Did Anyone Read This? Res Mods Phase 2

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I haven't played Grand Theft Auto et all. but I will take your word for it. And yes it does sound absurd.

None of us *know* if anyone has been disciplined over using profanity on the forums (except the people who have been). I'm pretty sure that no one will get a perma-ban simply for using profanity. In my opinion, that would fall into the realm of ridiculous, as we are all adults here.

I'm suddenly reminded of a movie that got an R rating simply because of WHO was in it, not because of any content, I don't even remember the word "fuck" being used. It certainly wasn't violent, nor were there any steamy sex scenes. It just had Richard Pryor in it. Therefore it was rated R. (Don't ask me what this has to do with anything, I'm just reminded of it and I am so easily distracted that my train of thought often leaves me behind. )

Back to the topic at hand: I do agree with the perceived lack of consistency - there are people who do attack people and seem to suffer no consequence, but again, we don't really *know*. There are threads that stay open LONG after they should have been closed because every now and then someone will bring it back to topic - although there are several attacks on others or meta-discussions going on for pages before it gets back to topic.

I absolutely do know, Joy. I believe I reported every one of the phrases I quoted earlier in this thread. What I don't know is who else besides me reported any of them.

The poster may have been talked to, spoken to severely, had his wrists slapped, or received informal warnings for any or all of those remarks to other posters.

I do know for a fact he received no formal warning, let alone a suspension, for any of them, because I kept a close eye on the police blotter during that time.

Not because I wish bad things to happen to that poster. I want him as free to post here as anyone else. But - under the same rules as everyone else. I wanted to see if any of those things was actually considered a personal attack, because I assumed they clearly were.

And now - despite all the dubious explanations and dodgings, I don't see how those things can be okay while lesser things are disciplined with warnings and suspensions, with any explanation other than the one already given us by a resmod: It depends on how many people, and which people, submit the AR's, in addition the the mods' and the resmods' own feelings.

coco

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From the mouth of God as it were. That good enough for you then?

I reported them also. They deserved to be reported. Edit: I agree with this post.

What really appears to have put both your knickers in knots is you aren't happy with the form and nature of sanction taken in that case, not that there wasn't one, just it wasn't severe enough for your tastes. In fact as much as you both go on about that particular poster one might assume that nothing short of a full on suspension/permaban would sate your bruised egos that he used 'teh' naughty words.

I agree with you, the inconsistency really blows. However, I was referring to just the use of profanity in regards to discipline (at least I meant to, I do get distracted very easily with two little ones running around).

This is not new.

I had Catherine Cotton swear at me repeatedly, and she was not was disciplined for it.

The only reasons I was given that it was ok, were from OTHER PLAYERS - you, saying she was pushed to that point, and Selador, who claimed that it was because she is female, and I a male. I was called a "piece of shit", a "fooking moron", and told "fuck your opinions" (multiple times) which I reported, yet Catherine was never disciplined - in fact, she got off scott free.

(Yes, I've read she's "changed" now - that still doesn't change the fact that what you're complaining about has happened TO ME as well.)

So ya know, "don't chip ya nails" - it's always been inconsistent.

I received 2 threatening PMs last week - threatening all sorts of things, I reported them - still nothing on the blotter.

So - before you go making this the focus of a new "forum reform" campaign, and go running around screaming "FIC can swear at you and get away with it" - remember that the one constant here is inconsistency - FOR ALL OF US.

I appreciate the link to this most interesting post. My position remains unchanged: its unacceptable to apply forum rules, written or otherwise, inconsistently and unevenly -- showing favor to some participants and disdain for others.

Then you missed the entire point of this thread being about consistancy. This was an example in that context only.

Well said.

Actually, the original thread had nothing to do with consistancy. Eboni's original post quotes Jeska's announcement and asks why there was no community discussion about it. In fact there is both a thread asking for feedback, and a monthly meeting to discuss community issues.

Regards,

-Flip

"entire point of this thread " not OP. Many times OP's have nothing to do with the content of the thread Flip.

Thats great go discuss it in your thread.

Neatly tucked away where no one reads.


When they really want the community to know about something they post in general or they make an announcement when residents logged in. They don't want community feedback or if they had listened to any of it this program would be halted not moving forward.


The original point is this thread was "the ResMod Program Sucks", but I decided against that thread title.

Derailing a thread doesn't make it valid.

I really hope your kidding. A lot of discussion start as one thing and end up as something entirly different. Guess you better go check them all if your going to start picking at this one.

Either that or get a resmod to send it to review. Your choice.

I'm not a resmod or a mod. I'm under absolutely no obligation whatsoever to be consistant.

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And even if a thread does morph, that's not the "entire point" of the thread, as you suggest.

I find myself wondering if what I see is the appearance of another red herring ....

Nope. Not the appearance of one It's a two-year-old rotting one, if anything.

Really? Personally I'm quite in favour of the thought of empowering the community to moderate itself, through officially appointed individuals.

Just because *some* are against, it doesn't mean *all* are.

I can't help but wonder whether some of those whining against the ResMod programme are only doing so because either a) they weren't invited, or b) they are upset over having posts removed for reasons they don't feel are valid.

Having moderated another very busy game forum, I'd be quite happy - and qualified - to take my turn if asked. It should be considered an honour to be chosen - not something for people to complain about.

People also forget something very important.... if people didn't break the rules in the first place, they wouldn't be getting their posts modded!

Lewis

LOL..

Some folks need to get laid.

Sorry I can't tell who is who anymore. My mistake.

Dude, this is not middle school. If someone does not like something it is not because they are "jellis" it is because maybe it just sucks?

I personally believe it is unethical and possibly illegal for a corporation to have people working for the company, doing company work for free; especially when the people doing the work are paying customers. So, ResMods are a no go for me, on ethical grounds. I am sure a man with high morals such as you can understand someone standing behind their ethics.

What was revealed today has definatly swayed my way of thinking on the Res Mod program. Honestly I think its a BLEEPING joke now.