Xstreet SL and OnRez to Join Linden Lab!
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Satir DeCuir
Registered User
Join date: 12 Jun 2007
Posts: 14
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01-21-2009 15:33
How dare this guy come here and post a link to his ripped-off website!
And what about the inworld stolen content, and also the full perm stolen content in xstreet? DMCAs cant keep track of all the stolen stuff that grows every day. It's exponential. Please let us know something is going to be done about this... we just saw an exemple of what happens. We need a zero tolerance for this kind of thing!
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JubJub Forder
Registered User
Join date: 20 Apr 2007
Posts: 80
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01-21-2009 15:34
Let me test their anticompetitive behaviour... no abuse..no swearing
Encourage competition and show LL your dismay... enrol at APez now
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Jazzman Jibilla
Registered User
Join date: 19 Jan 2007
Posts: 12
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01-21-2009 15:42
From: Grant Linden ... "Some Residents have been banned from Xstreet. Will Linden Lab reactivate those accounts?" We are looking into this issue and we are going to be getting back to residents on this. ... Thank you for that answer.
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Raynor Hammerer
Linguistic Rabbit
Join date: 21 Feb 2007
Posts: 404
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01-21-2009 15:46
From: Alyx Sands Not even if I beg....?  And she's not begging often, I can tell you ...
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Miko Omegamu
Registered User
Join date: 13 Mar 2006
Posts: 2
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01-21-2009 15:46
From: FlipperPA Peregrine It would literally only take a few hours to write the necessary script to export all the the OnRez data - accounts, transactions, items, images, account settings, and so on - all to XStreet automatically. The fact that Linden Lab is asking content creators to spend thousands upon thousands of person-hours to do this as a tedious, manual process blows my mind. ... I could go on, but as someone intimately familiar with the underlying database, and the technology required in general, it really does blow my mind that Linden Lab are not stepping up to the plate to take care of OnRez users. It is one thing to flush the many features people like - but ridiculous not to migrate years and years of data, which will only make the resulting XStreet product that much better.
This is the root of the problem for me, and really sends the message that customer time and effort is of no concern whatsoever. I'm sure between the folks at onrez and slex they could have come up with SOMETHING that would migrate the data over, the fact that they didn't even consider this as a simply courtesy to existing onrez users just says "Suck it. Move it or don't, we don't care." Can you just hire Flipper for a couple days to take care of this for you? 
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Bazil Raymaker
Registered User
Join date: 18 Oct 2008
Posts: 1
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Venders
01-21-2009 15:48
Hi, Will XStreet be providing the same type of venders as OnRez do now, and will they be modifiable so that we can edit them to our own purposes and designs?
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Matteo Harris
Sweet's Loving Hubby
Join date: 31 Mar 2006
Posts: 207
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01-21-2009 15:54
From: Bazil Raymaker Hi, Will XStreet be providing the same type of venders as OnRez do now, and will they be modifiable so that we can edit them to our own purposes and designs? No they covered that, those of us who worked our asses off with Onrez are SOL
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Thamala Aabye
Registered User
Join date: 4 Apr 2007
Posts: 1
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01-21-2009 16:02
From: JubJub Forder Let me test their anticompetitive behaviour... no abuse..no swearing
Encourage competition and show LL your dismay... enrol at APez now enrolled as soon as I heard. LL will still never get a cent from me beyond the $30L show in search fee i cannot avoid.
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Olivia Smythe
Registered User
Join date: 20 Feb 2008
Posts: 1
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dont change a thing
01-21-2009 16:03
oh please i know you try to keep up on the latest things in the world but for gawds sake dont change xstreet aka slexchange too much i really really think it works perfect as is before any extreme mods happen to it just leave it as it is before making radical changes that kill the site for most of sl residents
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Baja Boa
Registered User
Join date: 31 Mar 2007
Posts: 3
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Don't Integrate Search!
01-21-2009 16:03
SL's inworld search flat-out sucks. Integrating that useless excuse for a search engine will make SLX useless, as each search will throw up on the screen an un-ordered, illogical mass of hits that may or may not have anything to do with the search. Please please please do not infect SLX search with SL's screwy engine. Unless you're trying to wreck SLX. In which case that would do it.
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Maggie Morgan
The Fish Lady
Join date: 26 Mar 2004
Posts: 97
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01-21-2009 16:07
Bigger Market Share. I am sorry I misread, ignore my comment please. From: Kely Streeter I'm guessing this is why they are going with Street not Onrez.
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Raymond Nightfire
Known reverse engineer
Join date: 5 Nov 2007
Posts: 51
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Things that must remain for this merger
01-21-2009 16:07
I used both sites for my items and liked several features XStreet: The item template system, you can make a template of item types for easy adding of new things On_Rez: Smooth keyword/merchant searches The On_Rez wallet, no need to hunt down kiosks Multi item adjustments, being able to modify more than one thing at a time No commissions* The self networking, low prim, easy to use, free vendor system *I have low priced items, so the commission with my XStreet items was not much, but it was a nuisance
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Jazmina Firefly
Firecat Designs Co-Owner
Join date: 3 Aug 2004
Posts: 37
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01-21-2009 16:08
From: VictoriaRose Daniels I have accessed my OnRez account today only to find it borked... the new header that proudly announces the monopolization of our treasured services has bumped everything down so that we can no longer see or withdraw our funds from the header bar. Anyone know another way of doing it? [found it & withdrawn...thank you for your help] not sure how you did it but afew people that i know used firefox instead of ie to access it and they were able to get to the withdraw option
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Lanita Wingtips
Registered User
Join date: 8 Dec 2007
Posts: 9
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01-21-2009 16:10
Safari could not open the page “ http://shop.onrez.com/user/withdraw/” because the server is not responding. Being a bit sarcastic here, but that is exactly the quality of service I've learned to expect from LindenLabs.
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Medhue Simoni
Registered User
Join date: 10 Mar 2007
Posts: 102
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01-21-2009 16:16
From: Colossus Linden Hi Torin Talamasca, Thanks for your informative questions.
Our Desire is to give our merchants and users the best experience possible. We don't have immediate plans to change how depositing USD via paypal and withdrawing USD via paypal for Xstreet works. I believe that there are two sides to the equation that we need to keep in balance here: speed of transaction and security of transaction. We won't ever introduce a delay for no reason. However, we will monitor fraud levels and other security concerns and will introduce a delay if security concerns require it. There are not plans to do so right now and we will alert our users to any planned change.
Torrin, there is no shame in having an adult oriented business. This is part of the ecosystem and we intend to support it. As long as you flag your adult items for listing in the adult section, business should continue as usual. What we will do our best not to allow is for adult oriented items to be listed in our general section where youths or professionals may come across them while expecting a family friendly or business oriented experience. So, the adult related policies which Xstreet has will stand for now and we'll refine those as we learn more about what our shoppers and merchants desire for an optimal experience.
Good luck in your business. I hope you sell a lot of items in the coming weeks as we send a plethora of new shoppers into Xstreet. --Colossus Security, really! There are many of us that pull money out on a regular basis. So you are telling us that everytime we do, you have to check to see if we are on the level. No wonder things get so backed up. Most of us are open books. Our withdrawals are not anomilies, they happen regularly. This would not be the case for some1 who is dishonestly scamming the system. Why cant you simply confirm us as legit in the beginning and then you could concentrate on the real security risk people?
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Contessa Esposito
Registered User
Join date: 27 Feb 2007
Posts: 8
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01-21-2009 16:20
From: Nuala Shippe In addition to the custom vendor feature that has already been requested multiple times, there are a couple of features from OnRez that I would love to see added to XStreet:
- all reviews are signed, including simple star ratings, and all ratings are added to the star rating average. Currently there is no way for vendors on XStreet to judge if a low rating is due to an upset customer or someone greifing the ratings unless the customer adds a written review (which the system doesn't encourage since written reviews aren't added to the star average unless you make a simple star rating vote first, then add your review). Similarly, customers can't tell the source of ratings. Signed ratings would give them more context.
I also like the way Onrez does their rating systems I would like to see xstreet impliment a better rating system.
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Siggy Romulus
DILLIGAF
Join date: 22 Sep 2003
Posts: 5,711
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01-21-2009 16:23
From: MenuBar Memorial Let's all work together to make Second Life one of the changes that makes Real Life a better place for all, and usher in a new era of togetherness and caring for all of our brothers and sisters worldwide.
Can I have some of that Kool Aid?
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Eirynne Sieyes
PrimPlay Owner
Join date: 15 Oct 2005
Posts: 59
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01-21-2009 16:32
From: Satir DeCuir Hello T, Colossus and Grant,
LL bought a big responsability now over xstreet. This can work, and I hope it does, and yes I agree its just fair to pay for a quality service. But we hit the same mistake over and over: everyone knows SL and xstreet is flooded with stolen content, sold full perms, and the buyers sells it again and/or change a bit and resell. Original creators cant keep on with that, in 1 afternoon someone's alt sells 100 boxes of full perm skin templates of his skins. These 100 sells more 100, oh is it 10.000 people already? 10.000 dmcas? It is not working! PLEASE would someone be kind enough to tell me what improvements are going to be enforced in that subject, or if its going to stay the same?
"To whom much is given, much is required." — John F. Kennedy
Good luck! As a designer, I feel compelled to echo Satir's concern. With this new acqusition LL will be in a better position to help protect original content. T, Colussus, and Grant, Will you?
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Contessa Esposito
Registered User
Join date: 27 Feb 2007
Posts: 8
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01-21-2009 16:32
From: Marcus Perry
- OnRez looks better than XStreet, the site is much less crowded and "hectic".
- Add the OnRez Section of Freebies and make it easily accessible, like OnRez does with a click from the main page. While you are at it, you could do something that even OnRez has not done: make a seperate category for 0/1L demos and split it from the freebies. It annoys the hell out of me that demos are listed with freebies.
Agreed.
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Lance McCullough
Registered User
Join date: 1 Oct 2008
Posts: 1
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Sad
01-21-2009 16:32
Well all i can say is that I will not be listing any items is X Street, nor will I shop here any longer.
Currently with the way LL has been treating is residents in SL and the total lack of concern for the grid issues I have less then zero faith in them. They are all about making a buck while smooshing their boot into the faces of the residents... like they destroyed the grid I see SL Street suffering a similar destruction soon.
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Martin Magpie
Catherine Cotton
Join date: 13 Nov 2004
Posts: 1,826
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01-21-2009 16:50
From: Miko Omegamu ... Can you just hire Flipper for a couple days to take care of this for you?  Wha? He's not on the payroll?
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Murder Poe
Registered User
Join date: 10 Apr 2008
Posts: 5
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OnRez wallet
01-21-2009 16:52
please keep this feature  TPing to terminals sometimes is a nuisance... the wallet and vendors are the best features OnRez has to offer. would be a shame to lose those two.
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Tsuitengu Kuramoto
Registered User
Join date: 24 Apr 2007
Posts: 6
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01-21-2009 16:53
From: Moopf Murray you can be as unique as you like, it's not really going to go that far in gaining you traction. This was the hard fact that GOM faced when the Lindex was produced - you can't compete when the compeition has such a massive competitive advantage. Sorry Moopf, no offense, this is *NOT* a personal attack by any means. I respect you as a person and fellow resident.. but this kind of talk just reminds me of the majority of VC's in the valley with no sense of what's innovative in this Century and beyond. It's frustrating and stifles growth, the equivalent of saying 'well, why isn't the Goog or *Soft doing it?' Folks honestly, do we live on the same planet? You know the one with endless possibilities? Take those blinders off, open your eyes to the truth and use that brain. To those that want to roll those sleeves up and take on such a task, I implore you to step up to the plate and do your thing. Dance floors are always open to those who dare.
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Arkesh Baral
Ephemeral Creations
Join date: 18 Jul 2006
Posts: 70
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01-21-2009 16:56
From: Murder Poe please keep this feature  TPing to terminals sometimes is a nuisance... the wallet and vendors are the best features OnRez has to offer. would be a shame to lose those two. You need neither a wallet nor a terminal to deposit money to your XSL or OnRez accounts. Just pay L$ directly to the avatar Exchange Street to deposit to XSL, or to the avatar Commerce Leader to deposit to OnRez.
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Grant Linden
Administrator
Join date: 2 Jun 2008
Posts: 17
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I just checked in Safari and it looks fine - can anyone else replicate this?
01-21-2009 16:59
From: Lanita Wingtips Safari could not open the page “ http://shop.onrez.com/user/withdraw/” because the server is not responding. Being a bit sarcastic here, but that is exactly the quality of service I've learned to expect from LindenLabs. I can view this page in Safari Version 3.1.2 Is anyone else seeing this issue? Please clear your browser cache to flush out any CSS changes.
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