A HATEFUL dedication to Linden Lab!

I decided to post this here because I know Linden Lab reads the topics here, as they mentioned in the description. I will probably get suspended or even banned for making this topic, but even though I hope not, I don't give a damn if it happens. I am moving to the Open Sim system anyway and making my sims there so I don't care.

I wanted to make a post here and tell everyone who is a Linden that I *hate* them very very VERY much, not for what they did to me in Second Life but for what they did to me in Real life. When I was 16 years old and was still a bit new to the internet and mentally weak, I joined the Main grid, hoping to find a beautiful place full of people and play there happily with everyone else. I started hanging there and I enjoyed the place there very very much. I had a important part of my life inside SL, and spent a lot of my time there.

Seeing porn and adult content never harmed me one bit... but later on, I started having to fear Linden as they started rumors about wanting to ban us from there, later on beginning with things like the "age verification" system though that was shortly after I became 18.

Because of them and many other web pages, I started being afraid of coming there or online, and started being scared that Linden was going to ban me from my Second life, and wondered if it was something wrong with me or if I done something wrong that they didn't want to let me join there. I had absolutely no problem with seeing adult content, and I wasn't bothering anyone else... and still they didn't want to let me be there. Same with other sites over the internet. I am not from the US or America, so I am unsure what's wrong with people there, but I spent a part of my life online in total, and spent a good time in the past on SL.

Anyway, because of the bashing and threatening I have received, especially from Linden as other sites just had text lines about wanting underages to leave, I am close to becoming 19 in a few months, and am scared to watch a porn picture, because I still have a feeling that the government is going to come and rape me because I am not allowed to watch such content, and feel like only looking at a picture of sex is a criminal act, and I have to be scared of my own instincts.

In other words, by treating me as a criminal for being a underage, Linden Lab has mentally raped me while I was still in a sensible state of mind, just because I wanted to hang on the main grid like a normal person and be treated like everyone else. I mostly thought I was going to get fixed after I became 18, but it seems I am still afraid to even watch a picture because of the experience I had in my online life with Linden Lab, and I don't think I can have a normal mind and thinking because of this in the next maybe 3-4 years maybe if I'm lucky. I know of course Linden doesn't care they ruin people's brains, and they are probably even happy about it from how I know them, but I still wanted to post this. Yes, that is the underage "protection" Linden runs for children... one that mentally rapes them for years and makes them afraid to watch a picture of porn, even after they become 18. Many sites do that, but they don't get to people as much as a thing like SL does.

Anyway, the reason I made this topic was not only to inform Linden that they are ruining the brains of little children who are mentally weak by bashing them and interrogating them for ID and not allowing them to have the same rights as normal people, but also to tell them that I hate them very much for what they did to me and the way they bashed me back then, and I hope that everyone who is a Linden here burns in hell for all the children they bashed and messed up, including me.

I hope that once the people at Linden Lab will have children, they will get raped in such a way that they will be afraid to even hear the word "porn" or see the number 18 until they are like 40 years old and they get over their block! You Lindens are monsters, and your place is in hell. I had no god damn problems with watching some 3D people f*** with each other, as much as I had being bashed and discriminated like that for my age. I *wanted* to be there willingly, noone forced me to join your grid... I could have been left alone to be there and mind my life without bothering anyone. Some morons don't understand that such a bashing ruins the brains of children! If I could and it was legal, I would set all of your servers on fire and demolish your company in pieces.

I *hate* you, Linden Lab, for mentally raping me, and making me afraid to watch porn any more, and making me feel like a criminal to watch even a god damn picture, even if im close to being 19 years old now. And I would have made this topic here even if I was unable to join back then, because I would have been around and wanted to, and have friends there who I would have wanted to hang with together. I didn't need to mess up my real life because you wouldn't allow me to join Second life, you god damn useless idiots!

I hope your company fails soon, and you end up on the streets with mentally messed up children. You are a danger, and the Main Grid should not exist as long as it is not free for everyone. No, allowing children to watch porn does NOT mess them up, NOT allowing them to and mentally scattering them DOES, you miserable paranoid morons. May your company crash and burn to little pieces, together with your stupid main and teen grid! And may you all get raped by little children who went insane.

I hope I will not get banned for this, but after the years of having to stay this way, I needed to let it all out to the guilty ones. They also probably didn't have any idea their underage protection system is actually an underage raping system. And for your clear information, yes, all this is true, and I hate Linden for it, and because they ruined my life. Making a amazing place and saying "don't enter" is not as simple as it seems. And getting bashed and treated like a worm in every single place you go to because you're "too little" is not fun. And here is the f***ing proof! Be happy now, you morons!

They will likely not stop the age verification system and will not let everyone hang there and be treated equally, so I wish all Lindens to burn in hell for each child they mentally mess up and bully and give unequal treatment to, together with their stinking US government they kept putting the blame on, who are probably no better monsters then the companies and services theirselves.

In case Linden wants to delete this topic, please keep a copy in your logs, and show it to all the other morons at Linden Lab, so they can understand what horrible things they are actually doing. Yeah, at least show it to the top Lindens so they see what they are doing to people! If you dare to leave a reply here after reading this, step ahead and do so. If anyone else wants to make fun of me, bash me or kiss the law's butt, do so as I don't give a damn, it doesn't change the state I was brought into. I'm sorry because I haven't posted this earlier to the company, but I have now. Have a miserable life! - Mircea

I don't believe you. If you have sensitivity to porn now, its not Lindens' fault. Its your parents fault for letting you on the grid. Go whine to them about your paranoia and sensitivity to porn they caused.

You're kidding, right? This is some kind of satire I don't get, isn't it?
MENTALLY RAPED???? Do you get nightmares and feel persecuted because they never let you enter RL establishments that aren't for underage people, too??? D you think you have to curse and wish death to those who wouldn't let you drive a car below a certain age, too? If you drive a car now, does that make you feel like the whole world is out to get you, too?
I mean, did you start out driving a car because it was so much fun, and new and everything, and only LATER discovered that, uh, you weren't supposed to drive it if you're under 18 (where I come from) or under 16 (U.S.) and that scarred you for life???
Besides, LL is a company, not a country, and they can decide whatever rules they want to have to restrict access to a certain group of people. If that is mental rape, I'm so gonna take the owner of that cinema around here to court.

But maybe I just don't get it.

look, LL can't come to your mom's house and yell at her and unplug your computer. Since they can't contact your parents, which would be ideal, the only avenue they have to get through to you is to punish you and make things swiftly unpleasant for you, and make the teen grid more pleasant and welcoming for you. Apparently you got the message, but did not comply. and whose fault is that?
i'm sure if they could have talked to your parents at that time you would have not been allowed on the main grid one way or another. and if your parents didn't care enough to watch over you and keep you out, then i'm truly sorry for you. you can't blame ll for using every tactic at their disposal to discourage your from the going where you don't belong,.

ps i stopped reading after the phrase "mental rape". Thats and <EOM> mark and i'm sure further reading would not have served any purpose.

/me blinks, tries to respond, then runs the hell away from this thread.

Don't feed the trolls!!

No, I am not kidding, that I can say for sure. There are people who are more sensitive to things at small ages, and bashing applies. And its not like driving a car, it is hanging in a community of people like yourself, which is far more different.

Things like this do happen, and are not funny at all. I just decided to let it out tonight because I simply felt the need to. I may have exaggerated a little bit, but all of this is true and honest, and yes I hate linden for it, they are scams and bullies. Linden and other online services ruined my view of the world and life with such a behavior, you know. And if my parents didn't let me they'd be doing the same thing.

SL is a 3D space you actually live in, which can become part of your life, and having to be somewhere like that where you are bashed and threatened really isn't the greatest thing. I didn't post about it cuz I didn't want to get bashed any more, but seeing them doing the same thing to other people annoys me very badly. Didn't want to get so personal here, but some probably experienced similar stories, so they may understand what I'm talking about. But rather I like it or not this is what happened to me, and yes I wanted to speak about it because noone deserves such a thing in my opinion.

You said 16. What's the big difference between 16 and 18???? I wasn't more malleable at age 16 than at age 18, it would make a difference if you were, like, ten years old. But 16 or 18 is just a legal decision, not really one of being mature enough-lots of things have changed from 18 down to 16 in some countries, or from 21 down to 18 and then 16, because there's not much of a difference. There are people who are still easy to influece and sensitive that are 30, 40, or 50. I don't see what LL's fault is. THEY STATE CLEARLY THAT YOU HAVE TO BE 18.
So???

The only thing that got raped here is the word raped.

This person needs some serious help, and not because of any damage done by LL or SL. And I urge him to get it, quickly.

The linguist has to agree.

It is people like yourselves and parents like the ones you describe, the reason why children go depressed and lock theirselves in their rooms listening to emo music and cutting theirselves, or in worse cases committing suicide or grabbing a pistol and murdering 10 students and 5 professors like you see at the news recently.

For some people here this is stupid, as they are still from the older generation where you program your child with a stick or with not giving them candy when they do something wrong. For people like the ones here, someone going through such stress or depression is called being "emo kid" and it's something funny and to laugh of. For me though, it is not funny or something that should be ignored.

And yes, it is called mental rape. Want another example of how easy it is to mentally rape someone who is young?; take a 10 year old to a door they never open in their house a few times, and tell them that if they open it, a monster comes out of there and eats him/her alive. Depending on the situation, there is a big chance that kid can get a mental block/trauma for several years. Didn't know about that, did you? In case you find that term exaggerated though, call it anything you want, the idea itsself you get.

Ah, and I can also make a forum like this one, and "state" that you have to not be a "nigger" to enter, and if you are one you cannot. Don't mean anything by that of course, I'm not into that whites-vs-blacks idiocricy, and I even find it offending... just stating that as a technical example. I can state in anything that I want... I can even state that you have to sit in your head upside down to read my topic.

Anyway, it doesn't matter for me what your psychology is, or what mine is supposed to be or anything. That statement and the violence of Linden Lab have influenced my real life in a bad way. It doesn't matter how, accordingly to what policies... it just did. They are technically responsible what they've done to me, and I want a explanation for this. I have used their services, a 3D space which includes emotional involvement and virtually living there, and they have used it against me. Preventing such things from happening is NOT done through throwing people away like junk. I was mentally affected in a intense way by the bashing they have done to me, and I am demanding for explanations about this.

I do not require everyone to just jump up and believe every single word I say, but if you don't want to believe, at least consider I may be telling the truth here. And if what I am saying is true (which it is), I am likely not the only person in this world who has had (or will have) such problems with Linden Labs service.

Treating and scaring people like that only harms some. It is pure fact, I did not invent people's minds. If you don't like how children exist, blame god or something, but they have a emotional status that is easily influenced. Mental weakness depends on many factors. I do not find it right or normal for other people to have to go through this, so I am talking against it. This is what makes the internet a danger to kids... not some useless badly drawn porn.

Wow. I was reading this thinking it must be some kind of joke, but obviously it's not. If I understood this properly, you're getting angry at LL for 'raping' children, who shouldn't be on the grid anyway? I won't even try to decipher this, but as someone else said, get some professional help NOW. It appears that Second Life isn't for you, and no-one needs to see your paranoid rantings. Get help, please.

All I can say is that this is a perfect example of why children under the age of 18 should never be allowed on the main grid. It kind of makes the case for age verification, now doesn't it?

This is the most barking thread I've yet to read on these forums.

Stay the hell away from my Grid, you lunatic. Or God will strike you down and turn your feet into cat litter.

I have suffered from a mental disorder, part of which is depression, and I feel well and thoroughly mocked by what you write. so I'm a whiny kid that got on the wrong side of "evil reality"?

I have already stated you're not ten years old. If you can't stand the "mental pressure" of being in SL now that you're over 18, why do you think it would have been different if you STARTED at 18??? Or do you want to say that SL in itself should be abolished as it's dangerous???

And if ANYONE compares legal age limits ONE MORE TIME to any old rubbish like "keeping gays/black people/Germans/little pink dogs out of some place" I'm going to explode.

And I have NOT been programmed with a stick by my parents either. I still don't get your point. The "violence" of LL???? What's that universe you're living in?

Hello again Mircea. I remember your feelings on this topic, from your thread last September.
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I am sorry to see you still so angry and unresolved.

LL's rules restricting minors to PG areas are not intended to hurt anyone, but simply to allow LL to conform with the law. I myself do not like many aspects of their verification policy, but I don't feel it damages me - only them.

Consider that millions of children worldwide have grown up with parents or institutions imposing similar limitations on them, without experiencing the trauma you clearly feel. I cannot help but suspect that the source of your anger lies in things that happened quite a while before you encountered Second Life.

Finally, the Lindens do not often read the forums. If you intend for them to get this message, sending it directly to their customer service or to an executive might work better. However, let me caution you: if you are this emotional about it, they may not respond at all. If you want to convince them to change their policy, you will have to get control of your hurt and dismay, and make your points calmly. Throwing around words such as "rape" will only hurt your cause.

I was just stating i am like that from NOT being allowed on the main grid like how others where. Im surprised though honestly... thought there should be other people who had such issues with LL. I am not joking, I thought posting this will make sense but it seems people find it weird for some reason. Whats so weird, I find it logical. I feel like you are probably the ones trying to make fun of me right now... dunno.

And don't worry, I am a perfectly logical and moral person. Even if I am depressed because of certain events, I am taking about this perfectly conscious and truthful. The fact I have different fears and problems does not make me insane or something o.o. Anyway, I am not here to consult the community for their opinions. This was wrote to Linden so they realize what they are doing by bashing people. They must know what happens with their services, no?

Since I have posted my point and message, and requested the issue to be resolved by REMOVING the people selection system (not making it worse), I have nothing else to any more do on this topic. Just letting Linden know I hate them very much and that yes, they have done thing to me with this, and that they are starting to become responsible for people having problems in real life. I hope i didn't make a mistake that will get them think they must do worse instead of better.

Luckily though, sim hosting outside of LL is coming, so this will dampen things a bit and allow people to come together an keep their life without having to go through this. After that, linden and the government can kiss children's butts as much as they want. Anyway, I simply just believed I should let them know this, alongside my hate dedication. I am through here, so feel free to exchange opinions freely. I don't feel like arguing over some completely obvious things.

Also, if Linden wants to point me to some survey about their services, please PM me (as I will stop reading this topic) and i will complete the survey and mention my concern clearly. Otherwise, unless I have business, I don't want to have anything to do with Linden again, nor with careless and closed minded people to have pointless theory wars about how funny bashing people is and is not.

[edit, as i was writing before Nika posted] - Firstly, thank you for posting a calm reply to this. True, I understand some parents are concerned with some worries, even if they are not real, but some people have no fault. I also know the US government has gone paranoid over some things, but I believe someone needs to resolve some issues. I am not from the US like I said, so I don't know for certain how things go or how horrible it's like there. I am surprised noone else has been so bothered by this, as I posted considering this is a normal thing to happen for some and others may have had the issue. Probably some didn't get into SL as much or really lived in it as in a second life. I will probably message them personally in that case though, thank you for the advice.

wow........................

I simply can't understand or sympathise with your delusional rantings. It's for this very reason that I am now very happy about verification, and can only hope that they flush out all underagers from the grid, if only to prevent disturbed individuals like this from having such an 'awful and discriminating experience'. I guess that you think that under 18's should be allowed to decide whether they can drink alcohol or go to clubs. If you can't see that these age requirements are in place for a reason get some glasses, or a clue. I had an experience that I would like to share that I think is important to this.

I used to do promotions at a nightclub in Surfers Paradise, and one night a very young looking girl approached the door. I gave security a heads up, as she looked underage, but she had a very convincing Id and was let in. 2 hours later this girl was drunk, messy and crying at my side. She said that she had used a fake ID and that she was only 16, that she was being 'harrassed' (ie hit on), and that the behaviour in the club was 'sick and gross' ( people were DANCING and making out in full view of her oooh-aaah!).

Moral of the story is, there are reasons for age limits on things. Yes, there are some very mature under-18s, but there has to be some sort of regulation. To me, Mircea, you appear to be extremely immature, and should probably not even be on the gird now, let alone then. Heaven forbid if you have any children, they would probably be crack smoking prostitutes by the time they are 14, with your whole 'Don't discriminate us becausewe're young!' deal.You would let your 14 year old smoke, drink and watch porn? That's what you're saying. Stop blaming LL and go and see a shrink.

i believe you
i would never mock or make fun of somebody's experiences
i believe your experience was just as you described
and i believe that your feelings are genuine

Erm... I am not delusional? Just a bit surprised... o.O I am just annoyed and yes, depressed and very annoyed to a point, because I have a right to be. I am following this topic clearly and fully conscious, and know what I am talking about. In the worse case, I just had a probably more rare problem, and a unique vision on things, but I still find this revolting.

If I need to see a shrink, it is to fix my brain after it has been danaged by idiocricies, to get rid of fears the US government arrests me cuz im a children looking at a picture. How can you still say it is a good thing when I am clearly telling you it is the reason why I got this way? You want to make it *worse*? Really I cannot any more handle such a discussion, please contact me in PM for anything else but I believe I have no more to talk about on this topic. Some people are practically unaware of dangerous things around them... that is all I can say.

IF you aren't trolling and are actually serious about this, your feelings of hatred toward the Lindens are very much misplaced.

If this is supposed to be some kind of satire / joke / whatever, I think you're an idiot.

Either way, banning would be ideal for you.

P2

Some people online can be very weird, that I can say for sure. I mean these are some obvious things, and an idiot can only be someone who cannot understand some obvious things. I don't want to force others to think like me, but I don't understand why people react so violently on this. Anyway, I suggest a mod or someone to lock this topic fast...

The last thread that you started that was very similar to this one turned into 14 pages very quickly. You can't expect to say demented things without people reacting, then expect it to be locked when you say so. You opened the door, deal with it. This thread should be locked, but only because noone needs to see your paranoid rantings.