Acceptance, letting go and moving on.

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I don't know about the rest of you but personally I think it's time to accept this change and move on. I don't want to waste more negative energy on this topic. M Linden pretty much summed it. If you think about it, 125 USD is not really so bad and I'll explain why.. when we had only 1800 prims and low usage, we were happy to pay 75 USD..then they doubled the prims.. that was sorta a preparation for the envitable..price increase. 125 is comparable to when it was only 75 for half the prims.. so now the prims are doubled as is usage.. is normal should be more.

The extra you are paying for always was about space. Some prefer prims and others prefer space. As for myself, I prefer space.

I do feel they should bring the original void sim packages back.. 4 for one and with original prim allotment for the people who want to use them for terrain purposes.

I also feel that they should wave the costs to convert OS to regular prim islands. That is only fair.

It would still be nice to have a grandfathered price but I don't see this happening. They learned their lesson from the past and we just need to accept this.

Am I happy? No. Could they have chosen a better time to do this and a better approach? Absolutely. Do I feel the reasons they used was a smokescreen.. you bet!

I am tired of seeing the community of SL war torn. It's hard to focus when the grid is turned inside out. Time to move on and have fun. Time to get back to the normal routine of every day virtual life of prim shoes, flexi hair, adult animations, sculpties, building, textures, commerce, education, romance, roleplay, furries and well the list goes on and on.

Yeah we fought a good fight and it was not in vain, I assure you. Then there comes a time when you need to set the cannons aside and use that iron for other things. *hugs*

Stepping off my soap box and running for cover.

pay that much money on a few prim when you can have a full sim with 45000 prim in ol? they are ripping everyone off and you want ppl to settle? first it was uping the pricing on openspaces then they did away with sim pricing for non profit groups. really do you think that the doubling of prim on a os was really leading to this? i think they felt they can take from their customer because they have a monopoly well there is no monopoly when you have ol as apposed to sl.

2400 have migrated already and why wouldn't they it will soon be another sl and right now it's virgin so you can do heaps there

I hear what you're saying and I have been to those other worlds too.. it's just too underdeveloped to enjoy. Do you really think it will be any different there than it is here once their grid starts filling up? No.

Virtual worlds are explanding and will continue to do so. Second Life is not teh first nor shall it be the last. However, Second Life is a great platform and has a long strong future in virturality.

My Hat is tipped to you. Takes alot of courage to step back from the fracus.

I myself think the real tragedy in all this is how its turned one resident against another. I lost count of how many times I have seen someone trounced hard for voicing their opinion when someone else didn't feel they had a right to have an opinion.

Its owners vs renters
mainlanders vs owners
former owners vs current owners
the list goes on and on

every one of them thinking they are the only ones with a right to be hurt, angry, upset or just flat outraged.

As has been pointed out many times over the last couple of days the repercussions of all this will impact the entire grid. Its time to take a breath and step back from it all for awhile.

..by that surely you mean roll over and die because that's exactly what's going to happen to many of Second Life's residents and business's.

Then those of us who are left can all prepare for the next big announcement..Linden Lab doubles the Full Sim Tier, don't kid yourself that one isn't coming..after all they were decent enough to half the purchase price.

Perre..

offended by are the lindens i have an open sim, i have my home on it and a very small business i have a total traffic count of 12 at most times why should i be penialized? i did not go over their recommendations it is light use but i will have my teir raised drastically becasue some ppl abuse the system? i say punish the abusers and let the ones that don't abuse remain at the same teir level. only thing is it's not about the abuse of anyone on an open sim it's about profit margins or why would they cut out the non profits? and why not just have open water areas for 10$ per month like they do on ol? it may be immature now and yes prices may go up but at least it is a fair amount of land and prim for a fair price. this corp has become greedy. so this is how they handle the greed. as soon as a company become publicly owned they have board members and they will bend you over to get what they want. ol! here i come and i am bring all my friends!

Yes I couldn't agree more. After spending the day crying because I was hugely attacked in the SL Herald, even my voice being recorded illegally inworld without my consent and authorization only to be published by the Herald.. that's when I thought to myself.. enough is enough! This is not worth it... people turning into evil creatures from the blue lagoon.. hurting people in real life. So Sad. Furthermore, I do not approve of the protests and other means of forceful pressure. Folks, whether you realize this or not, this is effecting our already fragile economy more so. So time to pack it up and move on and get the grid back to normal again.. oh should I say the normal abnormal?

Second Life will not roll over and die. 125 USD a month is actually not an unreasonable price.

It's good that you aren't upset and stressed out over this anymore, but resigned acceptance sends the wrong message to Linden Lab imho. There is still hope that the old price will be grandfathered for some time after all, or that the new price will be "reduced" to somewhere close to $100. This won't happen though if OS sim owners shrug it off and accept this price hike.

I think he meant the regular sims, doubling from $300 a month, to $600. Right now, those sims are so expensive, that any sort of increase is unreasonable. And these days, I don't trust LL enough to not do it.

Linden Lab would not double the current prices . I seriously doubt we can expect to see any price increase after this for a long time, if ever.

125 USD a month is acceptable given the space and prims.. plus now higher performace too.

What we need are the original void sims back also as an added option for those who use them for terrain purposes. However, those should not be grid wide as the higher priced ones are.

The costs need to be waved for a limited time to convert OS to full prim islands.

I wasn't referring to Second Life when I wrote that...I was referring to you..me..and all the other residents of Second Life who Linden Labs are screwing for every penny they can get. You're right though, Second Life won't roll over and die it will happily carry on but with ever increasing charges being applied by Linden Labs..why, because the residents that are left will simply shrug their shoulders and say "yes..I'll pay that, because I just want to let go and move on."

Perre..

Not "it". It has a name: Jack Linden. He is the one who turned the residents against each other, purposefully so, by stating that the price hike was due to the "abuse" of resources done by some sim owners. It's an old political instrument, divide et impera. If the residents are busy fighting one another, they won't stand together against an oppressive administration.

And let's be honest, those who cheer for LL's decision while attacking those affected by it don't voice their opinion, they're simply satisfying their trolling needs. hat gets me though are OS sim owners who accuse otherowners / renters for ruining things for them, as if the supposed sim overusage really had anything to do with the price hike.

Nor will we ever see anything getting cheaper, despite the constantly decreasing hardware and bandwith costs. Not until there's a viable alternative to SL, at which point the tier for a full sim will likely drop to a realistic $50 per month.

There are no Abusers. This is about LL seeing a very popular product and wanting to make more money from it. Its all about money. Jack gave us no anwsers today hes just working damage control now. Charge us more money that will fix the server problem. Do these servers have money slots in them that they have to feed.

If I really felt that the price was unacceptable and I do not.. my problem all along wasn't so much the price.. but yeah, the time they chose to deliver it and how they approached us with the psuedo reasons as to why.. really infuriated me.

The price actually lines up with what the OP sims were before they doubled the prims.

No company makes this big of a mistake. They knew that OS sims - with no oversight - would be used in such a manner. What their weird leadership decided was to let it reach critical mass and then hike the price and see who bites. They figured the got everyone to promote this new product and invest in it - and then they would cash in on it.

Saying that no technician at Linden Lab could foresee this problem and act to keep us from getting to this place is outrageous. Allowing this to reach critical mass and then pass the costs onto their customers is a despicable act.

Yes, it sucks to be attacked for having a different opinion. I commend you for stepping forward and voicing your change of heart here in the forums.

I doubt it was a mistake. I'm sure all along they had a plan.. anyway.. sometimes in life you just got to bite the bullet and this is one of those times.

Visit the BEAM Automotive sim. 87 avs in sim right now, all campers. You can't fly up to the camp farm, but you can TP in about 1000m up and look down at the mass of dots. Unfreaking believable. Sim owner claims on his profile to be a lawyer too.

What higher performance is this then? They haven't even started to tell you whether you are abusing your sim. Good luck with that. Nobody has mentioned higher performance yet, indeed quite the opposite.

How is that any different from 4096 sqm mainland parcels packed with campers? It has always been the case in SL that some resource hogs lag everyone else. That's no excuse for a price increase though, only a reason for LL to think about enforcing sensible agent limits based on sim type or parcel size.

They don't need more performance. They already are more performant than mainland plots with the same prim count, i.e. 1/4 mainland sim, since someone standing in an OS sim doesn't have to render the content of neighbouring parcels and adjacent sims.

OS sims work great for residential purposes. I live in one. Every now and then I walk on the spot for a second, but I have the same problem in my commercially used full region as soon as 20 customers are around. Not to speak of the mainland lagfest.

That being said, I can see that OS sims are worth more than 1/4 mainland sim which is currently also priced at $75. Perhaps $90 monthly, certainly not $125 though. And of course the tier for existing OS sims should be grandfathered. I've bought my 2 sims after the prim count was increased, I didn't even know that void sims had less prims before. So I won't get any additional value for paying an extra $117 incl. VAT monthly.

I think the real issues were nothing more than a smokescreen and not to do with resource abuse. Higher performance means the OP sims will be switched to class 5 sims.

They already are class 5 sims. All recently purchased OS sims have been on class 5 servers. So for everyone who bought void or OS sims since LL switched to class 5 servers and raised the private island tier to $295, that's just another smokescreen.