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Petition and Poll: Reinstate CrisMid

Selador Cellardoor
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07-29-2006 05:31
From: Phedre Aquitaine
Interesting. Apparently Stephen Linden voted on the poll, in favor of Cristiano's suspension.


Nice to have Linden input over the issue. *cough*
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Cilis Nephilim
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07-29-2006 05:54
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Please show your support in /signed or whatever else you want to chime in with, I'd appricate it... It could use some reform before I move it over to the feature voting list.
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07-29-2006 06:26
As of the other day i no longer have any respect for linden lab, however Individual Lindens themselves seem ok. i like ones like Torley, Nigel, Hermia, and philip (a few others) who actually live in the world and listen to people. Those in charge of banning, suspending, AR's, BR's, and support that do it the wrong way have lost it though.
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07-29-2006 07:45
From: Phedre Aquitaine
Interesting. Apparently Stephen Linden voted on the poll, in favor of Cristiano's suspension.


Polls that show how people voted are also lame.
Cilis Nephilim
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07-29-2006 07:58
Why be ashamed of how you feel?
Cow Hand
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07-29-2006 07:59
From: Cilis Nephilim
Why be ashamed of how you feel?


Yeah man, why not make US elections public, too?
Cilis Nephilim
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07-29-2006 08:04
Why not?

We might discover some voter fraud after all.
Phedre Aquitaine
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07-29-2006 09:42
From: Cow Hand
Polls that show how people voted are also lame.


Yeah, 'cause transparency is OMG bad.

Back under the bridge.
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Keiki Lemieux
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07-29-2006 10:02
I hate that this is a public poll, because I hit the wrong option by mistake. I hit "yes" to show my support of Cris and now anyone taking a cursory look at the poll will think I supported his suspension. I don't. If it was signing a petition it should have just been a thread that we could respond to by /signing. *sigh*
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07-29-2006 10:04
From: Selador Cellardoor
Nice to have Linden input over the issue. *cough*


He's only a Liason. *shrug*
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07-29-2006 10:07
From: Cow Hand
Yeah man, why not make US elections public, too?


Hmmmmm.... It might be interesting if you could go online and verify how your vote was registered. I bet a lot of Floridians would have gotten a surprise.
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Cristiano Midnight
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07-29-2006 10:12
From: Cow Hand
Polls that show how people voted are also lame.


I happen to agree with you - I've never been a fan of the public poll option in these forums - not that these polls have any real weight to them anyway. Privacy is an important part of the voting process, though I do also agree with Surreal that in the US elections, it would be nice to be able to ensure your vote was registered properly.
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07-29-2006 10:55
From: Cristiano Midnight
I happen to agree with you - I've never been a fan of the public poll option in these forums - not that these polls have any real weight to them anyway. Privacy is an important part of the voting process, though I do also agree with Surreal that in the US elections, it would be nice to be able to ensure your vote was registered properly.

I highly recomand everybody to take a turn volunteering as a election judge so they can see how your vote is insured! It was a very educational experience and one i hope to do again.
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07-29-2006 11:49
From: Troll Dougall
I highly recomand everybody to take a turn volunteering as a election judge so they can see how your vote is insured! It was a very educational experience and one i hope to do again.

Been there; done that. ;)
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07-29-2006 14:07
From: Cilis Nephilim
Well... I just got TOS-d again but I am going to appeal it with torly, I don't think the TOS was applied correctly this time, even by stretch of imagination. (given that A.) wasnt a repost or spam B.) the thread wasnt about appealing my suspended status, rather, where to post my concerns over the suspension appeals system... thus the TOS doesnt effect my thread.

Anyway, please look into the suggestions forum since I am going to post something there about a new appeals system, I'd love the support. I'm also going to post my question in secondlife answers, as amber linden suggested, where I might actually get an answer (I hope)

Have a nice morning, I'm not :D

I SAW THAT.

That was a complete mistake. I think maybe Strife did it because he was mad over the thread he locked using his name "Strife" as a sort of code.

It was repressive in the extreme.

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Cristiano Midnight
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07-29-2006 15:22
From: Cocoanut Koala
I SAW THAT.

That was a complete mistake. I think maybe Strife did it because he was mad over the thread he locked using his name "Strife" as a sort of code.

It was repressive in the extreme.

coco


It is bad enough that we didn't get to elect the ResMods - we can't seem to get rid of the ones who repeatedly abuse their role either. Strife has absolutely no business remaining a ResMod - his reasons for closing the thread were completely invalid. Yes, it is getting repressive in here, to the point of fucking ridiculousness.
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07-29-2006 16:26
From: Cristiano Midnight
Strife has absolutely no business remaining a ResMod - his reasons for closing the thread were completely invalid.
Agreed. I'm also disturbed how he acts as a representative for LL, speaking as if his opinion is LL's opinion. Worse is when he's doing this and he's completely mistaken, for instance when he was stating false information concerning the content of your post which brought about the suspension. I can't imagine that LL likes that any more than we do.

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07-29-2006 16:41
From: Ulrika Zugzwang
Agreed. I'm also disturbed how he acts as a representative for LL, speaking as if his opinion is LL's opinion. Worse is when he's doing this and he's completely mistaken, for instance when he was stating false information concerning the content of your post which brought about the suspension. I can't imagine that LL likes that any more than we do.

~Ulrika~


I reported the misstatements Strife was making to Torley, who to her credit did correct the post and clarify. From comments about being the police, to Marshall Law applying, to referring to ResMods as being a jury of his peers (not regular residents), he shows time and again that he has the improper attitude and a severe bias, not to mention his reasons for closing a perfectly good thread are completely invalid - the reaons he cites do not even match the post at hand. I have nothing against him personally, as I do not know him, but moderation should be fair, transparent, unobtrusive, and accurate - his is none of those things, and that is a problem that I will not remain quiet about, since we remain stuck with the resmod program.
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07-29-2006 17:36
From: Keiki Lemieux
I hate that this is a public poll, because I hit the wrong option by mistake. I hit "yes" to show my support of Cris and now anyone taking a cursory look at the poll will think I supported his suspension. I don't. If it was signing a petition it should have just been a thread that we could respond to by /signing. *sigh*


I didn't realize this was a public poll until just now. Interesting that a Linden voted yes.
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07-30-2006 00:12
My suggestion is, that if people are having serious problems with one particular moderator consistently overstepping the bounds of their authority, that the matter be reported to Torley, Jeska and Robin Linden, as they all have input over the forums and volunteers, and possibly even to Philip himself.

Although the ToS limits us in some ways, we do still have the right to fair and equal treatment. In fact, it could easily be said that select moderation and interpretation of the rules to target individuals repeatedly could be classed as a violation of the ToS clause against discrimination, and if us regular users are affected by it, then surely staff members - even volunteers - should be held to a higher level of accountability and lead by example.

At least, it's worked that way on every other game forum I've posted on.

I name no names, and merely express my opinion on the subject.

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Selador Cellardoor
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07-31-2006 06:13
From: Keiki Lemieux
I hate that this is a public poll, because I hit the wrong option by mistake. I hit "yes" to show my support of Cris and now anyone taking a cursory look at the poll will think I supported his suspension. I don't. If it was signing a petition it should have just been a thread that we could respond to by /signing. *sigh*


All that shows is that you should be more careful when voting.
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07-31-2006 06:15
From: Cristiano Midnight
I reported the misstatements Strife was making to Torley, who to her credit did correct the post and clarify. From comments about being the police, to Marshall Law applying, to referring to ResMods as being a jury of his peers (not regular residents), he shows time and again that he has the improper attitude and a severe bias, not to mention his reasons for closing a perfectly good thread are completely invalid - the reaons he cites do not even match the post at hand. I have nothing against him personally, as I do not know him, but moderation should be fair, transparent, unobtrusive, and accurate - his is none of those things, and that is a problem that I will not remain quiet about, since we remain stuck with the resmod program.


This is *exactly* what happens.
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