To all that visit Adult Clubs in SL...
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Purrdence Takakura
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07-12-2006 11:38
1. Don't get shitty with us employees when we refuse to give you freebies. Also, calling someone a 'dirty f***ng slut' for refusing you will put you on the fast track to being banned from that club.
2. Accept that some in some clubs exotic dancers are just that, dancers. If you want sex you need an escort. See abovementioned point as well.
3. If there is a club rule where the dancers will not take off their tops for less than a certain amount, or can't do full frontal nudity in the public areas, don't hassle the employees to break the rule.
4. On the same point, if there's a rule against full frontal nudity in the club by customers, or there are employee only areas - follow the rules. Please don't chuck a sad when when we tell you off for ignoring the rules.
In a nutshell, yeah, so our AV's are involved in the SL adult industry. It's a fun way to make Lindens, and even some RL bucks. Please treat us with respect and you'll get it back.
-------- Adding this, because some people seemed to have missed the point of this thread:
Ok guys, the purpose of this thread was to ask people who go to SL adult clubs to be a bit nicer to the people there.
*Not* to start a discussion on the morality of the sex industry in RL or SL.
*Not* to bash the people who work in it.
If you have a problem with it, don't go to the clubs. Don't read this thread.
There's some stuff on SL I don't like... but I don't go hiijack someone else's thread to vocalise this. Start your own thread, ok?
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Nimil Blackflag
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07-12-2006 11:41
i have one to add to that.
if you go to an adult club and you see someone dancing. don't just assume they're a dancer in the club. i am so sick of being asked if i'm going to strip 8E
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Matt Newchurch
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07-12-2006 11:45
Absolutely, positively NO sex in the champagne room.
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Ceera Murakami
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07-12-2006 11:56
From: Nimil Blackflag i have one to add to that.
if you go to an adult club and you see someone dancing. don't just assume they're a dancer in the club. i am so sick of being asked if i'm going to strip 8E Absolutely! There's one club that I go to, and dance at on the main dance floor with other guests, because it's run by friends of mine. I go there to support my friends, try my luck on the raffle balls, and generally kick back. I do NOT Strip or Escort. EVER. Sometimes I might be dressed pretty sexy, to try for one of their contest prizes. But just because someone is in an adult club and has a pretty avatar, you can't assume they work there, or that they are working there as escorts. For those who ARE working there... remember, that's still a PERSON up there on that stipper pole or stage. Someone spending time to entertain people, and hopefully earn some money. That doesn't make it OK to hurl abuse at them.
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Dr Tardis
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07-12-2006 11:58
From: Purrdence Takakura 2. Accept that some in some clubs exotic dancers are just that, dancers. If you want sex you need an escort. See abovementioned point as well.
When, exactly, did our language get so distorted that "Escort" means "whore"? If you want sex, you need a whore. If you want to go to a party with someone on your arm, then you need an escort. I know, I know.. the two words are almost synonymous now, but I still get irked when I see all these ephemisms become common usage. Okay... on the serious side: I'm sorry you had trouble with an idiot. However, that does seem to be the way SL is going. 
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Ewan Took
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07-12-2006 11:58
From: Purrdence Takakura 1. Don't get shitty with us employees when we refuse to give you freebies. Also, calling someone a 'dirty f***ng slut' for refusing you will put you on the fast track to being banned from that club.
2. Accept that some in some clubs exotic dancers are just that, dancers. If you want sex you need an escort. See abovementioned point as well.
3. If there is a club rule where the dancers will not take off their tops for less than a certain amount, or can't do full frontal nudity in the public areas, don't hassle the employees to break the rule.
4. On the same point, if there's a rule against full frontal nudity in the club by customers, or there are employee only areas - follow the rules. Please don't chuck a sad when when we tell you off for ignoring the rules.
In a nutshell, yeah, so our AV's are involved in the SL adult industry. It's a fun way to make Lindens, and even some RL bucks. Please treat us with respect and you'll get it back. Why don't the guys who desperately want to see point 3 and 4 not just change their avie into a female, give themselves huge breasts, colour their hair blonde then remove all clothes? It's not hard to do!! 
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Reitsuki Kojima
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07-12-2006 12:01
From: Dr Tardis When, exactly, did our language get so distorted that "Escort" means "whore"?
If you want sex, you need a whore. If you want to go to a party with someone on your arm, then you need an escort. Amen!
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Io Zeno
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07-12-2006 12:03
From: Ewan Took Why don't the guys who desperately want to see point 3 and 4 not just change their avie into a female, give themselves huge breasts, colour their hair blonde then remove all clothes? It's not hard to do!!  I've run into just such guys. They still come on to female avies, it's very disconcerting, lol.
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Matt Newchurch
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07-12-2006 12:05
Purely financial. With a sexy female avatar, you never need to pay for an escort.
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Cindy Claveau
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07-12-2006 12:13
From: Dr Tardis When, exactly, did our language get so distorted that "Escort" means "whore"? Because "Escort" looks better in the Search window than "**Come to Blingerz Club for Sexah Whores!**" That, and most escorts only want that word used if it's in consentual roleplaying. Otherwise it's usually used as an insult. Just because they sell their virtual bodies doesn't give you the right to disparage their character. That's how it comes across.
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Ceera Murakami
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07-12-2006 12:13
Meh. I have a sexy female avvie *and* a sexy male avvie. I have them to entertain my closest friends, and not to entertain myself.
If I really wanted to look at sexy CG images, I'd fire up DAZ Studio or Poser, and get far better images!
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SuezanneC Baskerville
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07-12-2006 12:17
From: Matt Newchurch Absolutely, positively NO sex in the champagne room. Why not?
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SuezanneC Baskerville
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07-12-2006 12:18
From: Ceera Murakami Meh. I have a sexy female avvie *and* a sexy male avvie. I have them to entertain my closest friends, and not to entertain myself.
If I really wanted to look at sexy CG images, I'd fire up DAZ Studio or Poser, and get far better images! That's for sure.
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Matt Newchurch
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07-12-2006 12:19
From: SuezanneC Baskerville Why not? Because.
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Alysia Loudon
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07-12-2006 12:23
From: Purrdence Takakura
2. Accept that some in some clubs exotic dancers are just that, dancers. If you want sex you need an escort. See abovementioned point as well.
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escorts go with people on dates. Prostitutes sleep with people for money. If you're in the adult business, know the terms.
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Alysia Loudon
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07-12-2006 12:24
From: Cindy Claveau Because "Escort" looks better in the Search window than "**Come to Blingerz Club for Sexah Whores!**" That, and most escorts only want that word used if it's in consentual roleplaying. Otherwise it's usually used as an insult. Just because they sell their virtual bodies doesn't give you the right to disparage their character. That's how it comes across. a whore is a whore, and all escorts are not whores, but all who take money for sex -are- whores
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Jonas Pierterson
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07-12-2006 12:28
An escort does dates (no sex) for money. A prostitute does sex for money. Don't like the terms? Don't do the business.
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Cindy Claveau
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07-12-2006 12:29
From: Alysia Loudon a whore is a whore, and all escorts are not whores, but all who take money for sex -are- whores Politicans are called "whores" because they sacrifice their personal integrity for power. A woman can engage in the oldest profession without sacrificing her personal integrity. In fact, there is a clear difference between a $5 streetwalker and a $1000 call girl in RL. Calling them all "whores" lumps them in with politicians, and that's unfair to the working girls. If you want to use a prejorative term on people go right ahead, but it makes you sound crude.
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Reitsuki Kojima
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07-12-2006 12:32
From: Cindy Claveau Just because they sell their virtual bodies doesn't give you the right to disparage their character. If "whore" is a comment on their character, then I think it does, actually.
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VolatileWhimsy Bu
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07-12-2006 12:34
... you guys have got to be joking on having this discussion.. This is the type of discussion you have in real life... you know where you are being judgemental or boxing another in? This is a place for all to be nice, understand and all..
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onionpencil Musashi
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07-12-2006 12:35
lol nice idea vol, but good luck with it...
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Matt Newchurch
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07-12-2006 12:36
From: Jonas Pierterson An escort does dates (no sex) for money. A prostitute does sex for money. Don't like the terms? Don't do the business. Never in the history of the world has an 'escort' slept with her client? Come on...show of hands, SL Escorts: How many of you refuse to sleep with your clients as a matter of principle? There's a semantic difference (First they came for the hackers, but I was not a hacker so I said nothing...), but...let's not kid ourselves here. Do a search for 'escort' in the game and don't have it show mature content, then do it again WITH mature content. Who is the bigger business?
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VolatileWhimsy Bu
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07-12-2006 12:39
From: onionpencil Musashi lol nice idea vol, but good luck with it... yeah i can hope... Seriously though some ppl here are quite silly and make my claws come out.. i dont' know how many times i have had to change my mind on posting something.. Don't want to be to mean since im kinda new and dont' want to scare ppl away... well.. ok, some of em i do, I have been practicing with my gun in sl.. *grin
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Io Zeno
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07-12-2006 12:40
Wait a minute... I've been called worse and wasn't even paid for it!  You mean these "Escorts" are actually offering sexual services!? Why, that is patently false advertising, as anyone with a dictionary handy would know, and I think they should be reported to the Lindens.
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Jonas Pierterson
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07-12-2006 12:40
From: Cindy Claveau Politicans are called "whores" because they sacrifice their personal integrity for power. A woman can engage in the oldest profession without sacrificing her personal integrity. In fact, there is a clear difference between a $5 streetwalker and a $1000 call girl in RL. Calling them all "whores" lumps them in with politicians, and that's unfair to the working girls. If you want to use a prejorative term on people go right ahead, but it makes you sound crude. Don't care if it does, because I see whores as crude, so give their opinion little merit. There is no difference betwwen 5 and 1000 USD, if you take money for sex you are a whore and a prostitute. Ignore that name, I forgot to sign out of my fiance's account.
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