Did Anyone Read This? Res Mods Phase 2
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Eboni Khan
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02-14-2006 10:01
/3/a5/88143/1.html#post893028From: someone We’re happy to announce that we are entering the next phase of the ResMod forum experiment! In collaboration with the first members of the ResMod team, we have gathered feedback and helped create an action plan for the continuing evolution of the group. We will continue to accept applications and add them on an ongoing basis (volunteer here ), please keep in mind that the number one goal of the ResMod program is to put residents in a leadership position where they can help define and shape a strong, positive forum community.
Please post any of your feedback here , as we hope to continue to refine and the process to best compliment the Second Life Community as a whole. To help with this, we will soon be holding an in-world discussion about how the ResMod program is going so far, please watch the Announcement Forums for more information.
Next Steps for ResMod Program
1. All current ResMods who have performed will have the option to stay on for 2 more weeks or leave – they will also have the option to either be placed back into the overall pool of ResMods for later rotation into the active pool or leave the program all together.
2. Today, LL will add approx. 5-6 new ResMods into the “training pool” – this will give them access to the ResMod forum, but not to the moderation tools for a week. During this week, they will be paired with another ResMod already in the pool for ramping up and training. (The newly accepted volunteers will be notified shortly!)
3. After the training week, the new ResMods will be put into rotation for 2 weeks, with full moderation tool access.
4. A week later, the older ResMods will rotate out (after a total of four weeks) for at least 2 weeks and later rotate back into the pool – during the initial ramp-up of the program, we may ask the original ResMods back into the pool sooner than 2 weeks!
5. In the future, ResMods may find themselves drawn to certain discussion subforums that they prefer for moderation during their time in the rotation pool. For example, if one ResMods prefers to moderate the Land and Economy forum, they will be able to spend most of their time moderating there. We will adapt the program as it grows to allow for this type of behavior.
6. During this entire process, ResMods will contribute to a “Best Practice” tips and tools thread in the ResMod forum in an effort to build up institutional knowledge for all volunteers. These practices will also be posted in the Volunteer Wiki (currently being developed by several Second Life Volunteers - in progress ), for viewing and feedback by the entire community. All of these Best Practices must follow the Community Standards and LL of course reserves the right to make all final decisions.
7. Repeat above for creation of fantastic ResMod team!
More information on the ResMod program here, initial announcement here.
Why not hold a community discussion before going to phase II?
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Travis Lambert
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02-14-2006 10:25
Because the drama server is hanging by a thread as it is. Another round of ResMod discussion threads might make the CPU catch fire. 
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FlipperPA Peregrine
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02-14-2006 10:28
What would you call this? /274/49/88141/1.htmlkthxbye
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Eboni Khan
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02-14-2006 10:30
I don't read that forum since I don't work for LL for free. Next. You have become almost as big of a jerk as Hiro and that is saying a lot. The topic should be discussed in general since it affects the whole community. |
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FlipperPA Peregrine
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02-14-2006 10:38
From: Eboni Khan I don't read that forum since I don't work for LL for free. Next.
You have become almost as big of a jerk as Hiro and that is saying a lot.
The topic should be discussed in general since it affects the whole community. Wow, someone struck a nerve! Just cause you got caught trolling (as usual) and can't be troubled to check out a thread that is in its proper topic isn't my fault. Oh but wait... that wouldn't cause as much drama, now, would it? Its one thing to troll every now and then for a little fun, but this is constant from you and you're not funny like some of the others. Also, that forum is called "SL Volunteers AND Education." I don't see where it says, "SL Employees Only" anywhere in there, but then again, you like to translate what people say pretty creativity and put words in their mouth on a consistent basis, so I'm not surprised. -9999999999999999999999 points. In addition, anyone could have given their input here: /3/8f/84479/1.htmlIf you can't be bothered to click that link, its in ANNOUNCEMENTS and invites ANY RESIDENT to attend the Community Team's round table in world. YAY! This record seems to be skipping... Regards, -Flip
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02-14-2006 10:44
From: FlipperPA Peregrine If you can't be bothered to click that link, its in ANNOUNCEMENTS and invites ANY RESIDENT to attend the Community Team's round table in world. YAY! It's always the same, people whine that they don't have a chance to have an input, yet when there is one, they whine they didn't see it. Lewis |
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02-14-2006 10:48
From: Lewis Nerd It's always the same, people whine that they don't have a chance to have an input, yet when there is one, they whine they didn't see it.
Lewis This is too true; I've always found the Lindens to be profoundly good listeners to all kinds of people, but let's not let that get in the way of a rant! I like the justification of how its not the fault of the person who can't be bothered to even use the simply "search" function for the term "resmod" or "moderator", hehehehe. Regards, -Flip
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Lewis Nerd
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02-14-2006 10:52
From: Eboni Khan I don't read that forum since I don't work for LL for free. Next. You'll find all the application procedures in the appropriate forums. I'm sure you have plenty of experience that LL can use. I can't afford big land or money giveaways, so I donate time as a Greeter to helping the community out and giving something back. Lewis |
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Gabe Lippmann
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02-14-2006 10:54
The communication needs work. No doubt about it. The tone of some of the naysayers might obscure this, but it remains so.
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Cocoanut Cookie
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02-14-2006 10:56
Apparently she struck a nerve in you, Flipper.
Yes, I saw that yesterday. And saw the place where you could discuss it.
But what's the point?
She might as well have labeled the announcement: "ResMods Phase Two - Full Speed Ahead Whether It's a Dumb Idea or Not."
Nothing has changed since the resmods have been here. They tried for a bit, then quickly (and understandably) shut up after coming under fire.
The personal attacks still continue unabated. Nothing is cleaned up. In fact, it's worse, ever since Jeska countermanded Robin's explanation with an explanation of her own. And even that isn't upheld.
The TOS is as totally meaningless as it was before. You can say anything that you like, and it will never be considered a personal attack, depending on who you are. Some people have a pass, and others don't - it's that simple. It's that insane. It's that arrogant.
TOS. Don't make me laugh. The resmods is just more false dressing on a non-existant system that exists only as an excuse to discipline residents when the Lindens want to.
So, like, I'm supposed to chip a nail over it?
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Aimee Weber
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02-14-2006 11:00
From: Lewis Nerd It's always the same, people whine that they don't have a chance to have an input, yet when there is one, they whine they didn't see it. Not me! I was "johnny all over it" with that thread. If anybody knows these here forums, it's teh Aimee |
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Cristiano Midnight
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02-14-2006 11:03
That is feedback after the decision was made, not before. I agree that more discussion should have occured - there was zero discussion about it in advance, and now the same thing as they move onto phase two.
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Cristiano Midnight
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02-14-2006 11:04
From: Cocoanut Cookie
She might as well have labeled the announcement: "ResMods Phase Two - Full Speed Ahead Whether It's a Dumb Idea or Not."
* wild applause *
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Lewis Nerd
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02-14-2006 11:10
From: Cristiano Midnight That is feedback after the decision was made, not before. ...... yet when I was expressing my displeasure at a particular group being bought into the game less than a week ago, I was told that such decisions don't need my - or any other user's - input as it's up to LL what to do. Does that still apply, making your complaint invalid - or does it merely end up as appropriate depending on the subject and your point of view on the matter? Lewis |
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Satchmo Prototype
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02-14-2006 11:12
This isn't a "Phase 2", as the original Resmod's were selected for 2 weeks, and there will be a pool of Resmod's rotated in and out.
The modifications to the system were in response to the fact that you really don't know how the community feels until you see all the AR's for a week or so. At first it's overwhelming and a lot of us jumped the gun. You slowly start to realize what is generally accepted and what irks one or two people everytime.
People jumped us in the first week, cause quite honestly we made some mistakes. After the first week it was easier to realize what threads are broadly offensive and which ones offend the same few.
These changes were all suggestions from the current resmods and others who contributed thoughts to the community team. None of the new procedures were ideas generated by Lindens themselves.
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Siggy Romulus
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02-14-2006 11:14
I guess the 'this sucks' feedback was filed in the circular cabinet 
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Cid Jacobs
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02-14-2006 11:16
From: Siggy Romulus I guess the 'this sucks' feedback was filed in the circular cabinet XD |
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Cristiano Midnight
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02-14-2006 11:17
From: Lewis Nerd ...... yet when I was expressing my displeasure at a particular group being bought into the game less than a week ago, I was told that such decisions don't need my - or any other user's - input as it's up to LL what to do.
Does that still apply, making your complaint invalid - or does it merely end up as appropriate depending on the subject and your point of view on the matter?
Lewis Who Linden Lab chooses to do business with, or the private details of their contracts is not subject to the input of customers. When LL is taking customers and putting them into a position of being able to affect the discliplinary status of other paying customers, while at the same time claiming quite strongly that paying customers would never be subjected to goverment by other customers, then you have them going against their own word and speaking out of both sides of their mouth. Most of the flack you got anyway was for your intolerance, not for expressing the opinion that making an agreement with a porn site was not a great idea.
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02-14-2006 11:25
From: Eboni Khan You have become almost as big of a jerk as Hiro and that is saying a lot. *snort* |
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Lucifer Baphomet
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02-14-2006 11:26
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02-14-2006 11:31
From: Cristiano Midnight When LL is taking customers and putting them into a position of being able to affect the discliplinary status of other paying customers, while at the same time claiming quite strongly that paying customers would never be subjected to goverment by other customers, then you have them going against their own word and speaking out of both sides of their mouth. Isn't being able to AR a post or person inworld exactly that already? I don't see a whole lot of difference since in either case, an RM action or a user ARing a post, no resident is the ultimate authority on any disciplinary matter but rather bringing it to LL's attention. In the case of the RMs, it seems to work the opposite way from creating tighter control, in that the impact RMs can have is to not move a thread for review by LL. While placing a thread for review is not much different than previous AR action would have resulted in. No RM is affecting anyone's disciplinary status as I understand it, unless you think bringing a reportable post to LL's attention is such. Has the moderation been significantly tighter than pre-RM moderation? If so, I haven't noticed. Either way, it does seem that people pick and choose when to use the "LL owns the whole shebang and can do what they want" stance. Better to say that LL asked for input (unlike the SG Incident of Aught Six), but seems to have done it in a way that the input is coming too late to impact the next phase. Another reactionary policy making situation.
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Lecktor Hannibal
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02-14-2006 11:32
I'm so glad this has been resurrected. Here I thought it had died down. Not to worry though, please see this thread.
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Martin Magpie
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02-14-2006 11:33
From: Satchmo Prototype This isn't a "Phase 2", as the original Resmod's were selected for 2 weeks, and there will be a pool of Resmod's rotated in and out.
The modifications to the system were in response to the fact that you really don't know how the community feels until you see all the AR's for a week or so. At first it's overwhelming and a lot of us jumped the gun. You slowly start to realize what is generally accepted and what irks one or two people everytime.
People jumped us in the first week, cause quite honestly we made some mistakes. After the first week it was easier to realize what threads are broadly offensive and which ones offend the same few.
These changes were all suggestions from the current resmods and others who contributed thoughts to the community team. None of the new procedures were ideas generated by Lindens themselves. I gotta ask something here, you said "You slowly start to realize what is generally accepted and what irks one or two people everytime." Is it then generaly accepted in the ResMods PROGRAM that the policy is to then ignore those one or two ppl? That's the impression I get from the way you put it. EDIT TO ADD - I thought that the resmods didn't know who was filing the AR reports. Cat |
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Joy Honey
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02-14-2006 11:42
From: Martin Magpie <snip>
I thought that the resmods didn't know who was filing the AR reports.
Cat I'm guessing it's pretty easy to guess who is filing ARs just based on their writing style?
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02-14-2006 11:51
From: Martin Magpie I gotta ask something here, you said "You slowly start to realize what is generally accepted and what irks one or two people everytime."
Is it then generaly accepted in the ResMods PROGRAM that the policy is to then ignore those one or two ppl? That's the impression I get from the way you put it.
EDIT TO ADD - I thought that the resmods didn't know who was filing the AR reports.
Cat Ummm good questions
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