RC Questions

I believe in finding the right answers, not merely the most convenient ones or the answers that make me appear right. In order to do that, I have to be able to question myself as well as others.

Yes, that does get misunderstood as 'arguing for the sake of arguing.'

I think we simply have different opinions here. To me, modesty in what is presented publicly is simple politeness, the adult concept of being respectful that others may not want to see the same things you do. In private is another matter. I am not opposed to adult content existing, and in fact defend its right to advertize. I just agree that the concept of 'reasonable restrictions' applies.



How are you being any different, though? I do not mean that in any offensive manner, but how is insisting that nothing should be done to mitigate risks any better or worse than insisting everything should be done?



Which laws? I am confused here. I know you are in favour of complete age verification and getting rid of free accounts... I am not averse to that suggestion, just feel that it might be an even tougher sell. It might also be worse for SL, which would make it harder to sell to LL.



Nothing is a panacea. That does not mean nothing has virtue.



Look, you once claimed to have put me on ignore EVEN THOUGH WE WERE AGREEING at the time, at least to the principles being discussed. Even though we were agreeing, you still argued against me. If you think I am a troll or a plant, just stop responding to my posts. It is that simple.

Moving a partial sim should not be that much harder than moving a whole sim... the partial sim already has to have discrete property lines to define its ownership, doesn't it?

As for the risk of copying, ownership could be temporarily locked out until the process is complete to prevent that. In other words, the subroutines could be designed to prevent any outside copying (even on the part of the owners) until the process is complete.

I like the idea of asking Kirk/the FTC 'why do you hate our freedoms?' The other current emotional cliche, '9/11 changed everything', was overused by Shrub and the former is more apt anyway.

Hey, if they can play the 'won't someone please think of the children' card ...

Got the transcript up on the KB. This will be a lot easier for people to find and read.

Adult Oriented content controls: followup definitions meeting transcript

https://support.secondlife.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=4417&task=knowledge&questionID=6317

So no 'umms' 'errs' or 'hmms' as in previous snippets people have posted and what you would expect in a vocal conversation that was not scripted? Blondin: a transcript is what is said, warts and all, not what people wish was said.

I also have submitted to doing the trial run in Blue Mars next month. One thing to realize is that every city will be what the city owner wants it to be, clean or dirty. If I want to recreate Caligula's pornpits in my city, that's up to me. If you don't like it, stay out of that city. It's as simple as that.

And I (AM) a builder and creator. So the complaints about no content don't bother me much - I'll just make my own stuff like I do in SL. Except for clothing - I'm not as good at that as I wish I was. Never can make seams line up right. But eventually there will be stuff just like there is stuff in SL now. You fellow creators may want to consider the advantages of being the first to make certain items in Blue Mars.

The thing to remember about Blue Mars is that every city will be individually themed and can support lots more than SL currently does. So we'll be able to have real fun in the way that we used to have in SL before the long knives entered our world.

Do you understand the issue with the word "photo-realistic" because it's pretty clear from that transcript that JP and Marty don't ... given the way they kept acting as if it was a keyword issue rather than a definitions issue... and if so cold you please explain it to them?

So long as "fun" involves being good human consumers with no impromptu in-world creativity.

Oh, I don't disagree that I'd love to let everyone inworld make stuff to their hearts content. Anyone saying that this will prevent griefing hasn't paid much attention to how the griefers in SL operate - one person builds and the buttheads all use their stuff. So no, it won't stop that. But even though I agree that the bar is too high in Blue Mars, hanging out in SL has taught me that I have to put up with lots of negatives from the company if I want to enjoy the positives.

Thank you LL for teaching me how to put up with BS.

You don't need to build to grief people. Look at what one stinking Badger just did on the forums over the past few days.

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So hmm, why not find a community that accepts that lifestyle? I am on mature land myself, and I would ban any guy for showing their dong dong as well. I don't care if it's a human or furry. I am a furry as well, and I expect furries to wear clothing, as we aren't animals, are we? No wait, we are animals, but civilized ones.

Actually, they did it backwards, creating the continent first, and *then* getting people to fit. They should have taken the move requests, and fit the continent design according to who needs how much of what.

Unless you are very picky, you don't care about which way a slope faces, only how much it slopes across your land, and absolute altitude only matters at ocean level. Since you can adjust elevation +/- 4 m, then you can define parcel requests as follows:

* Underwater
* Waterfront flat beach
* Waterfront 4m slope/parcel
* Waterfront 8m slope/parcel
etc. to cliffside
* Interior Flat Land
* Interior 4m slope/parcel
* Interior 8m slope/parcel
etc.

Taking that plus parcel sizes should allow laying out a continent or series of islands that meets most everyone's needs without a lot of terrain rework.

Your so-called "Transcript" fails to mention any of the TEXT CHAT that was happening at the same time. This is only the VOICE part, and edited and cleaned up at that. Or were the Lindens just voice chatting with their eyes closed, like many people do when chatting on a cell phone? Most of them certainly seem to be ignoring the TEXT CHAT.

Great spin, Blondin. But you get a D-Minus on accuracy or honesty. And you're essentially telling residents that if they don't/won't/can't use VOICE, they can go to h***.

The problem I see with that is that individual builds are built to *their* terrain, not to some new terrain features that are designed with no bearing at all. If feels like the new continent has been built by rote, 'create land, have people build on it' without any understanding that the situation is really 'people moving existing structures.'

Anything built on flat ground would be easy, of course, but anything built on terrain features might not be quite the same.. although I suppose they could just adjust the z axis, then let people put in whatever foundations they want (if any). That would still not work for anyone who has built into or against the side of a hill though...

Parcel designations could even be copied as the final step, to keep relevant scripts intact. The old land could be renamed, after all.

It ends up being just as bad for the estate residents. A certain percentage will be forced by their verification status to move *out* of adult regions, and a certain percentage will be forced to move *into* adult regions if they have adult content and the estate owner is not resetting their region from Mature or PG. So it will be a shuffling of people around till they all end up in the right maturity regions.

The estate owners will be likely offering a range of help moving from "Too bad you cant get in any more, heres your stuff, no refund" to generous assistance in relocating (I would expect the larger, better run estates to want to keep their tenants, and do something to ease the pain)

That's crazy talk! Crazy talk! Next thing you'll want them to do something REALLY wacky like implement real privacy! Goldarn crazy kids, always dreaming of a world that makes sense...

Yeah, but by leaving out the chat portion, some of it makes no sense. If you want a merged voice + chat transcript, go here:

http://www.slapt.me/wiki/index.php/Second_Adult_Definitions_meeting

(not to mention we had it up two days earlier

Or contoured their build to match the parcel shape or where a road/river/RR track is.

((Do you really think it will help your cause if you constantly ridicule anyone outside of Europe? I'am ashamed of this behavior, being a fellow Austrian. BTW there are Lindens who are EU citizens.))



It is nations or countries. The EU is not the "United States of Europe" (just explaining to you).



If you still hold a passport of your original country you are registered there in some way, aren't you, as you are entitled to vote and what not (I hold two passports and hence have two identities to "choose" from). So why not just verify using the address that is written in your passport? Living abroad doesn't mean you lose your original home country. I am not sure if that would be OK to do. In such a case I would just call them and ask. If you use Skype it's free and easy to do.

I guess you don't understand 3D design. As long as the slope range matches their old location closely enough, they can get an exact match to their old terrain.

The hard way would be to hand adjust the new land to match. The easier way would be to copy the terrain file from the old parcel to the new one, with a Z adjustment as needed.

The slope range makes sure that parcels next to each other will match up fairly well at the edges. In other words, you want a set of parcels with 4 meter drops side by side so you get a reasonable hillside, rather than one with 0 slope next to one with 8 meter slope

The reason for grouping them in bands of 4 meters, is that's how much adjustment is allowed on mainland, so that's how much tweaking you can do at the edges *after* everyone is placed. But for larger parcels, the bulk of the parcel interior will be exactly the same as before.

so if you're not having fun, that's your problem

I see.. I think I understand now... basicly you are saying that the land could be done first, then terraformed with the terrain files from the old parcels. That is similar to what I was saying, just with the one extra step of setting up a land base first.

Blondin,

When will PIOF through Xstreet be counted as Account verified?
Is it suppose to be already working now?
If not, then when?
If so, How do you get it fixed if it is broken?
(Please include a method for those not having a "Premium Acct" Alt.)

My Alt Account with this status can NOT get to Arapaima.,
I keep getting the dialog box saying I need to verify.
Supposedly this Alt "Is Verified", at least according to what has been announced,
But it is NOT working. so how do I(& others) get it fixed?

Please Help,
~Hyp


PS. Has any one gotten to Arapaima with just Xstreet-PIOF,
Not Acct. page PIOF?