works out to 15 linden a square meter, but don't confirm it yet. You then just sit and wait. As soon as you seen someone tp in, click ok and set the price to the 15/meter one. The swooper might be in such a hurry to snag the land they they buy it so fast they don't look at the price. So you then get the really big price and you can stand there and laugh at them as they beg you to give their money back. ![]() _____________________
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08-21-2006 14:57
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Jonas Pierterson
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08-21-2006 15:07
Of course, these 'swoopers' can't steal land if people pay attention. Education and vigilance are whats needed to change.
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Marianne McCann
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08-21-2006 15:15
That's terrible, Olive! I'm sorry to hear it, and I'll miss your area.
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Takuan Daikon
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08-21-2006 15:26
Or if you really want to have fun with this you could do this: Set a chunk of land for sale @ 1 linden. Then quickly get it ready to sell at a price that works out to 15 linden a square meter, but don't confirm it yet. You then just sit and wait. As soon as you seen someone tp in, click ok and set the price to the 15/meter one. The swooper might be in such a hurry to snag the land they they buy it so fast they don't look at the price. So you then get the really big price and you can stand there and laugh at them as they beg you to give their money back. ![]() That is SOOO dangerous. Don't do that unless you are willing to lose the land if you aren't quick enough! It might be fun if it works, and you'll be pissed if it doesn't. [Edit] Besides, you can set it for less than $4/m and get the same quick interest, I think. That way if you have kids that distract you for a split sec or something you are not in quite as bad of shape. |
Cannae Brentano
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08-21-2006 15:27
Of course, these 'swoopers' can't steal land if people pay attention. Education and vigilance are whats needed to change. That's all fine and dandy except the people making the mistakes are those who sell land only occasionally or even for the first time. They are being taken advantage of by people who buy and sell land numerous times on a daily basis. Under the current system, which fortunatly, appears to be changing, they have approximatly three to five seconds to figure out they made a mistake and correct it before losing their land. |