Openspace Announcement Discussion with Jack Linden

LL got through the threats and ridicules by people who had full sims when they upped the price by $100 USD. I don`t think they really care about people who are/were on openspace sims.

Plus, I think they`re lying to us.

Thank you Katt for meeting us some of us region holders in world. We appreciate your time to hear our opinions and will await your answers.

Renee Faulds

This is the right tactic to take. Too many rip-off artists selling newbies openspace parcels only for the newbies to find out they didn’t get what they wanted (L A G) and the “estate manager/owner” raking in the cash at the newbies expense. Abuse the privilege, pay the consequences. The complainers have nobody to play the blame game at except the abusers of the system, not Linden Lab, not Jack.

While Iagree that those eho have been abusing the Open Spaces SHOULD be dealt with - why also penalise those of us - THE MAJORITY - who do the right thing??? It seems this is MORE about LLs money making strategies than the purported abuse - VERY poor business practice and highly disappointing. I think this is a decision LL will seriously come to regret.

Why not vote with our feet or our "mice so to speak" And have the GREAT GRID LOG OFF.

If everyone who is mad and upset with this situation where to log off for a day or an hour,the same hour same day that would get attention.

We do that in some cities to protest the cost of gas. No one buys gas that day.

Or no one use Linden Exchange that day.

I think it will be hard to get everyone to log off same day same time but if enough people did it could make a difference.

We could spread the word to each of our groups and pick a day this weekend or next week. Even if we did it every weekend which is highest usage..

Like" HIGH NOON"--- LOG OFF CLICK OFF.

Who is in?

for those of you complaining, you should have known that second life can change anything they want to change as it is there business. it is your right to not be here any more. this is good because so many of the sim owners are buying up huge amounts of these sims and selling them to people that have no idea they will lag out which to me is disinformation to begin with. those of us who have been buying full sims and obeying the terms second life has given us are not going to get hurt at all. those with 65000 sq and 3750 prim should pay more than a full parcel of 3750 prim. those of you who have hundreds of these "open space" sims are going to have to eat the new cost which was a bad business decision in the first place. its about time i dont have to compare prices on my 3750 prim parcel to a 65000 sq parcel with the same amount of prim.

Very well put, Sylvia. I represent one of the smaller estates which has already died, although I feel proud that I arranged to sell (at a price of ZERO) my two full sims to groups of landowner-residents there so they could keep their homes, and sold my 4 OS sims to a fellow estate owner who has been still trying to make a go of it, but will likely die now.

With their actions over the last few months, LL has clearly stated to anyone with an ounce of sense that (unfortunately) its totally foolhardy to try to build a business within SL. Any business, to be successful, has to have a solid business plan as a foundation. Any good business plan requires baseline assumptions to be made, and requires that there be a certain amount of stability upon which to base those assumptions. After lowering the price of private islands from $1675 to $1000 and instantly wiping out 40% of estate owners' equity, they then doubled the prims, lowered the prices and relaxed the rules for OS sims, which further eroded the equity in full sims. Estate owners tried to adjust and follow the market changes which LL forced upon them, by migrating to models based much more around OS sims rather than full sims, because LL had made them so much more attractive to the market.

Now, once again, LL with one simple blog announcement, once again blasts huge holes in those carefully thought out and implemented business plans.

At this point, I'm glad that my estate, which I had well-developed growth plans for, has already disappeared - and my annual payments to LL have dropped from over $10,000 to zero. Linden Lab, I've heard you loud and clear. I will never again be so stupid and shortsighted as to attempt to plan, invest and try to build a business within SL. You've made it clear too many times now, that you have no qualms whatsoever of blasting those carefully planned businesses out of the water without so much as a second thought.

Sylvia and others in your position, you have my sympathies.

Wow. I paid for an OpenSpace Sim in August, and I currently have a few *hundred* prims on it. I've averaged... 0 to 2 avatars on it. A Day. I've spiked to a half-dozen. And that's JUST fine for what I want it to be and what I planned.

Now suddenly, the up-front investments that I made (expecting to 'spread out' this cost out over the next year to 18 months since I planned to be in the space for that long) along with the money I've spent buying items for the open space (low-prim but high cost) are going to be 'thrown away' if I give it up, since Linden Labs is now suddenly going to extort 66% more per month! Not even a 'short' grandfather period for some of us to figure out what to do, sell items, etc. 2 months notice. Amazing.

In 12 months, I'd have spent $250 + (12*75) = $1150
In 18 months, this would have been $1600

In both cases, you'd add in the various money invested in items, etc.

Now, I'm looking at 8 or 14 months at $50 more per month for an extra outlay of $400 to $700 for that same period, with *absolutely* no change in 'value'.

I've been to several SL conferences, to meet other people from in-world and to generally 'show support' for the concept, as well as to spend time w/ various Lindens and let them know what 'the community members' think. I can say quite clearly that if these are the types of decisions we're seeing after the speeches at the latest SLCC, I won't spend any more of my money to 'come support LL'.

Outside of Second Life, I've started and run successful businesses. I've always been aware of how clients consider the value of a product or a service, and to keep in mind the value *I* get from my clients, in goodwill and word of mouth. I've never treated clients this way, and I think that reading the posts in these articles will be a helpful reminder to me of why to make sure I keep it that way!

I'm washing my hands of spending money in SL for anything that goes to LL's pockets. My Premium account has been made worthless, my items have disappeared and become worthless, the Island project I worked on was made worthless by LL's constant tinkering with land prices, and now my personal openspaces sim that was used completely within the bounds of the system has been made worthless.

I'll be in world, tipping artists and musicians, but from this point on I'm watching for the 'next' good virtual world.

for those of you complaining, you should have known that second life can change anything they want to change as it is there business. it is your right to not be here any more. this is good because so many of the sim owners are buying up huge amounts of these sims and selling them to people that have no idea they will lag out which to me is disinformation to begin with. those of us who have been buying full sims and obeying the terms second life has given us are not going to get hurt at all. those with 65000 sq and 3750 prim should pay more than a full parcel of 3750 prim. those of you who have hundreds of these "open space" sims are going to have to eat the new cost which was a bad business decision in the first place. its about time i dont have to compare prices on my 3750 prim parcel to a 65000 sq parcel with the same amount of prim.

Why not vote with our feet or our "mice so to speak" And have the GREAT GRID LOG OFF.

If everyone who is mad and upset with this situation where to log off for a day or an hour,the same hour same day that would get attention.

We do that in some cities to protest the cost of gas. No one buys gas that day.

Or no one use Linden Exchange that day.

I think it will be hard to get everyone to log off same day same time but if enough people did it could make a difference.

We could spread the word to each of our groups and pick a day this weekend or next week. Even if we did it every weekend which is highest usage..

Like" HIGH NOON"--- LOG OFF CLICK OFF.

Who is in?--this was by my friend contact me in world or via email lets do it!

We believe in Openspaces as a product, but the pricing just wasn't in line with how they are now being used. Just to be clear, this isn't a small minority of Openspaces either, as a general rule they are much more heavily loaded than, for example, the equivalent Linden voids.