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Gordon Wendt
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11-28-2008 16:53
Sorry one last post: Beyond my issues with the OS threads you'll note that this is not an OS thread so people have absolutely no reason or excuse to hijack this thread for their OS complaints. Again you are not being helpful, you are not being productive, you are just making it impossible to have legitimate conversations on this forum since every thread that Katt posts is hijacked by OS complaints. That's my bigger issue here.
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Ciaran Laval
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11-28-2008 16:55
That being said I would be interested to see how you think that shouting into the wind on threads that are complaints about how LL made me lose my build or LL made me lose my rental business are actually productive or helpful for anything If I'd lost my build or rental business I wouldn't be posting here, but let's look at who took it off topic. I told Katt, as requested, what I had planned. I made a suggestion to Katt about what I thought would be fun. What have you added to this thread Gordon? |
Gordon Wendt
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11-28-2008 17:00
Since Linden Lab refuses to have ANY communication on the subject of Open Space SIM's, we'll take our complaints where ever they have the guts to show their faces. You don't like it? Well, don't read them, mmmkkkay? Bob, so you hijack random threads because LL won't reply to your little rants about how they don't love you anymore, how sad. As I stated above, the Lindens don't care about your little problems anymore, they listened, they even made some (admittedly minimal) changes, probably pre-planned changes incidentally, so I don't see what reasoning you can use to justify hijacking every Linden posted thread you come across just because you can't get over your little hissy fit. _____________________
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Gordon Wendt
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11-28-2008 17:06
If I'd lost my build or rental business I wouldn't be posting here, but let's look at who took it off topic. I told Katt, as requested, what I had planned. I made a suggestion to Katt about what I thought would be fun. What have you added to this thread Gordon? To this thread? admittedly nothing as of yet however If the opportunity arises to be constructive then I will however I didn't feel like letting your slight about "heinous price rises" go unchallenged. To answer your question, while the christmas party part was on topic the price rises part was off-topic so you were the one who brought it off topic initially. Incidentally, please look at my post history and look at my other posts on Katt's various threads and you'll see that I have been being constructive overall. _____________________
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Ciaran Laval
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11-28-2008 17:09
To this thread? admittedly nothing as of yet however If the opportunity arises to be constructive then I will however I didn't feel like letting your slight about "heinous price rises" go unchallenged. To answer your question, while the christmas party part was on topic the price rises part was off-topic so you were the one who brought it off topic initially. Incidentally, please look at my post history and look at my other posts on Katt's various threads and you'll see that I have been being constructive overall. You still haven't made one point here about what Katt asked. I had the courtesy to do that. You're trolling Gordon, give it up or make a contribution as Katt asked. |
Gordon Wendt
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11-28-2008 17:18
You still haven't made one point here about what Katt asked. I had the courtesy to do that. You're trolling Gordon, give it up or make a contribution as Katt asked. I'll probably check out some of the attractions, maybe build a snowman and drink some virtual hot chocolate while roasting some virtual chestnuts on a particle open fire. -- Break -- Ciaran, I don't expect anyone on their end to say for sure but if I were LL, and believe me I'm glad I'm not working for them especially right now, but thinking about it the logical thing to do it would be to keep the OS Discussion section open for people to have a place to vent in which case your right I would be wrong to try to push people off posting there although I stand by the fact that snipes on threads on every thread Katt or other Lindens post are unhelpful and are just annoying to the rest of us who are tired of dealing with the constant whining everywhere about the OS issue. _____________________
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11-28-2008 17:31
Gordon.....I am not attacking you personaly..but I think you are missing the whole point that is going on here right now...this is just not about OS issues anymore..true the OS Issue started it all but it has gone way beyond that at this point. What the issue is here any more,and not just in these forums, is that ALOT of people in SL have lost total trust and faith in anything LL labs says or does. So as a result,yes,there will be ALOT of people either leaving SL or HAVE left SL or just dont really care anymore. So get used to seeing this kind of "flaming" that you call it because it will be the "norm" in here for a very very long time.
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11-28-2008 17:49
but thinking about it the logical thing to do it would be to keep the OS Discussion section open Gordon - I do find it amazing that you hark on about the OS problem much more than anyone else, if it wasn't for you the issue may have been forgotten, so good on you for keeping the issue in everyones mind, thank you, happy Christmas. |
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11-28-2008 17:50
Gordon.....I am not attacking you personaly..but I think you are missing the whole point that is going on here right now...this is just not about OS issues anymore..true the OS Issue started it all but it has gone way beyond that at this point. What the issue is here any more,and not just in these forums, is that ALOT of people in SL have lost total trust and faith in anything LL labs says or does. So as a result,yes,there will be ALOT of people either leaving SL or HAVE left SL or just dont really care anymore. So get used to seeing this kind of "flaming" that you call it because it will be the "norm" in here for a very very long time. good point _____________________
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Gordon Wendt
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11-28-2008 17:59
Gordon.....I am not attacking you personaly..but I think you are missing the whole point that is going on here right now...this is just not about OS issues anymore..true the OS Issue started it all but it has gone way beyond that at this point. What the issue is here any more,and not just in these forums, is that ALOT of people in SL have lost total trust and faith in anything LL labs says or does. So as a result,yes,there will be ALOT of people either leaving SL or HAVE left SL or just dont really care anymore. So get used to seeing this kind of "flaming" that you call it because it will be the "norm" in here for a very very long time. What your essentially doing though by stopping these threads is taking it out on other residents. This is essentially a more technological form of storming an airport with enough protesters that it has to be shut down. Really your self defeating because if I get your goal right which is to stop LL from being able to normally conduct business until they give in to your <sic> demands then you and the rest of the residents are the ones who get hurt by this more than LL so really your in a no-win situation. _____________________
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Gordon Wendt
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11-28-2008 18:01
Gordon - I do find it amazing that you hark on about the OS problem much more than anyone else, if it wasn't for you the issue may have been forgotten, so good on you for keeping the issue in everyones mind, thank you, happy Christmas. Really somewhat ironic then isn't it?, about two weeks early but Merry Christmas to you too ![]() _____________________
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11-28-2008 18:20
Gordon - I do find it amazing that you hark on about the OS problem much more than anyone else, if it wasn't for you the issue may have been forgotten, so good on you for keeping the issue in everyones mind, thank you, happy Christmas. The grid's shrunk by +5% already, over a month before any pricing changes happen. Don't worry about Gordon - this issue won't be forgotten anytime soon. |
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11-28-2008 18:56
We've been winterizing Livingtree this week and will be hosting some events there. Also, there will be MUCH to do at Winterland in Del Aqua, which will be open for yet another year.
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11-28-2008 19:20
Bob, so you hijack random threads because LL won't reply to your little rants about how they don't love you anymore, how sad. As I stated above, the Lindens don't care about your little problems anymore, they listened, they even made some (admittedly minimal) changes, probably pre-planned changes incidentally, so I don't see what reasoning you can use to justify hijacking every Linden posted thread you come across just because you can't get over your little hissy fit. For someone that's NOT going to say ANYTHING ELSE, you sure are saying a LOT! What part of "Don't read what you don't agree with" are you having trouble with? I mean, is there someone sitting there with you forcing you to read these messages? Are you just unable to scan over a message and skip it if you don't like it? BTW - I don't have to explain one thing to you George. Like PROK, you aren't in control here, and you don't get to say who does what. You can preach it brother, too bad you can't live it! _____________________
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Gordon Wendt
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11-28-2008 19:58
For someone that's NOT going to say ANYTHING ELSE, you sure are saying a LOT! What part of "Don't read what you don't agree with" are you having trouble with? I mean, is there someone sitting there with you forcing you to read these messages? Are you just unable to scan over a message and skip it if you don't like it? BTW - I don't have to explain one thing to you George. Like PROK, you aren't in control here, and you don't get to say who does what. You can preach it brother, too bad you can't live it! Yeah well stay in the OS discussion section and I'd be happy to not read it but don't read what you don't agree with isn't really possible when by my estimation 9/10 threads on this board, 10/10 if a Linden posts at any point, are hijacked by you whiny people who just can't deal with the fact that LL doesn't care what you think. Notably you still haven't answered my question about how your goal of not having LL being able to go about normal business without seeing you guys bitch and moan at every turn will do to help you since as much as you bitch and moan about them you rely on them being able to go about day to day business for SL. Or more to the point bob, if your so pissed with LL why don't you put your money with your mouth is, you challenged me not to read what I don't like ok then don't use SL if you don't like what LL is doing or you are as big a hypocrite as anyone else here myself included but at least I'm at least honest enough to admit that I am a hypocrite at times. Incidentally, I decided to change my mind, as long as you are bitching and moaning about your little problems I will be there to say how foolish you are to do so. You of course have a right to complain and I get the nice little right to say that it's idiotic for you to complain and hypocritical for you to complain while still giving LL money. _____________________
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11-28-2008 20:06
Yeah well stay in the OS discussion section and I'd be happy to not read it but don't read what you don't agree with isn't really possible when by my estimation 9/10 threads on this board, 10/10 if a Linden posts at any point, are hijacked by you whiny people who just can't deal with the fact that LL doesn't care what you think. Notably you still haven't answered my question about how your goal of not having LL being able to go about normal business without seeing you guys bitch and moan at every turn will do to help you since as much as you bitch and moan about them you rely on them being able to go about day to day business for SL. Or more to the point bob, if your so pissed with LL why don't you put your money with your mouth is, you challenged me not to read what I don't like ok then don't use SL if you don't like what LL is doing or you are as big a hypocrite as anyone else here myself included but at least I'm at least honest enough to admit that I am a hypocrite at times. Incidentally, I decided to change my mind, as long as you are bitching and moaning about your little problems I will be there to say how foolish you are to do so. You of course have a right to complain and I get the nice little right to say that it's idiotic for you to complain and hypocritical for you to complain while still giving LL money. Well, at least you are big enough to know that you are being Hypocriticle. As for me answering you; who are you exactly? I mean, who do you think you are in my life that I should answer you? Are you someone that is in any position to demand an answer from me? Are you going to threaten me next? Gordon Boy, just read what you are typing before you submit it. Really, your logic isn't tracking too well, perhaps it's the whiskey, or just the age, whichever, it's not too pretty ![]() As for me, well, I'm not going to entertain your trolling any longer. Katt as usual has bypassed my question, showing, again, and again, and again, just how much of a hyprorite Linden Lab employee's are; which should leave you in good company Gordon. _____________________
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11-28-2008 20:15
Well, at least you are big enough to know that you are being Hypocriticle. As for me answering you; who are you exactly? I mean, who do you think you are in my life that I should answer you? Are you someone that is in any position to demand an answer from me? Are you going to threaten me next? Gordon Boy, just read what you are typing before you submit it. Really, your logic isn't tracking too well, perhaps it's the whiskey, or just the age, whichever, it's not too pretty ![]() As for me, well, I'm not going to entertain your trolling any longer. Katt as usual has bypassed my question, showing, again, and again, and again, just how much of a hyprorite Linden Lab employee's are; which should leave you in good company Gordon. You should be used to that by now, I can't speak for them of course not being an LL employee (and never wanting to be one) however I'm guessing they know that this will die down eventually and even if people like you refuse to let this go there will be a point where so many people have just let it go there will be only a few fanatics left who will be marginalized at best and it would honestly not surprise me at all if they reach that point and your still screaming at nothing if you just one day disappear from the grid. I don't believe I have demanded anything, I asked for an answer and all I get is abuse from you. You'll note that I have never attacked you personally just your stance and with everyone else in this conversation we may disagree strongly however you are the only one immature enough to resort to personal attacks which says a lot about how much you really belong in an adult community. _____________________
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Gordon Wendt
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11-28-2008 20:26
Well, at least you are big enough to know that you are being Hypocriticle. As for me answering you; who are you exactly? I mean, who do you think you are in my life that I should answer you? Are you someone that is in any position to demand an answer from me? Are you going to threaten me next? Gordon Boy, just read what you are typing before you submit it. Really, your logic isn't tracking too well, perhaps it's the whiskey, or just the age, whichever, it's not too pretty ![]() As for me, well, I'm not going to entertain your trolling any longer. Katt as usual has bypassed my question, showing, again, and again, and again, just how much of a hyprorite Linden Lab employee's are; which should leave you in good company Gordon. You should be used to that by now, I can't speak for them of course not being an LL employee (and never wanting to be one) however I'm guessing they know that this will die down eventually and even if people like you refuse to let this go there will be a point where so many people have just let it go there will be only a few fanatics left who will be marginalized at best and it would honestly not surprise me at all if they reach that point and your still screaming at nothing if you just one day disappear from the grid. _____________________
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Katt Linden
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11-28-2008 20:38
Please review the Forum Guidelines. Personal attacks are not appropriate in the forums. Flaming (posting a message that is intended to incite anger or directly attack a person or persons), ...[is] strongly discouraged." This is your friendly warning, please refrain attacking individuals or groups in the forums.
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Jesse Barnett
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11-28-2008 20:49
Please review the Forum Guidelines. Personal attacks are not appropriate in the forums. Flaming (posting a message that is intended to incite anger or directly attack a person or persons), ...[is] strongly discouraged." This is your friendly warning, please refrain attacking individuals or groups in the forums. Off topic of me but O well. I have been a vocal critic of you on occasion Katt but have always acknowledged that you have an impossible job which i would never want. Just wanted to say that I am seeing a bit more balance in your moderation. Just as I criticize I can also praise. I like the last few posts and ideas the Lindens have posted to the forums including Winter Wonderland and am hoping the increased Linden participation continues here. Still hopin for the makeover here thou. (Just had to sneak that in) _____________________
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11-28-2008 21:09
<snip>I hope I can be a part of one of these celebratory events. It's such a great time of the year, and here in NYC we dont really get winters or snowy scenes anymore. Are these doubleprim or regular prim and how big is the space usually? I assume it doesnt count against tier? This is for builds on your own land, or for group builds like the Snowman building contest. |
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11-28-2008 21:10
We've been winterizing Livingtree this week and will be hosting some events there. Also, there will be MUCH to do at Winterland in Del Aqua, which will be open for yet another year. ![]() I've been watching Wengen, Voss, Zermatt and Moritz. Like the Aurora effect. Hope the chairlift in Wengen gets a touch more TLC ![]() Glad you like the Aurora effect! Good catch, it's special this year ![]() I look forward to checking out your events in Winterland in Del Aqua and Livingtree ![]() |
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11-28-2008 21:12
...I'll probably check out some of the attractions, maybe build a snowman and drink some virtual hot chocolate while roasting some virtual chestnuts on a particle open fire.... I look forward to seeing your snowman ![]() |
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11-28-2008 21:14
....n hopes to share a warm cup of Yuletide and "Auld Lang Syne" for all. Thanks. Personally, I am looking forward to this and plan to participate. Not sure what yet, but defintely count me in. I love the entire concept and think it's a great way to bring the community together whilst at the same time sharing a bit of cross cultural winter seasons celebrations. Thanks Linden Lab! Thanks Vryl! I do hope so. |
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11-28-2008 21:15
Off topic of me but O well. I have been a vocal critic of you on occasion Katt but have always acknowledged that you have an impossible job which i would never want. Just wanted to say that I am seeing a bit more balance in your moderation. Just as I criticize I can also praise. I like the last few posts and ideas the Lindens have posted to the forums including Winter Wonderland and am hoping the increased Linden participation continues here. Still hopin for the makeover here thou. (Just had to sneak that in) Appreciated, Jesse ![]() |