To all that visit Adult Clubs in SL...
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Jellin Pico
Grumpy Oldbie
Join date: 3 Aug 2003
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07-12-2006 15:14
From: Diamond Naumova As to the hollier then thou art crap, you know what YES i will say without a doubt i am better then most these people especially the ones that do it in RL, why might you ask i think this? Perhaps because while you sit and pretend to have a clue where i get my morals and ideals i am out risking my life to make sure someone doesn't end yours. Then again law enforcment never has gotten the respect we deserve. As for judgement, i'd love you to use that same line on a judge in RL. Which i hate to tell you a good share of them come right from law enforcement.
Sooo, because you're a cop, your are better than others and can pass judgement on them? Fuck you.
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Shadow Garden
Just horsin' around
Join date: 17 Jul 2005
Posts: 226
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07-12-2006 15:15
From: Jonas Pierterson Having sex doesn't. Doing it for money does. So all those people out there who are married and have only a one income household, their mate must automatically be a prostitute? Since they aren't contributing any money to the household, and the other one is paying for everything ...
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Diamond Naumova
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Join date: 6 Feb 2006
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07-12-2006 15:15
From: Shiryu Musashi Everyone in SL is supposed to be adult, and as such entitled to chose their own way to have fun while abiding to the gaming rules. You're not in the position to pass judgement. Only the lindens can, and only about rules. Matter of fact i am, i am a member of the community so i can pass judgement on whoever i want, whenever i want. You don't like my words? Tuff deal with it/comment i don't really care i will still be heard. I am in no way saying they should be banned etc.. i am just giving my opinions on why it is wrong, and more so why they will not get any respect from me and probably many others. Like i've said before just because it happens doesn't make it right. Or else do you want to tell those families of people whom saddam tortured that while you were in "his" country it was ok and should have moved instead? Bit extreme of an example, but carries a valid point. Jerks/Freaks/Whores/Sluts/Assholes alike, will never and should never be allowed to set standards for the rest of the world. As long as i can speak up about it i surely will. Question is what is wrong with the people backing them up? I have yet to see an argument that showed a positive side for the community from this aside from the stupid comment about someone buying an outfit for it with "earned" money. I know i wouldn't want my wares to end up on some stripper that isn't my idea of great advertisement.
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Phedre Aquitaine
I am the zombie queen
Join date: 26 Jan 2006
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07-12-2006 15:16
From: Shadow Garden So all those people out there who are married and have only a one income household, their mate must automatically be a prostitute? Since they aren't contributing any money to the household, and the other one is paying for everything ... Achem. Stay at home partner here - I contribute a /lot/, thanks.
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Purrdence Takakura
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Join date: 10 May 2006
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07-12-2006 15:16
From: Shadow Garden So all those people out there who are married and have only a one income household, their mate must automatically be a prostitute? Since they aren't contributing any money to the household, and the other one is paying for everything ... Which is why some people actually do call marriage 'legalised prostition'. silly isn't it?
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Marla Truss
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Join date: 15 Mar 2006
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07-12-2006 15:18
I'm a SL Whore and I wear the title proudly. I provide an excellent service transcending the virtual world to provide enjoyment and comfort based on one of the most beautiful and rich aspects of being human.
There is nothing dirty about it, except in the minds of jealous and small minded bigots who would have everyone as miserable as they are.
A whore should be judged by the same criteria as other professionals offering services for pay -- such as dentist, lawyers, hairdressers, physicians, plumbers, etc. Is she professionally competent? Does she give good measures? Is she honest with her clients? It is possible that the percentage of honest and competent whores is higher than that of plumbers and much higher than that of lawyers. And enormously higher than that of professors. - R.A. Heinlein
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Reitsuki Kojima
Witchhunter
Join date: 27 Jan 2004
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07-12-2006 15:18
From: Shadow Garden So all those people out there who are married and have only a one income household, their mate must automatically be a prostitute? Since they aren't contributing any money to the household, and the other one is paying for everything ... You win the award! 
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Perseus Ni
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Join date: 27 Jun 2006
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07-12-2006 15:20
From: someone If writing erotic fiction is "whoring", you need to let Anne Rice know. Umm. I think she already knows. That's why she went to find God. 
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Diamond Naumova
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Join date: 6 Feb 2006
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07-12-2006 15:23
From: Jellin Pico Sooo, because you're a cop, your are better than others and can pass judgement on them?
Fuck you. No because i devote my time to bettering society and my community including lay my life on the line to make sure others are safe all while getting paid crap i do feel i am better especially ethically and morally then those types of people that degrade society. If you don't like that answer and/or don't believe it i really don't care i just hope your beliefs on that matter reflect back at you the next time someone decides to rob you or kidnap your child and everyone in your neighborhood witnessed it but didn't do jack squat, but the cop does. I'd say i hope he doesn't and you get screwed but we "Good police officers" wouldn't let that happen even if you just pulled a gun on us and tried to shoot us. Now would you say that isn't better in any of the ways i've mentioned?
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Matt Newchurch
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07-12-2006 15:24
From: Diamond Naumova No because i devote my time to bettering society and my community including lay my life on the line to make sure others are safe all while getting paid crap i do feel i am better especially ethically and morally then those types of people that degrade society.
If you don't like that answer and/or don't believe it i really don't care i just hope your beliefs on that matter reflect back at you the next time someone decides to rob you or kidnap your child and everyone in your neighborhood witnessed it but didn't do jack squat, but the cop does. I'd say i hope he doesn't and you get screwed but we "Good police officers" wouldn't let that happen even if you just pulled a gun on us and tried to shoot us. Now would you say that isn't better in any of the ways i've mentioned? Damn I feel sorry for the next prostitute this guy busts. "Yeah, well...she fell over. Twice." Don't go to work mad there, chief, ok?
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Ewan Took
Mad Hairy Scotsman
Join date: 5 Dec 2004
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07-12-2006 15:25
From: Diamond Naumova It's rather interesting when the only kind of response you can give is a direct attack at me, you lack any kind of merit with your words and should look elsewhere for your kicks.
Yes i shouldn't be in thier homes, but it happens and the same can say for flying a plane around over a sim and reading someone scream "oh baby oh baby put it in my pussy" it's sickening.
As to the hollier then thou art crap, you know what YES i will say without a doubt i am better then most these people especially the ones that do it in RL, why might you ask i think this? Perhaps because while you sit and pretend to have a clue where i get my morals and ideals i am out risking my life to make sure someone doesn't end yours. Then again law enforcment never has gotten the respect we deserve. As for judgement, i'd love you to use that same line on a judge in RL. Which i hate to tell you a good share of them come right from law enforcement.
Overall fine you want your sex and respect etc.. blah blah want to call it griefing fine, i want the same aspect i DO NOT want to see it outside of a clearly marked club, location and i sure as hell do NOT want to read about it as i fly by a sim. You want it to be "private" make it completely private to where the casual passer-by doesn't have to see/hear it. Or else i want that deemed as griefing and equally punishable. Really this isn't a problem. You don't need to worry there are areas on the grid marked PG. In these places you report anyone who uses language that may offend you or displays pixel nudity that disgusts you. Also even in Adult areas this sort of thing should be done in private so I think you have case for reporting anyone who broadcasts sexual content for all, though you don't have a case for reporting what you see inside private houses. There's no need to get so uptight about the whole thing, relax!
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Perseus Ni
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Join date: 27 Jun 2006
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07-12-2006 15:25
From: Chris Ellsworth In SL I think the "wording" of said professions is different than in RL. An escort in rl is someone you higher to spend a evening with you as eye candy. Where as a prostitute is someone who you higher to have sex with them. In SL a Dancer is the person you "higher" to spend a evening with you and a Escort is the person you higher for sex. Actually a Dancer is someone you "can" pay to spend time with you, not a whole evening necessarily. But you get what I mean. Plus, why are we all arguing this point anyway. It's not real!!! lol. In 1950 maybe, but not in the 2000's... It's more like a prositute you pickup on the street for $$ and she supports her crack habit. An escort is the same thing, only you pay her $$$+ for the same thing and she supports her apartment and coke habit. Just my opinion.
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Io Zeno
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Join date: 1 Jun 2006
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07-12-2006 15:26
From: Diamond Naumova No because i devote my time to bettering society and my community including lay my life on the line to make sure others are safe all while getting paid crap i do feel i am better especially ethically and morally then those types of people that degrade society. If you don't like that answer and/or don't believe it i really don't care i just hope your beliefs on that matter reflect back at you the next time someone decides to rob you or kidnap your child and everyone in your neighborhood witnessed it but didn't do jack squat, but the cop does. I'd say i hope he doesn't and you get screwed but we "Good police officers" wouldn't let that happen even if you just pulled a gun on us and tried to shoot us. Now would you say that isn't better in any of the ways i've mentioned? Ok, you win, being real life cop is better for society than pretending to be a whore a few hours a day in a online game. Since that was what this argument was really all about.
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Purrdence Takakura
Registered User
Join date: 10 May 2006
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07-12-2006 15:29
From: Io Zeno Ok, you win, being real life cop is better for society than pretending to be a whore a few hours a day in a online game.
Since that was what this argument was really all about. Well, Diamond's arguement. I just want people who chose, of their own free will, to go into an Adult club on a very diverse online word, to be nice to the people who chose, of their own free will, to work there.
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Io Zeno
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Join date: 1 Jun 2006
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07-12-2006 15:30
From: Purrdence Takakura Well, Diamond's arguement. I just want people who chose, of their own free will, to go into an Adult club on a very diverse online word, to be nice to the people who chose, of their own free will, to work there. Oh, yeah, that too. 
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Jellin Pico
Grumpy Oldbie
Join date: 3 Aug 2003
Posts: 1,037
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07-12-2006 15:30
From: Diamond Naumova No because i devote my time to bettering society and my community including lay my life on the line to make sure others are safe all while getting paid crap i do feel i am better especially ethically and morally then those types of people that degrade society.
If you don't like that answer and/or don't believe it i really don't care i just hope your beliefs on that matter reflect back at you the next time someone decides to rob you or kidnap your child and everyone in your neighborhood witnessed it but didn't do jack squat, but the cop does. I'd say i hope he doesn't and you get screwed but we "Good police officers" wouldn't let that happen even if you just pulled a gun on us and tried to shoot us. Now would you say that isn't better in any of the ways i've mentioned? All I can say is, from what you said, you think of yourself as better than those around you, and that gives you the right to pass judgement on who and what people are. That's sickening. Purely sickening. You sir, are not better than me or any other person in this thread, nor any person who's lifestyle choice offends you as long is that lifestyle is between consenting adults. Now, go on and tell us one more time about how you "put your life on the line" and let that martyr out.
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Diamond Naumova
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Join date: 6 Feb 2006
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07-12-2006 15:40
From: Jellin Pico All I can say is, from what you said, you think of yourself as better than those around you, and that gives you the right to pass judgement on who and what people are you are.
That's sickening. Purely sickening. You sir, are not better than me or any other person in this thread, nor any person who's lifestyle choice offends you as long is that lifestyle is between consenting adults.
Now, go on and tell us one more time about how you "put your life on the line" and let that martyr out. Ya know what i seriously hope the next time you are in need of someone "better" then the criminal attempting to harm you that there is no one around. It's called morals and are you that thick? It's also called an opinion which i've stated several times is my own. Consistently acting like my word is the word of god makes you look stupid. It's my opinion get over it. Don't like it tuff. If you truely think everyone is completely equal you have an issue. You try and place me in the same bracket as a crack dealer and all your doing is showing how ignorant you really are. Purrdence: Yes you are entirely correct, if someone goes into a clearly marked location for this purely for the aspect of harassing others it should be stopped, but in the same breath don't expect much respect from someone else that knows your in that business outside of the business. It's a Win/Lose situation. In your place of business you can demand all the respect you want and should recieve it, but right outside the door your fair game. That's true in the real world as much as it is here. IRL you go into a strip club and yell whore/slut or whatever else i am sure you'll get bounced you go outside and as they leave call them that in the open street i highly doubt many people would do anything about it.
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Phedre Aquitaine
I am the zombie queen
Join date: 26 Jan 2006
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07-12-2006 15:44
From: Diamond Naumova Ya know what i seriously hope the next time you are in need of someone "better" then the criminal attempting to harm you that there is no one around. It's called morals and are you that thick? It's also called an opinion which i've stated several times is my own. Consistently acting like my word is the word of god makes you look stupid. It's my opinion get over it. Don't like it tuff.
If you truely think everyone is completely equal you have an issue. You try and place me in the same bracket as a crack dealer and all your doing is showing how ignorant you really are.
Purrdence: Yes you are entirely correct, if someone goes into a clearly marked location for this purely for the aspect of harassing others it should be stopped, but in the same breath don't expect much respect from someone else that knows your in that business outside of the business. It's a Win/Lose situation. In your place of business you can demand all the respect you want and should recieve it, but right outside the door your fair game.
That's true in the real world as much as it is here. IRL you go into a strip club and yell whore/slut or whatever else i am sure you'll get bounced you go outside and as they leave call them that in the open street i highly doubt many people would do anything about it. Except, really, you and the crack dealer are both human, and therefore you are equal, in my eyes. Frankly, I've known prostitutes. Some of them were real peaches, some of them not so much - but I'd take the company of the nice ones over yours any day. Why? Because they weren't elitist, pretentious, obnoxious jerks with only a badge and an attitude.
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Snark Serpentine
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07-12-2006 15:45
From: Diamond Naumova Overall fine you want your sex and respect etc.. blah blah want to call it griefing fine, i want the same aspect i DO NOT want to see it outside of a clearly marked club, location and i sure as hell do NOT want to read about it as i fly by a sim. You want it to be "private" make it completely private to where the casual passer-by doesn't have to see/hear it. Or else i want that deemed as griefing and equally punishable. Stay out of mature regions. In fact, I recommend you stay at least 256m away from any such region at all times. Your notions of morality are unfit for our grid. From: Marla Truss I'm a SL Whore and I wear the title proudly. I provide an excellent service transcending the virtual world to provide enjoyment and comfort based on one of the most beautiful and rich aspects of being human. More power to you. I'm not into it, but "online interactive erotica" is enormously popular. May as well keep it in the hands of well-behaved, talented enthusiasts. Also, since this is a functioning virtual economy instead of a fanfic or roleplay forum, there's no harm in Lindens changing hands. I've seen a lot more paid for a lot less than such a flight of fancy.
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Matt Newchurch
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07-12-2006 15:48
From: Phedre Aquitaine Because they weren't elitist, pretentious, obnoxious jerks with only a badge and an attitude. And he can only prove to have one of those things.
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Cocoanut Cookie
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07-12-2006 15:50
I think the word "escort" came into generalized use to mean prostitute when they were wanting to get in the phone book, which I think was around the 70's. "Massage parlour" was another cover.
Interestingly, I have a 1934 movie on TV right now, and the woman just said, "He is my favorite escort!" lol.
Personally, I like the term "hooker."
As to the person who said that if you don't have respect for escorts in SL, then perhaps the game isn't for you . . . well, no. Mind control isn't required for entry, and people can play SL for years without setting foot in an escort-type club.
As for how real the business is, I would say that it is probably analogous to phone sex lines irl. (And the money is also just as real.) It's like having phone sex with people for money.
coco
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Phedre Aquitaine
I am the zombie queen
Join date: 26 Jan 2006
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07-12-2006 15:50
From: Matt Newchurch And he can only prove to have one of those things. Mmmhmm... Now, I've met good cops, and I've met bad cops - I lived in Rampart district for many a year - but the good cops had one thing in common. They all thought they were part of the community they were in, not above it, and acted accordingly. Guess what the bad cops were like? 
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Sally Rosebud
the girl next door
Join date: 3 May 2005
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07-12-2006 15:51
You do realize that calling a stripper a whore or a slut at anytime doesn't make you any better than than the people who you claim you are better than. Yes, everybody is equal, some are more unfortunate, or make worse choices in their lives, but perhaps all they've ever been called is something derogatory, and don't have the self esteem to better their lives. I really hope you are not a police officer in my area. Thinking you are better than everyone is a huge liability for you, even if you don't realize it. I know several cops, firefighters, EMT's/Paramedics, and NONE of them think they are any better than the people they serve.
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Shiryu Musashi
Veteran Designer
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07-12-2006 15:53
From: Diamond Naumova It's rather interesting when the only kind of response you can give is a direct attack at me, you lack any kind of merit with your words and should look elsewhere for your kicks.
I'm quite sorry you feel personally attacked.... no, wait, i'm not sorry at all. Again, my dear self elected righteousness judge, you're not the one to decide if my words have any merit or not. I know it's hard to accept, but you know, life is not always easy. From: someone Yes i shouldn't be in thier homes, but it happens and the same can say for flying a plane around over a sim and reading someone scream "oh baby oh baby put it in my pussy" it's sickening. Is it? And here i thought it was part of the human (And not only human actually) nature... how naive of me. From: someone As to the hollier then thou art crap, you know what YES i will say without a doubt i am better then most these people Thing that you're for sure not demonstrating right now, i'd have to say. From: someone Perhaps because while you sit and pretend to have a clue where i get my morals and ideals i am out risking my life to make sure someone doesn't end yours. Oooh now we've get to the "you don't know who you're talking with!" argument. People always get there when cornered, how pityful. Just for the record, you're still going on with your self educated guesses about people. I wonder what part of your oh so smart brain tells you that while you're oh so nicely risking your life for us (while being soundly paid for it, i might add) we're just sitting around pretending to have a clue? I might tell you that i'm involved in regular civilian protection/firefighting/disaster preventing/paramedics support volunteer (and as such unpaid) activities, and during them i sprained my back so badly that i risked to spend the rest of my life on a wheelchair and i had to walk for 6 hellish months with a cane (wich is why i've been away from second life for a bit), but of course, you'd still be completely sure you're better than me and everyone else, while i can safely assess than your attitude makes me laugh, and a lot. From: someone Then again law enforcment never has gotten the respect we deserve. As for judgement, i'd love you to use that same line on a judge in RL. Which i hate to tell you a good share of them come right from law enforcement. Too bad you're not a judge in second life. Nor a cop. You're just another citizen, with absolutely NO law enforcement authority. Again, hard do accept, i know, but you'll get over it with time, if you're lucky. From: someone Overall fine you want your sex and respect etc.. blah blah want to call it griefing fine, i want the same aspect i DO NOT want to see it outside of a clearly marked club, location and i sure as hell do NOT want to read about it as i fly by a sim. You want it to be "private" make it completely private to where the casual passer-by doesn't have to see/hear it. Or else i want that deemed as griefing and equally punishable. But that's exactly what we have in second life now. Sexual behavioir is restricted to mature sims. If you don't like it you can just stay in the sims labeled PG. If you go in mature sims, anything goes, and it's not for you to enforce any policy to them. As i said, you're just another resident. And by the way, since this thread was about asking people to be polite, your negative and disruptive attitude actually supports rude and aggressive behavioir. Interesting standpoint for a cop that's supposed to protect the peace. Very interesting. Thankfully enough, not all policemen are like you.
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Warda Kawabata
Amityville Horror
Join date: 4 Nov 2005
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07-12-2006 15:55
From: Marla Truss I'm a SL Whore and I wear the title proudly....
There is nothing dirty about it.... Then I guess you just ain't doing it right, hun.
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