Xstreet SL and OnRez to Join Linden Lab!

So .. to ask a question that's been asked about 50 times and not answered ... will we have to suffer the same slow Lindex transfers to Paypal?

I kinda prefer the immedate transfers that we have on the Xstreet Exchange.

I have used SLExchange (Xstreetsl) increasingly since being inworld, and here's the reason:

THE GRID IS BORKED.

I guess in some imaginary. hypothetical gridworld you could just pop around to various malls, artist's studios and whatever in some analogue of firstlife shopping. Oh, it all seems very wonderful in a theoretical way.

But when you cannot teleport from place to place... when it takes 30-60 seconds or more for a single texture on a vendor to load... when you are liable to get logged off halfway through the rezzing of some megamall... when you move like glue or "spiderjump" or run in place...

It discourages you from shopping inworld. Since discovering SLX, i have shopped MORE and bought MORE items than i ever would have, given the current experience on the grid lately. It's much less stressful and more fun to sit in my own home and shop SLX rather than face the issues I mentioned above.

Maybe you should consider this as a PRIME issue when you think your theoretical thoughts about inworld sales and shopping. The main reason i shop SLX instead of inworld is because of the poor quality of experience i have had, slipping downwards in a steady slope on Second Life for the past 6 months.


PLEASE fix the browser texture-caching issue; it is ruining both experience and commerce in Second Life. And please get rid of the bots; if you need resident numbers, fixing the service would go a long way towards bringing real people back into SL with their real numbers and real dollars.

Respectfully,
Miso Susanowa

Apotheus's ENTIRE team is not coming over to Linden Lab.

<snippet>My question to Grant Linden was regarding whether the efficient Xstreet L$ exchange would be replaced by the inefficient Lindex . . . .thus far, no answer.</snippet>

We answerd this question in the Acquisition FAQs
https://support.secondlife.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=4417&task=knowledge&questionID=5809

Xstreet has a Linden Dollar exchange. What will happen to that exchange?

For the immediate future, the Xstreet SL Linden Dollar exchange will remain open and active with no changes. We will monitor activity and will temporarily disable the exchange if we see anything unexpected. Otherwise, we don't intend to make any long term decisions about the future of the Xstreet SL Linden Dollar exchange until we have learned some if its intricacies over the coming months. If necessary, we will make modifications to the Xstreet exchange as needed, but no modifications are currently planned.

I left Xstreet ages ago when it was still SLex and put all my stuff on onrez. Now I am just a small buisness but this may just make me give up entirely. The transition wont be smooth they never are! I want to know what is going to happen with my onrez vendors! If i have to go back to using the crappy vendors I had before that took hours to set up I will just close my shop!

@Grant Linden


What about users who have been banned or blocked from Xstreet and set up shop at ONREZ? How can they transfer over thier balances and products?

For more about this read post #823

Hello all fellow On-Rez and SLX(XStreet) whatever users.

I have been watching this string since 7:00 am EST - its now 5:00 pm.

I have seen many opinions from both sides.

It does scare my partner and I, who have a small business in SL, that we will get lost in the shuffle. We have put alot of time and $$$ into on-rez and I agree with a comment made earlier about reinvented the wheel. There is no logic in it.

When I was in the high tech industry we always ran a parellel system before bringing forth a new version or system. LL has now left us with no option of a vending system till they reinvent the wheel. So until such time that we have a vendor linkup we can only put up for sale in our shops what are prims limit us to. This is just lovely. Time to make our own inworld vendor and give to you all for free.

Its a very sad day in the SL small business world. We had hope, now we are dismayed.

I look foward to the round table in world discussion that Lindens says they will be having.

Hope we get told about them.

If you could incorporate vendors into XStreet SL, that would be great. It would also be nice to see a reporting function. I use SLST, Second Life Sales Tracker, which includes my XStreet sales, and also with a script includes my JEVN sales. How about a vendor that will sell what I put on XStreet in various locations and be compatible with the SLST (Second Life Sales Tracker) website, or build that functionality in? I love going to SLST and looking at my total sales by region, category, month, day, top 10 best selling items, and even a daily sales graph. It is a great SL business management tool. It is important to me to know which rented merchant stalls are producing and which ones are not, for rental fees are expensive.

I welcome this.

There have been questions about the 5 day delay that is part of withdrawing funds from a Second Life account and if we will be following that policy on Xstreet. We don't have immediate plans to change how depositing USD via paypal and withdrawing USD via paypal for Xstreet works. There are two sides to the equation that we need to keep in balance here: speed of transaction and security of transaction. We won't ever introduce a delay without a compelling reason. However, we will monitor fraud levels and other security concerns and will introduce a delay if security concerns require it. There are no plans to do so right now and we will alert our users to any planned change.

To the people who mannualy removed there account (not banned) on xstreet just email
them to reactivate your account : [email]support@xstreetsl.com[/email]

I did and they activated mine account again whitin a half hour!

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http://shop.onrez.com/Tweak_Serpente
http://slurl.com/secondlife/Lea/93/20/30

It is very cool to see this, but this does look like a bit of a kick in the crotch of OnRez users, many of whom supported me when I started the site as SLBoutique.

It would literally only take a few hours to write the necessary script to export all the the OnRez data - accounts, transactions, items, images, account settings, and so on - all to XStreet automatically. The fact that Linden Lab is asking content creators to spend thousands upon thousands of person-hours to do this as a tedious, manual process blows my mind.

If an avatar has an account with both services, avatar key could easily be used to combine the two accounts, ensuring that no duplicate items are entered by item name.

Balances could be transferred easily, by calling the XStreet deposit routine in the balance amount, then zeroing out the OnRez account.

I could go on, but as someone intimately familiar with the underlying database, and the technology required in general, it really does blow my mind that Linden Lab are not stepping up to the plate to take care of OnRez users. It is one thing to flush the many features people like - but ridiculous not to migrate years and years of data, which will only make the resulting XStreet product that much better.

Regardless - good luck!

Regards,

-Flip

PS - NO, I will not start another web-shopping site!

I agree that design matters, and we will be improving the design moving forward. Reliability and ease of use are also critical to both merchants and shoppers. Many Residents found Onrez to be more pleasing visually and that has not gone unnoticed. We will be raising the bar on the visual appearance of the Xstreet product as we integrate the site into the Second Life experience.

I AM SAD TO SEE ONREZ GO! You are FAR better then XSTREET!, your support is unmatched anyware on SL. as well your site was so user friendly and did not include any of the Drama blogs like xstreet does.

Your'e answe would be yes, just after midnight last nite unbeknoenst to me I made a transfer to paypal. They have already screwed the system up like everything else. My transfers on slx (xstreet) have always been near instant! , now its just sitting there pending...

Take responsibility! Can the Linden who made the following decisions step forward and claim ownership...

Who made the decision to buy a valid growing business just to close it? (On Rez)
Who decided to raise prices on the Opensims?

I suspect the same person, cause its the same corporate thinking... i also suspect that although the buck stops somewhere..that person will not step forward.

Whoever you are...your thinking is causing huge outrage. HUGE.
Your thinking is impacting on the very core aspects that made SL so successful.
If you think we don't see your plan to start a tax on item sales you underestimate how quickly we will flee.

Encourage competition..it makes your product smarter/faster/better.
Discourage Monopolies...it makes your product fat/lazy/expensive/arrogant... and opens gaps for competitors.

Thanks for the kind words, but I left long ago. I'll pass the kind words along to the current OnRez team, however - they're good peeps.

Maybe they know that's Where all the SL haters and Drama Experts shop

Well people... You have the Rezzor Shop

www.rezzor.com
www.rezzor.com
www.rezzor.com
www.rezzor.com


Try it.

ONLY SYSTEM WITH RESELLER VENDOR

I finally did find that answer in the FAQs and posted it in one of my responses here prior to your answer, but it helps even more to get a more direct answer from you, since you could see many users were wondering the same thing I was, and wanted a response to the issue in this forum. The answer is as clear as it can be, thanks for now.

For those of you already experiencing a lack of trust in the Xstreet L$ exchange. Get an apez.biz account, and sell your L$ there, it was pretty fast last time I used it.

This thread, like all of the others will follow the same Linden format. Grant will come along in a few days. Thank everyone for their feedback, ignore all the questions and close the thread. They are not interested in what we think, only what they can get.

One word though. NO FLASH! *thwaps you with rolled up newspaper*

No Flash.

Actually, I came up with a better idea.

Intergrating SLX/OnRez into the search window for Second Life. Allowing you to browse both websites in-world. Follows on from adding an SLX Terminal into the User Interface allowing for depositing/withdrawing without the need to teleport to somewhere in order to make a deposit.

Vote for if want: jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-11649

First question: the OnRez vendor is soooo simple to set up. Will Xsreet simplify its set up?

Second question: What will happen to the OnRez viewer?

Please dont make Xstreet like onrez, the search absolutely sucks over there.

For example I make a lot of custom particles and having to lump all items into 1 gadget category makes things hard to find.

Whereas Xstreet has way more categories and much much better search engine, from searching via merchant, their store, multiple stores in sub categories, by price/relevance/popularity is a much much better system.