Upcoming Changes for Adult Content: Motivations and Goals

To the person who suggested that University Professors should teach their classes on the Teen Grid, college students are usually over 18 and are, therefore, adults. It is just that many of them resist being required to go to classes in Red Light Districts...

I agree with the above 100%. I have experienced LL's raping of their long term customers first hand. I think LL needs to drop any talk of this proposal and go take a look at their governance team that hounds long term residents for minor infractions while overlooking land owners right next door shouting spam across the sim (Bear. i think LL will know who i am talking about) And if this proposal goes down and is enacted the first time I get banned for not wearing clothes in a PG or Mature area (as i understand it furrys who are kendolls can be naked all they want and in mature sims one would think, given LL's current definition of mature, a furry running around with the proper bits, anatomically correct that is, should be passable) I will be dropping my account and asking for a refund on the rest of the year i have already paid for.
All i see this proposal as is a way for LL's to either A. bow to a vocal minority of prudes without doing research to see how the majority of active SL users feel or B. integrate the teen grid into the main. if B is the real reason I for one will not only be downgrading my account but will be leaving SL completely and going back to Active Worlds and restarting my old world. I would have just as much chance of getting put in jail IRL where i in active worlds for talking to a kid online as i would in SL if this goes down. (for the record i hate kids and AR at the first hint they are not 1 I am not going to be labeled a sex offender because some kids mom saw my avatar running around anatomically correct.

let me clarify what i mean by running around anatomically correct. I am a nudist. I prefer not wearing clothes in IRL and SL but i also don't like being a ken doll. In mature areas my "twigs and berries" automatically appear but i don't run around randomly humping people with a big floppy penis. Its nude, not lewd.

Then they'd probably welcome a gleaming new no-sex continent to call their own.
It still makes no sense to dislocate the people that helped build this place to please the prudes. Let the prudes have their own prudeville instead.

Umm.. if people are "camming in" on their neighbors' private Mature *cough* I mean, "Adult" activities, then I would argue they are "opting in" to that content and, thus, have no reason to complain. Hence, they aren't part of the problem you are supposedly trying to solve.

Still waiting on that research data...

/me will bet you any reasonable amount of money you want that you'll never get it. It's just seems too horribly out of whack with reality.

Would these be the same students who crowd the Red Light District of Amsterdam during Spring Break?

Yeah, I know, but the rational part of me has to at least give them the benefit of the doubt that they are telling the truth and not blowing smoke up my tailhole.

It's all about that fair-play "give your opponent more credit than they give you" thing; at least, until they prove that their intentions were not honorable or respectful from the outset.

I still don't get it how only the educators seem to be running into all the accidental porn.

I still also don't get how if there is only a 2%-4% issue, why anything even needs to happen.
I find it hard to believe that a majority, or even less than that, of sl users are constantly running into this 2%-4% content in the world.... how is it that "the college professor and the students" always seem to be the ones appalled by the overabundant unavoidable xxx content??

(I'm getting a mental image of all these prof and student avatars being trapped in some sort of sex maze getting pelted with pink penises and every single movement or teleport to another location puts them in another maze with pink pelting penisis.... but they do have the knowledge to complain about it, and the knowledge to get to their virtual classroom.)

I'm in SL at least 40 hours or more a week.... for the past 2 or more years... my mature checkbox is clicked..... I never have ever in all my time ever been subjected to any lude xxx content accidentally,.... and on a daily basis, i do absolutely nothing to avoid it, and yet, I still don't see it. It's like people are raising an issue just knowing it exists. I have a feeling all of these 'hey I was forced to teleport to a sim and i tripped on a penis and i cannot avoid any of it' stories are fishtales.

/me points. This!!!

/me agrees. Unfortunately this is doubly the case for journalists that aren't in-world. Frankly, they need to get better at public relations instead of blaming their customers for their PR problems. Perhaps you could practice improving your PR skills by actually listening to your residents for once.

I kind of suspect this is not that far off... but not because it has anything to do with the Adult content being discussed here. This stuff happens because the Welcome Areas and Educational Event listings are like bright shining beacons for every griefer stopping by on a 1-day account.

I am in SL 8-12 hours a day. The only time I see anything 'offensive' is at the Miramare Infohub (PG) when an anonymous griefer unleashes a particle attack using extreme hardcore images. Otherwise, I rarely see anything 'offensive' on the mainland.

Would that count times like when i was in a club earlier and a guy in ruth skin and hair, naked, with a huge peener attachment was walking around bumping people from behind saying "Ola!" over and over? Or furries yiffing in shouts as i was passing through a sim the other day? Granted, "offensive" is relative, but I think you are way understating how easy it is to stumble onto nudity, sexual content, and outright vulgarity.

There has to be a functional usefulness to a system like this. A level of assurance, with, granted, a plus or minus of failure, but at least some means of proactively preventing content from being accessed. The fact is, the content is in mine and your inventory, and we can take it anywhere.

Unless that changes, these measures are meaningless.

I see 100 new faces at my adult club about every 2 weeks.

I'm all for educational places in SL. Or kids stuff or business or politics or sewing clubs or stamp collectors or whatever anybody wants to do. Please bring more!! The more the merrier!

My place is on a mature rated sim and listed as mature land. The first words in the search description are "ADULTS ONLY!!" It's a pretty naughty place but there are walls where the naughty stuff is easily visible from outside our lands.

You're telling me that I should move because your 1/25th as many people might happen to stumble onto my land while they're exploring the grid? What are these kids doing out exploring when they're there for education purposes??

I've lived across the street from a rather popular escort club for over a year now.

I've yet to be exposed to ANY "X-rated" content resulting from that club or its patrons in or near my home or business. They keep it all inside their club, or in their skyboxes.

Now, I have received some random propositions (apparently some humans are into that Dragon<->Human thing; I'm not) a couple of times, but that's hardly worthy of this level of action.

Maybe the "education" they are seeking is not the one their teachers are offering.

Yeah thats what happens in clubs in 'mature' sims -> dont go there. Not good for you.

I dunno what grid you guys are on. About 3 weeks ago I was at Armidi, PG, and a gal was walking around in only prim bits and high heels, and when taken to task about it by passersby declared herself a naturist and told them to eff off. I really, really feel dubious that the kind of people like my "Ola!" example and the naturist gal really give a darn about the rating of the sim.

and i dunno where anyone who remotely knows me would get the idea that i am somehow opposed to adult content. I am most certainly not. What I am opposed to is the farce any implied "safe" area would be.

That'd be funnier if we weren't being thrown off the lands we've occupied and peacefully coexisted with our less-naughty neighbors for almost 3 years now.

Sure, I see the odd noob with his, ahem, virtual manhood poking out of his pants and, yes, it is usually accompanied by something like "hey, baby, I really like you." So what? The usual response of any adult is to shrug it off or make a joke. This is not 42nd Street or a London pub; this is a virtual world. If someone can't handle a virtual world from the comfort of their private apartment then they don't belong here.

How exactly is uprooting and forcing 2-4% (such a laughable figure) to an adult only continent going to protect you from someone bumping into you nude and wearing a wooden penis? That is a griefer and this action will do nothing to stop that. If you want PG then stay in PG sims and abuse report anyone that violates the rules for PG sims.

You are right about content. There is nothing except the threat of an AR to stop anyone from rezzing inapproprate content in PG areas. The griefers aren't going to move along to the redlight district with the legitimate users. They will stay right there in the PG area hoping to get a reaction out of those that do not want to see the objectionable material. This whole thing makes absolutly no sense and the only assurance you will ever have is if all offending content is deleted from the database and all the users kicked off of SL so the grid is empty.

Amen, so why bother making faux safe areas that won't be safe regardless?

I agree. LL is digging itself deeper and deeper into a hole with its California mentality. They really need to leave the state, see the world, meet humans.

The point of PG is not so much sex as serenity. The idea is that folks will gravitate to either Mature or PG sims depending on their tastes. Nothing is perfect. A PG designation simply enables LL to act against the worst abusers - easily defined as doing something impossible to articulate in a blog entry such as this.