To all that visit Adult Clubs in SL...

Neither as I do both, and I don't do either on company time.

Ok guys, the purpose of this thread was to ask people who go to SL adult clubs to be a bit nicer to the people there.

*Not* to start a discussion on the morality of the sex industry in RL or SL.

*Not* to bash the people who work in it.

If you have a problem with it, don't go to the clubs. Don't read this thread.

There's some stuff on SL I don't like... but I don't go hiijack someone else's thread to vocalise this. Start your own thread, ok?

SL "sex" is different from real-life sex, it isn't sex.
It's words exchanged on a screen, with virtual characters engaging in said acts, if they can afford the animations!

Sexual intercourse as defined by Merriam-Webster Online (since you like it so much): 1) heterosexual intercourse involving penetration of the vagina by the penis: coitus
2) intercourse (as anal or oral intercourse) that does not involve penetration of the vagina by the penis.

As far as I can tell, a SL escort, or prostitute, or whore or whatever you want to call it, isn't getting any part of her penetrated. It's a game. It's not real. If people want to pretend, let them pretend. Is someone who pays for porn a john? Should he be arrested? Should the person who pays the escort, prossy, etc be banned? Lets be sensible. This is a place for adults, whatever they consent to is their own business.

PS: Sorry Purrdence, duley noted.

Sorry. Your thread belongs to the world, now.

Question: Do strippers wear collision detectors to know when somebody has clicked on (touched) them, so they can alert a bouncer, or do they have their left-click defaulted to 'Pay'?

This is dangerous thinking on your part, you are not big brother, and what someone else does while not in your home or business is, quite frankly, NOT your business.

And as a member of a BDSM community in RL, you'd be surprised to find out what "straight laced" employees are doing in their personal lives. Most people involved in alternative sexual lives are not the unethical, immoral people you'd suspect..... most of them are married couples in their 30s and 40s.

Someone who can be psychologically harmed by paying $1-2 for online erotica? Can we say, "fragile". Most people would experience more psychological harm from a bad cup of coffee which costs twice as much.

Uh, neither. As far as I know.

That was totally my idea. Nobody implement that. Patent! PATENT!!

if they don't have a tip-jar, you just click on the 'pay' pie slice on the circle that comes up when you right click them.

this is still going on.. sigh

well hey ok, they're hoes, and ppl that spend their life behind a computer with little social interaction in the rl show a strong disposition to antisocial behaviors or are inept at social interaction.. hows that?

ahh.. so not every peg fits in the same hole?

Volatile... does it really matter to you so much that you need to argue over the defination of a word on something on the internet... this particular line of thought is only continuing because you keep harping on about it. Yes, we get it that you don't like women who sell their sexual services to others, we got your point the *first* time!

Tee Hee Kewl Threed
Pay For Sex..I Would If I Had Too **EvarOne Loves Me**
Tee Hee -WORD-

So do you go around calling females in the game that have sex for money prostitutes then? I have never seen anyone use that term in game.

hmm..
you are too funny, let me define for you on what i typed... i typed that those self righteous jerks, should not worry wether someone is a hoe or not cause who cares.. cause they are not ones to talk... hmm.. if there is still confusion on that let me know..

Purrdence: I wonder what the age ratio is when it comes to those who need to read the rules you posted. I'll bet a good number of them are under 18.

The sex thing in SL is...odd to me. It's like watching two barbie dolls go at it. Still, men are driven by sex, so for many of them pixels make it all happen I guess.

However, since, as it was pointed out, there is a real person behind the AV, they should be respected.
I know there are a lot of crossovers in SL, but I'm guessing that in the "industry" there are a lot more cases where there is a woman at the keyboard behind the female AV when it comes to dancers. It would not suprise me at all to find the opposite with prostitutes (larger portion guys roll playing as females).

Start treating yourself with respect and you'll get it back. Your price is lindens, nothing else -- You lost all chance at dignity when you made that decision.



Sure is. In RL I know if I'm really banging a fat balding white guy playing with himself in his parents' basement.



How is that any different from SL? Most (not all) of the people in this "industry" on SL don't have any real skills and are just looking for some quick cash instead of learning how to do legitimate things to contribute to the community's growth rather than its degradation.



Because one bad situation gets them stuck in that situation, yes. What's the excuse on here? These people could go to a few classes at Teazers. It's their choice to have no respect for themselves, so it's laughable when they demand it from others.



How is clicking a bunch of attachments and going "OOHH MMM OMG MY PUSSY" even close to writing erotic fiction? There's a huge difference between writing a story and whoring out an online persona.



Right, and it saddens me to see legitimate places have to close down because so many people only come here for the sex. Seriously, if that's all you're after then get some porn - at least that's free. There is so much more to Second Life but people just lock themselves inside of this sex community and don't get out and appreciate what's there so it can flourish.

I dont' care whether or not you agree with me -- Get out there and explore what else is available in SL and I think you'll find yourself pleasantly surprised. There's a lot more entertaining things to do than sitting in sleazy virtual clubs.

I know someone who is stripping to pay for her university tution fees (which aren't as high as the US thank the gods) who encounters the same attitudes in the real world that I do on SL. It seems that there are a lot of guys that think if a woman takes her clothes off for money, then they can treat them like dirt. A female stripper version of 'Australian Idol' would be seen as sleazy... but if it's one to find male strippers (and there has been one in Aussieland) it's seen as cheeky and fun. So I don't think it's just an age thing, just some guys feel they should get everything they want, they way they want it, when they want it.

But one of my nice, respectful customers put it this way - 'you wouldn't walk into a clothes store and demand they give you free clothes and just because this is a strip club dosen't make it any different.'

I'm adding this to the start:

Ok guys, the purpose of this thread was to ask people who go to SL adult clubs to be a bit nicer to the people there.

*Not* to start a discussion on the morality of the sex industry in RL or SL.

*Not* to bash the people who work in it.

If you have a problem with it, don't go to the clubs. Don't read this thread.

There's some stuff on SL I don't like... but I don't go hiijack someone else's thread to vocalise this. Start your own thread, ok?

The beauty of SL is that it's everyone's world and there is no 'right' way to play it!

Hi. What are the rules for a Gorean strip club? I hear those guys are pretty strict. Thanks in advance!

Actually Matt, I don't know. I've never been to one. Perhaps you should start a thread?

Product and Service, learn the difference for one. Another please don't get all feministic i mean come the fuck on your degradeing women further by showing that the only thing most of you are good for in games is sex. You want to hide behind a computer and pretend to a be a stripper fine, but don't expect people to think highly of you or treat you with respect. Respect is earned IMO and someone flaunting pixels at another person just to make a buck does not enter my mind as a respectful way to behave.

As to the person with the BDSM group or whatever just because it is being done doesn't make it right, but i will agree to an extent personal life and acts like you expressed wouldn't be any of my business and i could care less. That is a healthy sex life. Once you sink to the level of charging or paying for it IMO that's crossing the line and i certainly would not tolerate that in a business atmosphere personally. Try and remember there are plenty of places where this is still considered ILLEGAL.

In the end it's great for the "whore,stripper,slut" whatever you want to name it, but overall it's generally bad for the reciever and more so for women in general. All these women fighting so hard for womens rights and you get set back 20 years when the flirty hot blonde takes 20$ for a quick one. Sick really.

Gee i wonder why so many double standards still exist.. oh i am sure it's got to do with women being looked upon as frail weaklings (forget those body builders) or dumb/inferior (forget those senators) instead of sex objects ( oh wait nothing to forget here) Atleast some women with good morals and an ethical attitude can make it somewhere still a hard struggle for the rest sadly.

Enjoy that vacation money sure it was worth it.

Keep in mind these are my opinions which i happen to know are shared with several others, however this specific occasion is not the only target it's this overall attitude in general and the actions in general. I am not saying this one person is dooming all women, but sure isn't helping.

Nice advice.

As for 'the poor unskilled beaten up irl prostitutes that don't know what they are doing compared to the virtual ones'

Sorry but I saw a documentation last sunday...they even have training schools for prostitues.
So they can get the most amount of cash out of their 'act'
+I think selling your body irl is very diffirent then in-game.

Most prostitutes irl...are prostitutes because they are forced to sell their body.
Or because they have chosen to be one.

The ones who have chosen to be one , know very well what they are doing.

So SL prostitutes aren't better then irl ones.
SL escorts are just a few dirty words spamming on your screen and cartoon sex.

As for escorts...true they are ment to be someone who gives someone else company...
But lets be honest..most people hire and escort for sex...

An escort comes to your house and is discrete..
A prostitute displays herself before a window wich isn't fancy but rather cheap.


As for SL... I don't think anyone has ever hired an escort in SL just to be 'company'
We all know SL escorts = people selling their virtual body.

They even have pricelists...and no where on the pricelist doesn't say 'i will accompany you on dates'

It says how much they charge for 30min and 1hour SEX.


I never ever escorted my virtual body in SL.
I have way too much pride for it.
I rather be poor in SL then selling my virtual body.

And to be honest...There are loads of escorts in SL.
But I truly truly doubt that they really earn much.

I bet that i'm earning more with my creativity then they do with their escorting.

So it's not like you HAVE to sell your body to have cash in SL.
cause i've noticed that some people really think that's the only option to earn cash in SL.

The best way to make money in SL is through your own creativity.

How is this hijacking your thread? You are demanding respect from your customers, and I'm explaining to you why it's absolutely ridiculous to expect any. Let's face it, when I think of respectful people, guys that pay for online sex are not exactly on the top of the list.

You're not going to get respect from your customers because they're creeps, and you're not going to get respect from anyone outside of your community because you've made SL into a place where mindless sex supercedes genuine creativity and depth.

Wow, aren't you the pompous moralizing self righteous holier than thou (insert favorite word here)?

I must say .. you really make me nauseous. Thank goodness we have people like you to tell us the difference between right and wrong instead of making up our own minds.