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What's so bad about Furries & Goreans anyway?

Lucifer Baphomet
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04-24-2006 05:10
Furs Goreans Vampires Blingtards Anthros Mecha Elves Trolls Demons D/sers Goths

I dont see the problem, everyone behind the avatars are bog standard homo sapiens.

shock

horror


were all the same

:eek:
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Usagi Musashi
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04-24-2006 05:14
omg can you say that again :rolleyes: ? without the makeup
Lucifer Baphomet
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04-24-2006 05:19
Just for you Usagi


Furs Goreans Vampires Blingtards Anthros Mecha Elves Trolls Demons D/sers Goths

I dont see the problem, everyone behind the avatars are bog standard homo sapiens.

shock

horror


were all the same

:eek:
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Haravikk Mistral
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04-24-2006 05:20
From: Jonas Pierterson
Difference: You choose to engage in the Gorean lifestyle. You choose to be a furry.

Just like choosing to do 'normal' things :)
You don't really choose what you like either, if you like something then you like it, you can choose NOT to do it but you still like it. Furs and other groups are really about saying "screw social ideals, this is what I like and I'm not ashamed about it!"

Being furry is mostly about having fun, using your imagination. SL is an interesting setting because in it you can be literally whatever you want to be, if that means fur and a tail then so be it.
I'm not really a fur, but I like drawing a furry character (it's easier for me than drawing full-featured people, damned faces!), but when I joined SL it took me very little time to get interested in a furry avatar, it's just so much more interesting IMO to see loads of weird and wonderful creatures wandering around the weird and wonderful places that everyone in SL creates. It's just another form of expression to me!

I never did get how fur-suits can be fun, I find it oppressive enough wearing ordinary clothes at a convention of any kind, wearing a furry suit on top/instead of that?! But eh, if it's fun for them and doesn't hurt anyone!

But I don't see why people seem to think furs go around demanding respect. I'd expect to receive the same treatment as any other resident, sure my avatar might look a little strange but most avatars do! I think most people who make a big fuss about furs just blow things out of proportion in general, and probably, in some weird way, find the appearance of a fur offensive even though they're being no different from another other neighbour, visitor or shop-owner.

I rarely stray from my home or from friend's homes, but I've been attacked in-world for being a fur.

It's stupid how intolerant some people can be, especially in this world where you can do or be anything your creativity (or other's creativity) can allow. IMO it's weird choosing to be human in-world, or going so far as to model your avatar after your real-world self, when you could do so many different things instead! Plenty of humans in real-life after all :)

As usual I've typed too much to say comparatively little, but hopefully someone finds it an interesting little read!
Usagi Musashi
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04-24-2006 05:24
WOW luc I see see a little eyeliner on you......

Gesh why is it people have to basis on issues.......what avies we wear.
Been around a long time, had many friends in all fragments of sl population.But one thing always stands out......narrow minded or kiss butt people. Never Understood why.but then again we all need a hobby.
Lucifer Baphomet
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04-24-2006 05:30
From: Usagi Musashi
WOW luc I see see a little eyeliner on you......

Gesh why is it people have to basis on issues.......what avies we wear.
Been around a long time, had many friends in all fragments of sl population.But one thing always stands out......narrow minded or kiss butt people. Never Understood why.but then again we all need a hobby.


You should see my alt, he has more eyeliner than a goth convention

no

wait


you have seen him
:D
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PetGirl Bergman
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04-24-2006 05:43
From: Lucifer Baphomet
You should see my alt, he has more eyeliner than a goth convention
no
wait
you have seen him
:D



ONLY? the eyeliner?.... ...... .... I liked the colour.. not to pale..

/Tina.. need a break at the office.. .
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04-24-2006 06:21
At this point in the thread, perhaps a brief summary by someone well versed in the failings of both groups, say, just the 25 most important things wrong with each group, would be in order. Just to cut down on reading time. :p
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Usagi Musashi
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04-24-2006 07:59
From: Lucifer Baphomet
You should see my alt, he has more eyeliner than a goth convention

no

wait


you have seen him
:D

Why is it i could believe that
Haravikk Mistral
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04-24-2006 09:11
From: SuezanneC Baskerville
At this point in the thread, perhaps a brief summary by someone well versed in the failings of both groups, say, just the 25 most important things wrong with each group, would be in order. Just to cut down on reading time. :p

Furries main failings:
#1 Static electricity, rub two furs together and my god bad things happen!
#2 Hair...in...food. Eugh!
#3 Tail + door = ouch
#4 You have to go to a vet's to get your teeth checked
#5 Keeping clean. You think washing your hair is bad? At least it's only on your head!

That's five :)
Burke Prefect
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04-24-2006 10:12
From: Haravikk Mistral
Furries main failings:

#5 Keeping clean. You think washing your hair is bad? At least it's only on your head!



That's what yiffing and communal grooming is for.
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Ketra Saarinen
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04-24-2006 10:21
From: Haravikk Mistral
#1 Static electricity, rub two furs together and my god bad things happen!


Where do you think we get the energy to Yiff so much? It's one of natures rare sources of self-propagating energy.

From: Haravikk Mistral
#2 Hair...in...food. Eugh!


Now now, most are well groomed and don't have shedding issues.

From: Haravikk Mistral
#3 Tail + door = ouch


This does take some practice if you were a hyooman before.

From: Haravikk Mistral
#4 You have to go to a vet's to get your teeth checked


Not at all. When dentists figured out that furries can have up to two or three times the dental surface area, they expanded their practices. :)

From: Haravikk Mistral
#5 Keeping clean. You think washing your hair is bad? At least it's only on your head!


Fur Shampoo. Easy, Fast, and smells so good. :)


#6 Chairs without holes for tails. Cramp!

#7 Pants without holes for tails. Whaddaya mean, pull my pants up?? They ARE up!

#8 Helmets. What? Officer, I can't hear you!

#9 Dietary constraints. Are these chocolates supposed to warm my heart, or stop it?

#10 Hot Days. Brian Griffin: "Hey don't flatter yourself, I don't have any sweat glands!"
Talon Lardner
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04-24-2006 10:51
11: Shoes. Forget anything fancy if you have draconic feet, and sneakers don't last nearly as long due to claws. Then if you choose to go barefoot, it makes public bathrooms that much less fun.

12: Makeup... or the lack of makeup. They're pretty much limited to lipstick.

13: No, I am not going to cheer on your high school team even though I am a Stallion, and your mascot is a Stallion

14: Stereotypes. Yes, I'm a rat. Yes, I pack a lot of stuff and horde it, never throwing stuff away. Yes, I heard of that phrase before.

15:Air Filters. You thought YOU had to change the air filters in your furnace often...
Reitsuki Kojima
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04-24-2006 11:54
16) Curious children + tail = pain

17) Forget blowing bubble gum. You just dont want to go there with fur. You really dont.

18) Bandaids.

19) Jokes about how your best friend's new pet looks "just like you. Is he related?"
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Haravikk Mistral
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04-24-2006 12:09
20) (For the horsies and similar) Hooves aren't that great for picking things up! Though if they're anything like my RL horse they can use their mouth to do everything instead :)

21) Water. Have to remember to shake-off BEFORE pulling back the shower-curtain, or you can say bye to any nice painted or wooden bathroom walls!
Dale Glass
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04-24-2006 12:21
22) You spend a fortune on shampoo. Drain in the shower clogs constantly.

23) All that fur in the air is bad for computer hardware, like CD and tape drives.

24) Male pattern baldness looks seriously bad.

25) Living in certain countries is nearly impossible without having a heat stroke. Any clothes will make you extremely hot, and since you lack sweat glands, you'll overheat really fast. If your body is human sized, you probably won't be able to stand 40C for more than a few minutes.
Ketra Saarinen
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04-24-2006 13:56
Tell ya this: If we were to create Furries in RL, I'm investing in shoe companies that make sandals.
Dale Glass
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04-24-2006 14:16
From: Ketra Saarinen
Tell ya this: If we were to create Furries in RL, I'm investing in shoe companies that make sandals.


Why? Furries can probably could get by just fine without sandals -- dogs certainly don't need them.

I think companies that make: specialized food (problems with coffee, chocolate, etc), air conditioners, special clothes, all sorts of devices that need to be ergonomic (keyboards, mice, scissors, chairs, headphones, etc), medicines would be a better idea.

If (I think when) we get RL furries, the first ones will be quite unlucky. Imagine the cost of buying a car seat that can be comfortably used with a tail, custom clothes, special food, cell phones and keyboards... they'd have to pay through the nose for most of the common cheap items nobody thinks much about.
Corvus Drake
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04-24-2006 14:19
Interesting that this comes up.

I have a friend who is IRL into hardcore body modification, she intends to nail hooves through her feet (a professional procedures) and have a tail surgically added to her. She intends to substitute the lack of fur with a head to toe tattoo.
Yiffy Yaffle
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04-24-2006 14:22
Hehe there will be a few problems but it will be taken care of in due time. :)

Chairs with tail slots.
Motercycle Helmets with enough room for a muzzle.
Headphones wil be a real pain.
We would nead glasses not designed to rest on human ears. :p
Dog food will nead to taste much much better. >.>
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Corvus Drake
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04-24-2006 14:26
From: Yiffy Yaffle
Hehe there will be a few problems but it will be taken care of in due time. :)

Chairs with tail slots.
Motercycle Helmets with enough room for a muzzle.
Headphones wil be a real pain.
We would nead glasses not designed to rest on human ears. :p
Dog food will nead to taste much much better. >.>



Glasses are easy. Make them fit like hairpins.
Alex Fitzsimmons
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04-24-2006 14:28
From: Corvus Drake
Interesting that this comes up.

I have a friend who is IRL into hardcore body modification, she intends to nail hooves through her feet (a professional procedures) and have a tail surgically added to her. She intends to substitute the lack of fur with a head to toe tattoo.


... wow.

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WOW. O.O
Dale Glass
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04-24-2006 14:39
From: Corvus Drake
Interesting that this comes up.

I have a friend who is IRL into hardcore body modification, she intends to nail hooves through her feet (a professional procedures) and have a tail surgically added to her. She intends to substitute the lack of fur with a head to toe tattoo.


I agree with Alex, wow.

Several questions come to mind:

Hooves?! Sounds painful. How can that even work?

Tail surgically added how? Actual living tissue, or something prothesic?
Ketra Saarinen
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04-24-2006 15:06
From: Dale Glass
Why? Furries can probably could get by just fine without sandals -- dogs certainly don't need them.


As someone pointed out earlier, would you want to walk on a public bathroom floor in bare feet? :)

Besides, doesn't matter how tough my feet are, I'm sure I'd appreciate something between them and whatever's on the ground. (Glass, Ice, etc.)
Corvus Drake
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04-24-2006 17:12
From: Dale Glass
I agree with Alex, wow.

Several questions come to mind:

Hooves?! Sounds painful. How can that even work?

Tail surgically added how? Actual living tissue, or something prothesic?



There's a surgical procedure that involves connecting the tail to the existing tailbone. Pet went into details on it with me once (yes, her name is Jennifer but she goes by Pet. You can imagine her sex life).

The hooves...she sent me an illustration. Basically it involves binding the person and using spikes to nail through the foot and into the hoof. It forces the foot into a high-heel style fit. The heel and flat of the foot is then encased in a prosthetic that attaches to the hoof and ankle. Pet is one messed up woman....I gave her tips on how to make the procedure sterile and the discussion made her cream herself.

She's not sure what animal she wants to become. So of course, I've recommended she join SL and find what furry body suits her the most. It's one of those one-way decisions she doesn't need to be fucking up ;P. I told her about Succubi instead of an animal, so she could have hooves but be made into a demon, and I about have her talked into that. I told her if she does that, I'll buy her from her family (would do that anyway, you can imagine what her home life is like and the girl needs out of that).

Damn I know some messed up people.....

Edit: For those of you thinking, "how can you support that?", there's something to keep in mind. There's a certain point a person can reach that they are so fundamentally and wildly different from the rest of us that, out of your love for them, it's better to make sure they are safe and happy than it is to make sure they lead a psychologically balanced life. Pet adores me for accepting who she is, and being able to look past what she is to hold deep conversations about philosophy and literature. I won't tamper with her happiness out of some crusade of fixing someone, because she is still a whole and happy person. I hope that makes sense to people.
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