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Niall Dragonash
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09-07-2008 13:11
I am coming in really late on this thread, and admit I have not read all of the posts.

I am curious about two things that there is not detail about in the pirst post:

1.) I own half a SIM+, I have a couple Billboards and small ads up. My build is 'Urban' and I have things up like Gas station signs, for rent and shop signs, will I need a permit for these?

2.) Directly in the center of my build there are three seperate 16sq-m plots that the owner, an admitted ad agency, owns, will not sell but also has not put any prims out on at all. It really is of no use to them, they only log on once a month with their OBVIOUS alt. I can not claim them as abandoned. This leaves obvious holes in my build and obstructs anything I do want to put around them (Big hole in the middle of a road) and is nothing but a thorn in my side. From what I gather so far, I am just out of luck. Will 16m plots ba restricted if there are no ads or inflated prices?
Proxima Saenz
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09-07-2008 13:11
Or you just rent on a privat estate lol.
Give me one reason why MainLand is so important for the other residents?
And there is a lot of mainland, isnt there a sim without ads?

I visited a lot of sims the past few months and I never see an Adfarm...
So I dont think there are that many of them though.
Marianne McCann
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09-07-2008 13:14
From: Proxima Saenz
I visited a lot of sims the past few months and I never see an Adfarm...
So I dont think there are that many of them though.


Are you visiting island or mainland? There are still plenty out there.
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Drongle McMahon
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09-07-2008 13:16
From: Blaccard Burks
.... and I quote {a certain well known user of adplots}" In Second Life you pay for the land, not the view" ....
A wonderful quotation - the pinnacle of hypocrisy. And who do you suppose would be the first to complain when anyone blocks the view of his adplots?
Proxima Saenz
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09-07-2008 13:20
I visit Mainland:)

But remember that your *vieuw* are just a bunch of pixels.
If you IM the owner of the ads, you are able to find a nice solution.
Maybe the owner of the ad farms is willing to remove a few, so you have a nice *vieuw* aagain.

Personally I would just go for privat islands though.
Renee Roundfield
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09-07-2008 13:23
I would like to see some of the mini parcels by roads turned into waystations where people can re-rez vehicles. Tight auto return would be fine.
Shoshana Epsilon
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Selling the parcels
09-07-2008 13:27
There is a problem here ... once these micro parcels are no longer of any use to the advertisers, they are still of use as blackmail pieces. "I will sell you this piece of land for 50 million bucks. You know, the one that you surround on all four sides."

I'm like parcel neighbors to have priority on these parcels and for there to be a limit on the amount of money someone can sell it for. Otherwise, its blackmail.
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09-07-2008 13:28
From: Renee Roundfield
I would like to see some of the mini parcels by roads turned into waystations where people can re-rez vehicles. Tight auto return would be fine.


THAT is a great idea! I hope it's implemented. People have wanted rezzing areas for a very long time adjacent to the Linden Roads. Maybe the moles can put up some landscaping on some of them too.
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Kara Spengler
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09-07-2008 13:28
From: Proxima Saenz

And there is a lot of mainland, isnt there a sim without ads?

No.
Carl Metropolitan
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09-07-2008 13:34
From: Luke Termagant
But do not worry - the SL competiton is growing.


Then please go build your ad farms on this new Second Life competition. Sell all your land in Second Life--because after all it is going to collapse soon as COMMUNISM takes root, right?
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Esther Merryman
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09-07-2008 13:39
From: Carl Metropolitan
Then please go build your ad farms on this new Second Life competition. Sell all your land in Second Life--because after all it is going to collapse soon as COMMUNISM takes root, right?


Hopefully :-)
Kara Spengler
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09-07-2008 13:42
From: Proxima Saenz
I visit Mainland:)
But remember that your *vieuw* are just a bunch of pixels.

Fine. Get your ad out of my pixels then.
Kara Spengler
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09-07-2008 13:44
From: Carl Metropolitan
Then please go build your ad farms on this new Second Life competition. Sell all your land in Second Life--because after all it is going to collapse soon as COMMUNISM takes root, right?


Wouldn't it be the pefect example of capitalism? How many people go to AdSim versus how many people go to RelaxingSim? :)
Proxima Saenz
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09-07-2008 13:47
I might have a solution.

Devide the mainland into two parts.
50 % for Ad Farms
50% for other residents to live at.

That is fair for both groups.

The Ad farm people will place their ads and annoy each other.
While the other residents enjoy their nice vieuws.
Masiko Preis
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Heh heh... slight addendum
09-07-2008 13:51
From: Talarus Luan
then dumps the rest to the land bots and his adfarmer buddies, who immediately show up, erect 50m high obelisks advertising, you guessed it, their own widget store.


That would be a problem. Of course, my experience with AdFarmers has been slightly different.. the ads never seeming to be consciously targeted towards an audience (not that I doubt your scenario exists) but randomly generated, and consisting primarily of sex services and sex gear.

So instead of widget ads in front of your widget store scenario, maybe you're a single female resident inviting some friends and your boss over for tea and pastries because you want to show off and brag about your cool new fish tank, but you teleport home you find out that someone has erected three tremendous glowing cubes advertising an escort service on one side of your house right outside your kitchen window, and single immense rotating cube with pictures of ladies with tremendous bare breasts and a creative rope arrangement that covers nothing now sits on the edge of your lawn, handing out note cards and landmarks to invite all your friends to visit "Bondage R Us".
Proxima Saenz
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09-07-2008 13:55
From: Masiko Preis
That would be a problem. Of course, my experience with AdFarmers has been slightly different.. the ads never seeming to be consciously targeted towards an audience (not that I doubt your scenario exists) but randomly generated, and consisting primarily of sex services and sex gear.

So instead of widget ads in front of your widget store scenario, maybe you're a single female resident inviting some friends and your boss over for tea and pastries because you want to show off and brag about your cool new fish tank, but you teleport home you find out that someone has erected three tremendous glowing cubes advertising an escort service on one side of your house right outside your kitchen window, and single immense rotating cube with pictures of ladies with tremendous bare breasts and a creative rope arrangement that covers nothing now sits on the edge of your lawn, handing out note cards and landmarks to invite all your friends to visit "Bondage R Us".



Hmm that would be very very annoying.
In this case I'd contact the owner of these Ads and simply ask her if she can remove her things.. If she does not do that, you can always put a prim between your land and the Ad and put a nice texture on it ;)
Ordinal Malaprop
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09-07-2008 13:58
Or, one could campaign for the removal of aggressive advertising rubbish and have it removed.
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Proxima Saenz
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09-07-2008 14:01
Noooo
Like a linden said in a vid tutorial...
Its always better to stay nice when you are communicating with another resident.
That way you achieve more with less stress :)
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09-07-2008 14:15
Campaigning for the removal of aggressive advertising seems to have had a greater effect.
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Puppet Shepherd
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09-07-2008 14:17
From: Proxima Saenz
Hmm that would be very very annoying.
In this case I'd contact the owner of these Ads and simply ask her if she can remove her things.. If she does not do that, you can always put a prim between your land and the Ad and put a nice texture on it ;)


From this and your previous posts, I'm trying to determine whether you're trolling this thread or if you're geniunely ignorant of the hell that many residents have gone through trying to win a small victory against the adfarmers. Negotiating and being nice to them simply doesn't work 99% of the time - it only makes them try harder to be annoying.
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Senga Tsarchon
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09-07-2008 14:31
From: Proxima Saenz
I visit Mainland:)

But remember that your *vieuw* are just a bunch of pixels.
If you IM the owner of the ads, you are able to find a nice solution.
Maybe the owner of the ad farms is willing to remove a few, so you have a nice *vieuw* aagain.

Personally I would just go for privat islands though.

YOU are a bunch of pixels. So are the rest of us. We've agreed to treat these pixels as if they make up a virtual world full of real individuals.

By your logic, there should be no consequences to anything that happens in SL, since it's all just a bunch of pixels.

So why should anyone care? Why should anyone's opinion matter?

Because we choose to care, and we choose to make it matter.
Drongle McMahon
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09-07-2008 14:36
From: Proxima Saenz
Hmm that would be very very annoying.
In this case I'd contact the owner of these Ads and simply ask her if she can remove her things.. If she does not do that, you can always put a prim between your land and the Ad and put a nice texture on it ;)
First, if you ask her to remove them she will simply detect that the ad is working and increase the price. Second, if you try to block her plot, she will AR you.
Florencio Paulino
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Licencing Procedure
09-07-2008 14:52
This is one of the best decisions that LL has done in a loooong time! I'm all for the freedom and lack of restrictions currently enjoyed in SL, but that freedom gets abused more often than not. So this move by LL to start restricting some its core areas is very welcomed.

I am wondering one thing though. What's going to be the procedure for acquiring a licence? Who is going to be responsible for accepting or rejecting the applicants and what requirements are they going to have to meet in order to get one? And is LL going to make them wait till October 1st before they can start applying for these licences?

If anybody knows anything about this I would be very interested in hearing about it. I'm intrigued about how LL is going to handle this. Hopefully it'll be done well!
Rasmus Pennell
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I am delighted!
09-07-2008 14:53
Thanks for taking care of that. It already seems to show some efforts since I saw them tiny parcels on sale for less than 7L per sqm which I appreciated =) so we can start healing our wrecked sights and views and join the former eyesores with the beauty of our creations
Starfire Desade
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09-07-2008 14:57
From: Proxima Saenz
In this case I'd contact the owner of these Ads and simply ask her if she can remove her things.


You're joking, right?

From: Proxima Saenz
If she does not do that, you can always put a prim between your land and the Ad and put a nice texture on it ;)


And then she contacts LL for you blocking her ads.
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