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Yiffy Yaffle
Purple SpiritWolf Mystic
Join date: 22 Oct 2004
Posts: 2,802
07-17-2006 09:34
It's 9:35PM do you know where your thread locking lindens are? I think the problem has been handled. I meen like 20 or so abuse reports must have been filed during the attack. :/
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Gambit Kilian
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07-17-2006 09:35
From: Yiffy Yaffle
It's 9:35PM do you know where your thread locking lindens are? I think the problem has been handled. I meen like 20 or so abuse reports must have been filed during the attack. :/


Riiight.

I'm sure you'd like to see me locked out of the game, but no, I'm scanning my computer, and will be logging back in shortly to rejoin one my friends on a dance pad. :)
Yiffy Yaffle
Purple SpiritWolf Mystic
Join date: 22 Oct 2004
Posts: 2,802
07-17-2006 09:44
i don't stand to win or lose from the problem any more then the others in this topic. I'm just going based on information by a trustworthy person i know. I'm simply protecting a sim from a group that was cought griefing. I treat all griefers the same. They come in thinking it's cool to piss people off, but they don't exactly get the results they expected.
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Gambit Kilian
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07-17-2006 09:45
That's nice. I'm not a griefer. Have fun! :)
Dellybean North
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Join date: 8 May 2006
Posts: 321
07-17-2006 09:46
From: Allana Dion
.... And guess what, they're not evicting one, they're evicting all of them.



Makes sense to me.
Kind of like head lice...you really do need to eliminate them all or they keep coming back.
Gambit Kilian
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07-17-2006 09:49
From: Dellybean North
Makes sense to me.
Kind of like head lice...you really do need to eliminate them all or they keep coming back.


Yeah, I mean everywhere I go I'm getting attacked in this game.

Oh wait, no I'm not. I've never had any of these 'griefer' problems. :)
Jonas Pierterson
Dark Harlequin
Join date: 27 Dec 2005
Posts: 3,660
07-17-2006 10:02
From: Gambit Kilian
That's nice. I'm not a griefer. Have fun! :)


People I trust claim otherwise.
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Gambit Kilian
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07-17-2006 10:10
From: Jonas Pierterson
People I trust claim otherwise.


Ok.

People also claim Bush is the devil, Tom Cruise killed Oprah Winfry, Scientology is the root of all evil, clowns are killers, and there are monsters in the closet.

:p
Suzanna Soyinka
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Join date: 25 Nov 2005
Posts: 292
07-17-2006 10:14
From: Gambit Kilian
Ok.

People also claim Bush is the devil, Tom Cruise killed Oprah Winfry, Scientology is the root of all evil, clowns are killers, and there are monsters in the closet.

:p


Bush isn't the devil, that would require Christian mythology to actually be...factual.

He is an evil bastard thats screwing up the world though. So I guess thats close enough.

Tom Cruise killed Oprah, I saw it on YTMND so it must be true.

Scientology is pretty evil.

Clowns are killers. Ted Bundy anyone?

I think theres probably a few monsters in your closet.
Gambit Kilian
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07-17-2006 10:15
From: Suzanna Soyinka
I think theres probably a few monsters in your closet.


I just checked, no monsters, but I found a penny.

You had me scared for a second. :(
Tiger Zobel
hoarder
Join date: 13 Jan 2006
Posts: 391
07-17-2006 10:20
From: Gambit Kilian
If it was as childish as you say you wouldn't be posting in this thread. Immature children are ignored when they speak.

Quoted for the irony of responding to those they label as immature children....
Copper Surface
Wandering Carroteer
Join date: 6 Jul 2005
Posts: 157
07-17-2006 10:22
I can't help being a little sympathetic. Not because I believe or disbelieve any accusations, but because, unfortunately, your method of 'defending' yourself or your friends from accusation started out on a decidedly confrontational tone - more akin to a 'Oh yeah? You got nothin' on me!' rather than a 'I'm sorry, but I really didn't do it.' As for my opinion on whether or not these accusations are well-founded, I choose not to express it.

Perhaps you are merely having a natural indignant reaction to the blackening of your name across several sims, but regardless, the manner in which you argue your case is not effective. By this I mean ridicule, sniping, flippant comebacks and general insensitivity to the parties involved and to those with opposing viewpoints. In my opinion, a large proportion of the frequent posters to these forums are in fact intelligent and nominally reasonable.

I wish you better interactions in the future.
Gambit Kilian
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07-17-2006 10:23
From: Tiger Zobel
Quoted for the irony of responding to those they label as immature children....


Got me there. Nice job! :)
Gambit Kilian
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07-17-2006 10:24
From: Copper Surface
I can't help being a little sympathetic. Not because I believe or disbelieve any accusations, but because, unfortunately, your method of 'defending' yourself or your friends from accusation started out on a decidedly confrontational tone - more akin to a 'Oh yeah? You got nothin' on me!' rather than a 'I'm sorry, but I really didn't do it.' As for my opinion on whether or not these accusations are well-founded, I choose not to express it.

Perhaps you are merely having a natural indignant reaction to the blackening of your name across several sims, but regardless, the manner in which you argue your case is not effective. By this I mean ridicule, sniping, flippant comebacks and general insensitivity to the parties involved and to those with opposing viewpoints. In my opinion, a large proportion of the frequent posters to these forums are in fact intelligent and nominally reasonable.

I wish you better interactions in the future.


I'm a taurus, working on it. :)
Jonas Pierterson
Dark Harlequin
Join date: 27 Dec 2005
Posts: 3,660
07-17-2006 10:29
From: Gambit Kilian
Ok.

People also claim Bush is the devil, Tom Cruise killed Oprah Winfry, Scientology is the root of all evil, clowns are killers, and there are monsters in the closet.

:p


Yeah, but those don't make sense. Their claim about you does.
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Gambit Kilian
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07-17-2006 10:32
From: Jonas Pierterson
Yeah, but those don't make sense. Their claim about you does.


You've said that, I disagree.

I'm going to attempt to draw a dead horse in symbols.
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=(_)
. (_____)==-
. .|.......|

Please proceed to beat my badly drawn horse. :D
Jack Harker
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07-17-2006 13:00
From: Gambit Kilian
Get off on flaming much?


Well, you certainly seem to get off on *being* flamed from the evidence.
Gambit Kilian
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07-17-2006 13:03
From: Jack Harker
Well, you certainly seem to get off on *being* flamed from the evidence.


Thanks for bring the thread back from whatever page it fell to.

The dead horse thanks you too. <3

I'd like this thread locked now, it's serving no purpose beyond a flame war.

I really wasn't being unreasonable, but people apparently feel I was, and have stated so many times. So everything that could be said, has been said. No need for constant repetition.
Pol Tabla
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07-17-2006 13:10
From: Gambit Kilian
Thanks for bring the thread back from whatever page it fell to.

The dead horse thanks you too. <3

I'd like this thread locked now, it's serving no purpose beyond a flame war.

I really wasn't being unreasonable, but people apparently feel I was, and have stated so many times. So everything that could be said, has been said. No need for constant repetition.


*bump*
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07-17-2006 13:19
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Barry Weary
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07-17-2006 13:26
This thread is rather troubling. I read through and see one guy being crucified by multiple posters, all without any apparent benefit of any evidence against the guy being crucified. I never thought I'd praise the maturity level of posters on the World of Warcraft forums, but at least there they refuse to convict without evidence.

The "guilty until proven innocent" attitude exemplified by this thread and other threads on these forums is hugely disturbing. I see someone being told to "grow up" for having said something as audacious as "where's your proof?"

I'm not even going to weigh in on whether or not banning a group for the actions of one or two members is or isn't a good or ethical idea. I think there is no absolute answer to that and that the ethics of such a decision depend on the situation. There's nuance there.

But there is no nuance to the collaborative tarring-and-feathering of a single person who has been accused of grievious crimes without even a shred of evidence. That is simply disturbing, and I am only more disturbed by the apparent lack of any voices siding with the accused. I do not know if the accused is a good person or not. I make no such assumptions. But a community that sees nothing wrong with going after one person, mob-with-torches style, on the basis of pure hearsay...I can make assumptions about such a community, and they are not happy assumptions.
Pol Tabla
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07-17-2006 13:32
From: Barry Weary
This thread is rather troubling. I read through and see one guy being crucified by multiple posters, all without any apparent benefit of any evidence against the guy being crucified.
Helpful Forum Hint: If you don't want to be crucified, don't bring your own cross and nails. Also, try to avoid the Jesus Christ pose.
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Gambit Kilian
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07-17-2006 13:33
From: Pol Tabla
Helpful Forum Hint: If you don't want to be crucified, don't bring your own cross and nails. Also, try to avoid the Jesus Christ pose.


I find that post very offensive...

I'd like to thank you Barry for bringing some logic and reasoning into this. I've tried all I can, but they won't budge, or listen.
Phedre Aquitaine
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Join date: 26 Jan 2006
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07-17-2006 13:34
From: Pol Tabla
Helpful Forum Hint: If you don't want to be crucified, don't bring your own cross and nails. Also, try to avoid the Jesus Christ pose.


I just choked on my tea.
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Pol Tabla
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07-17-2006 13:34
From: Gambit Kilian
I find that post very offensive...
Offensive? Or instructive?
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