What about Bots?

We're not talking about bots in this part of the thread - remember? In fact, the example I gave is having a party that fills the sim so that nobody else can get in. I pay for the sim and I have a right/entitlement to do that.

But as I said, your opinion is different to mine - does it matter?

If I buy a car, then, I have the right to drive it 140 MPH on the freeway, or I get my money back, correct?

You don't have a right to 40 avatars, let alone a right to log them all in on the same sim. If you have a party, that party will be eventually be over, and then other people will be able to fly over. This ONLY is an issue if you fill the sim with bots. It's all about bots. Without bots there isn't a thread.

Don't be silly.

I have a right to fill the sim with 40 avatars - at a party, for instance. Try to get your mind off the idea of one person logging all the avatars in - that's not what we're discussing here. Better still, accept the fact that I have a different opinion to you. It won't hurt

A party will not fill the sim continually, for ever. Only bots will do that.

Only bots.

As for what "right" means, that's not "opinion", that's "law".

And if I'm being silly for expecting to use the car I bought at 140 MPH just because the engine's capable of it, then you're just as silly for expecting to fill your sim, just because it's got room.

So? We are still not talking about bots in this part of the thread. A party was just an example. I can do many things to fill the sim with avs 24/7 - place 40 camping pads, for instance. That would do it, and I'd have a right/entitlement to do it.

You're silly because you are trying equate the possessing of a car to driving it on public roads at illegal speeds. The only parallel in your example is, if you pay for a car, you have a right/entitlement to have it, or your money back.

Why don't you just accept that your opinion is different to mine?

Bot Bot

*runs*

Silent! Back in your box, NOW!

bri i will reg more bots today

There's a reason why rulings issued by courts are called opinions.

Contracts often don't nail down every conceivable occurrence. Reasonable people can disagree as to the meaning of a contract once a particular situation arises. While the courts would prefer that the parties settle on their own, sometimes courts are asked to interpret a contract on behalf of the parties. The court will do its best, and issue a ruling that is then binding; it can be appealed because of errors in law or process, but not simply because one party disagrees with it. It's entirely possible that a different judge, in the same exact jurisdiction, could have reached a different conclusion. Had that happened, it would have been just as binding. Decisions made by the lowest levels of the court system don't set binding precedents for other courts. Our legal system recognizes that things aren't always clear, and accepts the principle that sometimes judges have to rely on a matter of opinion in making a decision.

So arguing that this is all a matter of law is silly. Contract law is complex on its own, and it's made even more complex by consumer protection laws. The points you've made are certainly reasonable, but they're not even close to being a thorough examination of all the legal issues that could arise. If this ever did have to be decided by a judge, the judge would have to decide: which, if any, consumer protection laws apply; whether the contract or individual parts of it are even enforceable; what terms and conditions were implied by the actions of the parties; what terms and conditions are implied by actual practice; what terms and conditions could be inferred as being necessary to realistically deliver on the explicit parts of the contract; and so on.

IANAL, but I know enough to recognize some shades of grey. I doubt any lawyer would declare the issues to be cut and dry, and certainly not without more research.

Trouble is
Botys are usually used to artificially inflate popularity figures
and inflate the log-on figures for Linden labs

So on the whole -bad BAD B A D


'cept you -always one exception

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Maybe we should get omeone to hand out free bot clients so we can just flood SL mainland and welcome areas with identical bot avatars that just wander around like noobs randomly, till the media start noticing them. So whenever you login just login your alts on the bot client and leave them wander ahern or Hanja or Linden Village.

The Bot Liberation Front ! Campaigning against the misuse of bots!

Have the bots carry signboards / sandwich boards with a slogan and 'click me for info' handing out a notecard.
Even non-bots can carry the signs.

Any of the free collar/leash scripts could be used to lead a line of BLF bots around.
Bots on leashes? A contradiction? Nope. A symbol!

i think they should be used like they were in the Movie I Robot..
do everything for us.then when one gets out of line and starts to think freely.
we send Will smith over to the house where the rogue bot is that was probably rewired by some person that didn't know what they were doing.

*wire strippers hit the floor* i was trimming flowers