Upcoming Changes for Adult Content: Motivations and Goals

I don't think that we will ever know for sure as LL uses the mushroom philosophy on its paying customers, that is "keep us in the dark and feed us bullshit" but i bet money that LL are losing money and having staff cutbacks and internal re organizations.

We have decided our next move and are scaling down yet again to just half a sim for my wifes shop and will just promote our RL adult website via a couple of posters in the shop area she will have and keep the pictures squeaky clean as the posters are now and sell the other half of the sim before the land prices drop completely.

It will be interesting to see how long it will be before its no longer worth playing in SL and how long it is before the teen and main grids are merged. Anyone going to open a book? Oppps thats gambling better not lol

/me blinks.

Since i don't own enough sims to be able to log on today (go bots!) i thought i might take the time to clarify the FAQ for this topic.

Why is Linden Lab choosing to do this?

Because we are not very creative and our bottom line is down from our continued miss-management and incompetence and so we hired a corporate consultant team to help us find ways to attract more cows to milk. Our consultants told us that americans are country of paranoid delusionals who consider mixing adults with kids to be a Bad Thing. It's much better to raise dullards and suck on some prozak on the way to the beer store.

Why now?

Because our landmass continues to shrink faster then we can introduce new continents. With actual unique users and paid users on a steep decline we felt we had to do something to enable us to continue to milk this set up for another year or two.

What are the short- and long-term plans?

The short-term plan for this project is to become more attractive to other McCompanies with corporate mindset in the hope that we might be able to dump this limp platform before it goes splat. We do not have any long-term plans at this moment other then to retire to real life islands with large amounts of money.

Is this something that Second Life users have asked for?

Absolutely not. In fact we didn't bother to ask anyone other then our hired consultants.

How does this move prevent minors from entering Second Life or accessing content?

It doesn't, but that is not important. Reality is meaningless in the face of corporate image. If we truly cared about age we would put the age check on the Front Door.

Will this initiative affect Teen Second Life?

Not for at least a month or two. At that time it will enable us to merge both grids and allow us to print propaganda explaining how the grid has grow in landmass and new users! Teen Second Life has always been a red herring.

Will this initiative prohibit certain kinds of content in Second Life?

We do not prohibit any content. In fact we make our living from the content that has already been created and we warmly welcome copy-bot at this time as we have critical mass and don't give a rats about the content creators who made this world. In fact we wont even police this policy change.

Second Life has always been an open environment; is Linden Lab deciding to abandon that principle?

As we have shown in the past with our actions such as the OS-Homestead bait and switch, we do not have any principles, therefor there is nothing to abandon. Pro quo.

Has Linden Lab consulted third parties as part of this initiative?

Yes, we've hired many consultants to help us find a way to improve our image. In fact we have more consults working on our image then we have skilled coders working on the actual platform.

Is Linden Lab trying to deemphasize(sic) the community so it can focus more on the enterprise market?

We are only worried about the image and not the actual communities that are here now. Our goal is to increase perceived shareholder value with a sanitation of the grids image without any concern for established communities since most of our numbers are made of non-paying accounts and kids.

If I have already been age verified, or have a payment method on file, will this carry over for the new initiative?

Yes, all 12 of our paying customers will be verified.

Will this bring any benefits for vendors in Second Life?

No. This will segregate users into regions and lower sales for all. Except on a corporate level. In other words, our sales.

How will this program help attract new users?

It wont, but it will make the platform more attractive to marketing divisions of McCorporations and raise our perceived shareholder value.

How will these changes affect XstreetSL?

XstreetSL already separates Adult content, so we expect no changes at this time.

And where does this put the BDSM community? Anyone that knows anything about the BDSM community knows that BDSM != SEX automatically.

....What about us adult SL players that don't own a credit card? It is not fair to us, who have no method of proving our age save for sharing our social security number. No offense to Linden Labs, but I'm not too keen on giving that sort of information over the internet. If I wanted to do that, I'd have just gone to a different game. I play here because they never once asked me for that sort of valuable personal information.

Bear with me please, I'm running on three hours sleep in three days. >.> If my words come out as rude or insensitive, I'm really sorry. It's not my intention.

I honestly think if LL does things this way, they are going to lose a LOT of players. And I'm not saying this randomly, I'm always over-reading folks in local chat talking about the changes, how much they dislike them, how if they find an opportunity for another game of this kind, that they'll go for it. And that's really sad, because I've never seen a game this immersive,(Spelling?) and beautifully done, and it's a shame that people will want to leave if the company starts asking for information that they really don't need to have unless someone is paying to play it.

Unfortunately, no matter how much one tries there's no way kids are going to be kept from adult material on -any- game. Many parents in fact, don't monitor their kid's internet usage, like many parents don't monitor what they watch on TV, or listen to on the radio, or play on their video game systems. It's unfair to punish the rest of the community because a handful of parents aren't doing their jobs.

If they think that I will provide my ID card, passport info or SSN then LL really is out of their mind. It's not a damn bank. In 2007 (or 2006) some team breached LL's security and hacked the system and had access to log in info. LL was able to step in short after and deleted everyone's passwords and no one could log in until they set up a new one.

Now with this lacking security there is no way that people will obey to their age verification system. As for me, I am here for fun. Yes "Adult" fun too. But I won't kill myself if that part will be missing. In that case back to W.o.W. less lag, more fun, and no Adult content.

Beware Alliance! Blood Elf chick is coming to melt your face!!!!!!!!!!! lol

*Blows a kiss to you all*

LL should go back to democracy.

since when a minority( this time the us-residents) can rule the majority? Who is not okay , can leave!

I fully agree,

Yes this is also a big way to keep all the silly people paying the outrageous fees for making a classified advertisement.

The only thing LL has fixed is the ad farms and that was so they could collect more for the paid advertisement in the search engine as more users would bid to be listed in the top 100. Plus users / residents were in a revolting stance.

I think more people found the trash advertising more offensive and look what it took to fix that.

I see this issue as a parental issue and a user issue,

I don't let my kids use the SL
browser not because of what they might see but who they might meet. I don't bring my children to a dance club me and my girl go to either.

That said users would benefit form the ability to activate some kind of filter

Leave content policing the way it is.. Now if 15 or 20 people put in a help request with in 15 min you take action on obscene behavior.

FIX the broke assed servers you are billing me thousands for.

The only way to age verify is to come to my house and grab my balls tell me to turn my head and cough.

There are all ready a tonne of children AKA minors by US standards here using the SL browser now. All any one needs is a g-mail account and Poof you are an escort in a sex club swinging on a dance pole.

The state I live in has already passed laws governing children and the internet. I agree that government and parents are responsible for this not your California based corporation.

I already lost my ass buying an OS sim you raised the price on and changed the rules for its use 2 days after I bought it.

All this action will accomplish is to further ruin the distressed economy in SL

Corporate investment in SL is already at a DRASTICALLY low level content filtering wont fix that, but if the features of SL actualy worked they might stop bailing out of the sinking ship.

I haven't landed a sim build up for a new client in weeks, the number of sim / servers is decreasing not increasing.

You lame assed liberals in Sanfrancisco cant decide what is adult any way. I am a conservative and I think limiting what one can read, see, and listen to is piratically telling them how and what to think. Booooo!!! Hisssss!!

Yes labels are good you alread have them just make them work PG and Mature cover the adult stuff just add a G rating and you are all set. PG by definition requires an adult or parent to decide if it is appropriate for the child.


Here is my answer: Make the maturity status of the sim a user is requesting to travel to or being invited to DISPLAY in the client browser prior!! to travel. Users must then "cancel or allow " before you can TP to a "PG" or "mature" sim "G" rated sims would require no approval . This will keep most people form being exposed to objectionable material and visual content they do nto want to view. Offer a separate "G" General audiance SL browser for users that wish to filter adult content and parents so they can set the computer their children use to only use the "G" version browser.


Oh yeah and to keep with your money grubbing style of business raise the price of the mature sim by 30% as you did not expect users to masturbate as frequently in front of th SL borwser.
Here is a thought Lindens I have a public PG Sim I allow residents to rez objects so the can use the race track and rez objects they can drive.

PS
The only reason even saw this post was I cant log into my server.. My employee sitting rite next to me is logged in to my server / sim fix that kind of stuff first then we can talk about teh smut police you want to start

[UPDATE 10:40] Logins have been disabled as we continue to work to correct this issue.

ROFLMAO..............there we have it:

1. This is happening wether we like it or not !

2. "Will be somewhere where it isn't an issue"............THEY ARE PUTTING IT ON OPEN SIM


/me goes back to lying naked in her "MATURE" garden wondering how many are camming to get a good look .........and thinking these voyeurs are likely the ones who don't like adult content *giggles*

How will this effect private islands? Or will this only affect mainland? I am a fur who stays away from mainland as much as possible for many different reasons.

This just sounds like an additional reason for me to avoid mainland at all costs and stick to visiting private islands as I have been for the last 9 months. It is a rare occassion for me to be on mainland and that is only to buy something and then leave as quickly as possible.

My suggestion to everyone? Leave mainland altogether and head to private islands where you are free to be yourself.

*rests his paws on his tree and whistles while mainland self destructs once again*

Grid abuses and TOS infractions aside, of course ...

Why would you go to a mature sim if you don't want to see what's there? You wouldn't, right?

Doesn't sound like you need a filter to me.

tp?

No, it's not.

And it's also not what's being suggested.

Awesome and soooo true

Here, here, Maurice! Best thing I've read from a Linden yet today.

I would if i could Ghosty...........but surprise surprise can't login.......logins disabled

It is EXACTLY what was suggested. A filter for mature content. Go back and read the post.

So if I'm reading this right, a child avatar roaming around the adult sims will be considered acceptable??

LOL I'll take a rain check

I just thought of that. Well ... me personally, if I ran an "adult" sim and saw a kid avie, they'd get the eject/ban, but that's just me.

Right, what was suggested was Joo Janta Peril Sensitive sunglasses on the "OMG PORN" setting.

Yeah. I'm the one that added that JIRA and already know what I asked for. She was just responding to my statement that I mostly just got laughed at when I added it.

Having a PG-only viewer for people or institutions that don't want to see non-PG content is not the same as seeing the world through rose colored glasses. It's actually giving people the option to not see things they don't want to see. It's actually doing what LL says they're trying to do.

Will that filter chat too and voice? that would revolutinezed the whole live music-scene )

Uhhhh...

Everyone on the ADULT grid is an ADULT (or should be considered such by default), right? In that case, what does our RL age have to do with anything? Are there going to be further stratifications for different age groups of adults?

So, is it OK for a nude child avatar to be seen at an SL nudist group (assuming there is nothing sexual about it going on with the child av)? If so, you need to update the G-Team, since it is known that they take action on such things.

In addition, that is at odds with the law. If only real age was a factor, all "child avatar" players are consenting adults in RL, and can, by your statement, participate in sexual acts, because, as you say "only your real world age is a factor". Many western laws make it illegal to even depict child pornography, even if it is fictional and/or artistic in nature.

Methinks you should choose your words a bit more carefully there.

And as I said to her, "Grid abuses and TOS infractions aside" ... you need to stay out of mature sims. Then you don't need the filter. Or rose-colored glasses. Or whatever euphemism floats your boat.