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Jonas Pierterson
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04-16-2006 08:18
someone who molests a 15 yeard old is a child molestor and a pedophile

yes, I have been entirely accurate
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04-16-2006 08:24
From: Jonas Pierterson
someone who molests a 15 yeard old is a child molestor and a pedophile

yes, I have been entirely accurate


Child - A person between birth and puberty
Pedophile - An adult who is sexually attracted to a child or children.
15 years old occurs during puberty not before puberty.

Pedophiles are specifically interested in pre-pubescent children. Thats part of the official diagnosis. a 15 year old is neither a child, they're a teenager, or pre-pubescent. You're now wrong on two accounts. Regardless of how the media wants to sensationalize words to draw attention to a story or get ratings, thats what those are. Good luck being accurate and not being a sheep, you're doing an awesome job.
Jonas Pierterson
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04-16-2006 08:25
I see pedophile as anything under legal age. That really shouldn't be a problem. Keep shining that idiot armor thoguh..youre doing a great job.
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04-16-2006 08:35
From: Jonas Pierterson
I see pedophile as anything under legal age. That really shouldn't be a problem. Keep shining that idiot armor thoguh..youre doing a great job.

Idiot armour?
You're the one claiming to know better than say psychiatrists. You just make up definitions to suit whatever opinion you want to flaunt at the time. This is just more proof that really have no basis for what you're saying other than your own deluded mind. I think when it comes to defining something like pedophilia I'll take the experts opinion over you. But you keep on thinking you know better... someone's wearing the idiot armor all right.
Geepa Lazarno
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04-16-2006 08:39
This has turned into a silly children's fight over trivial technicalities and fine meaningless distinctions, almost like a game of "I'm Not Touching You" played out in the back of a car during a large road trip.
Jonas Pierterson
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04-16-2006 08:41
Its ok, Im ignoring the troll now Ginsar :)

I made valid statements and acted with tolerance that others sadly lack.
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04-16-2006 08:43
From: Jonas Pierterson
Its ok, Im ignoring the troll now Ginsar :)

I made valid statements and acted with tolerance that others sadly lack.

Troll? I was just thinking the same of you. Anyone who claims to have a better definition then psychiatrists and then would try to use that to justify their position is clearly trolling.
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04-16-2006 10:21
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I have a problem with ANY group that tries to impose its views/attitudes/beliefs onto me, or gets upset when even the TINIEST negative thing is said about them. These groups include, but are in no way limited to, gays, blacks (any ethnic group), women (or men), children, teens, goths/mods, punks, ravers, gangsters (and their wanna-be counterparts--usually one in the same) and, of course, furries.



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Lucifer Baphomet
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04-16-2006 13:24
From: Kim Anubis


Maybe its time to ban smurfs, now its apparent theyre a manifestation of Nazi Iconography, and therefore are against the ToS and CS.
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04-16-2006 13:31
Clearly the smurfs have to go.
Musuko Massiel
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04-16-2006 14:10
"I see pedophile as anything under legal age. That really shouldn't be a problem."

The legal age for sex in Britain is 16.
In Canada it's 14.
In Korea it's 13.
In Mexico it's 12.
And so on.

Source: http://www.ageofconsent.com/ageofconsent.htm

Having sex with someone underage is generally considered to be "statutory rape". Attraction to prepubescent children is paedophilia.

Musuko.
Jonas Pierterson
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04-16-2006 17:21
Musuko, a 30 year old man attracters ro a 16 year old is pedophilia in my eyes.. Hell I feel dirty when I see some of the 17 year olds walking around where I work -and I'm not even 30
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04-16-2006 17:23
From: Jonas Pierterson
Musuko, a 30 year old man attracters ro a 16 year old is pedophilia in my eyes.. Hell I feel dirty when I see some of the 17 year olds walking around where I work -and I'm not even 30

You can believe whatever you like, and you can be wrong, but its a clear indication that your definitions of things are not to be given any weight since you feel you know better then millions of experts the world over.
Geepa Lazarno
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04-16-2006 17:47
Hmmm, perhaps we just ought to call every wrong and sick action sin and be done with it all.. It would certainly save a lot of hassle and arguments over semantics and distinctions.

Or you could try to understand the substance pf the distinctions others make and realize that simply because they do not lump two actions or lifestyles together which you deem similar does not necessarily mean that the person distinguishing the two things approves of either one.

For example, if I refer to a person who was drunk and ran over and killed a person, I can say they weren't guilty of first degree murder without giving approval of their actions. I am simply drawing the dinstinction that the guilty individual was not actively attempting to kill anyone. They are still guilty of manslaughter.

This parallels what others have said concerning your definitions of paedophilia and bestiality, Jonas. Such terms have implications attached to them for many which may or may not apply to the cases you have connected them with, and while I concur that most of the things you connect to these terms are bad things, I don't think they fit the spirit of the definitions of the terms to which you have attached to them.

Feel free to continue to lump these things together in your own mind if you wish, though.

My thoughts on your latest example: I believe a 30 year old actively dating a 16 year old is most likely a recipe for disaster and very rarely positive in nature.

However, perhaps the 16 year old looks to be 20, and the 30 year old wants to recapture his youth. In such a case, he might not lust for her as though she were a child, but rather looks upon her as a female in her prime years. His lust in such a case is still a bad thing, but its characteristic is distinctly different from a man who wishes to have his way with an 11-year old.

Depending on the area, she may or may not be of legal age. If she isn't of legal age, then by the legal definition, it would be considered statutory rape, just as if it had been between a 20 year old guy and a 16 year old gal.

These are the kinds of distinction others are making, based on the overall nature and timbre of the phrases used.
Jonas Pierterson
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04-16-2006 18:17
To each their own :)
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Musuko Massiel
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04-16-2006 21:51
"Musuko, a 30 year old man attracters ro a 16 year old is pedophilia in my eyes."

And there you have it ladies and gentlemen.

By the way, you've just described the aproximate ages of my parents when they met.

Musuko.
Yiffy Yaffle
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04-17-2006 19:31
Why hasn't this furry bashing thread been locked yet? Not like it will matter. Someone will just make another one. These trolls aren't going to listen to anyone. You cannot hope to accomplish anything by arguing with people who refuse to listen and plug their ears like "LALALALAALALA YOUR A FURRY YOU YIFF THATS BAD!!!" Furries are fantasy creatures like elves. They have existed in stories every since stories existed. Do some research on it. I will continue to endorse my opinions as long as you agree to continue with yours.

It's really funny how people seem to have this instinctive need to label people and sort them into groups. If you watch one anime with an anthropomorphic fox character and like it, your suddenly being accused of being something you never knew existed. It's a funny world we live in... Furrys are not beastialist just cuz they LOOK like animals. Just Like Age Players are not Pediphiles cuz theres no REAL children involved. ITS ROLE PLAY!

I'd like to know at what point anthropomorphic animal characters became the internets greatest sin, and a reason to flame without provocation. Seriously, I do. I grew up watching Looney Toons, and reading the Sonic The Hedgehog comic, and generally thinking that such characters were cool. And yet when someone wants to play one in a game as a fox or cat, it's all OLOL FURRIES YIFF YIFF BANT . Seriously, to the self-righteous masses, I say this: Why do you care so much what other people want to do in their own time?
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AJ DaSilva
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04-17-2006 19:35
Excellent bump Yiffy, thanks! I was missing the drama in here, it was well entertaining. :D

And, dude, Sonic the Hedgehog comic? That's soo not a cool thing to admit.
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Yiffy Yaffle
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04-18-2006 00:44
From: AJ DaSilva
And, dude, Sonic the Hedgehog comic? That's soo not a cool thing to admit.


And your reason? O.o
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Frost White
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04-18-2006 01:01
From: AJ DaSilva
Excellent bump Yiffy, thanks! I was missing the drama in here, it was well entertaining. :D

And, dude, Sonic the Hedgehog comic? That's soo not a cool thing to admit.


A Sonic insult hm? My persona is a Mobian Arctic Fox. You got something to say to me? *taps foot* I'm waAAIIIting!...
AJ DaSilva
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04-18-2006 12:45
From: Yiffy Yaffle
And your reason? O.o
Not sure actuually. Seemed funny at the time (4am)...
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