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3Ring Binder
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09-21-2008 08:54
if the brother is real, and the situation is real, CPS needs to be called. they will remove him from the home, force psychiatric analysis, and get him the help he needs. the parents will have to pay for it though, so i suspect the needed help will never happen.
i'm not sure why the brother - and not the parents - is the one taking the responsibility for this problem... and if the whole thing is true, that makes the parents seem even less capable of parenting their own children, and they should ALL be removed.
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Colette Meiji
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09-21-2008 08:59
From: 3Ring Binder if the brother is real, and the situation is real, CPS needs to be called. they will remove him from the home, force psychiatric analysis, and get him the help he needs. the parents will have to pay for it though, so i suspect the needed help will never happen.
i'm not sure why the brother - and not the parents - is the one taking the responsibility for this problem... and if the whole thing is true, that makes the parents seem even less capable of parenting their own children, and they should ALL be removed. Alternatively .. The Original Poster is 40 ... He is not complaining about his Brother's SL addiction, but rather his own... He lives in his Mother's basement... His Mother and Linden Labs won't do anything to stop his addiction and thus its not his fault he wont get one with his life.
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09-21-2008 09:02
From: Colette Meiji Alternatively .. The Original Poster is 40 ... He is not complaining about his Brother's SL addiction, but rather his own... He lives in his Mother's basement... His Mother and Linden Labs won't do anything to stop his addiction and thus its not his fault he wont get one with his life. or even moer likely.... all made up to create a controversial thread. boredom.
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Colette Meiji
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09-21-2008 09:03
From: 3Ring Binder or even moer likely.... all made up to create a controversial thread. boredom. My version explains why he has cheetos stains.
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09-21-2008 09:04
From: Colette Meiji My version explains why he has cheetos stains. with a little imagination, mine could as well.
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Rika Watanabe
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09-21-2008 09:05
From: 3Ring Binder if the brother is real, and the situation is real... The reality of the brother has been doubted with good arguments in the thread multiple times already, and none of the arguments was well refuted. The statements about the brother contradict each other or are technologically impossible. (SL through a proxy in Africa? You've got to be kidding me.) There is only one possible way that the OP is not a troll -- if they are lying and misrepresenting the situation. Which means that if the brother actually exists, he is in no way in a condition as dire as the OP would have us believe, or probably, not even addicted. And as a side note, as far as I know, APA took the Internet Addiction off the list recently because they could not show it to be a mental disorder. 
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09-21-2008 09:08
From: Colette Meiji Alternatively ..
The Original Poster is 40 ...
He is not complaining about his Brother's SL addiction, but rather his own...
He lives in his Mother's basement...
His Mother and Linden Labs won't do anything to stop his addiction and thus its not his fault he wont get one with his life. 
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Colette Meiji
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09-21-2008 09:08
From: 3Ring Binder with a little imagination, mine could as well. See I don't want to think about trolls being amorously attached to their threads .. 
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Deira Llanfair
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09-21-2008 09:10
From: GingerBelle Juliesse Hi, I'm new to the Second Life forums. Anyway, this thread certainly got my attention! I suppose joeypt may be a troll, but this type of thing really could happen. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8hfK3RQs2gI know this kid was addicted to World of Warcraft, but still. . . As for me, I've been on Second Life for about a month now and loving it!  Yes, when these things happen it is a very serious matter. If I take this one at face value and try to be pragmatic then the person who is best placed to do something about the situation is joept. We can do nothing. LL can do nothing. Even the parents can do nothing unless they are made aware of the situation. Never mind who is legally responsible; never mind who is to blame; never mind even if the brother is fictitious. Joept is there and aware of the problem and Joept should therefore take action - and I mean more action than just posting on this board!
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Mortus Allen
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09-21-2008 10:03
None the less the facts remain. If the OPs brother is not considered an adult where they live his parents are still responsible for his activities regardless of their knowledge or the legality of those activities. If the OPs brother is threatening to take any life, or becoming more aggressive as the OP claims it is the parents responsibility to deal with it and if its beyond the scope of what they can deal with then to make sure the OPs brother receives the proper professional help.
The registration clearly states you have to be 18+ and that you agree to this, this is no different then any other 18+ game on the internet that is not porn related. In fact you can get an M rated 18+ console game with little to no hassle at all if you are under age. Only porn site that are X to XXX require some form of payment info on file as "Age Verification" as well as the I am 21+ check box. None of these measure are meant to absolve parents of there responsibilities to be aware of their children's actions and take steps to correct them if need be.
The blame and I Will Sue cultures are prime examples of the breakdown of our civilization and an unwillingness to take responsibility for ones actions or lack there of.
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Tod69 Talamasca
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09-21-2008 12:19
For the OP: Didja kill him yet ??? 
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Rebecca Proudhon
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09-21-2008 12:54
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Good job joegypt. srsly. You flustered them. Are they deleting the questions at Yahoo Answers too quick? plz, tell the OT board to come here to make this forum more interesting.
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3Ring Binder
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09-21-2008 13:39
From: Rika Watanabe The reality of the brother has been doubted with good arguments in the thread multiple times already, and none of the arguments was well refuted. The statements about the brother contradict each other or are technologically impossible. (SL through a proxy in Africa? You've got to be kidding me.) while i don't argue your analysis, i will say this abot the WHOLE thing: i'm sort of coming from the place that i don't believe the OP is on the up n up. BUT..... it is VERY possible that someone who IS living this experience is reading this thread. for that, i think it's our duty to offer real advice along with the snarkinesswe are spewing. IF someone out there is living this addiction, or knows someone who is.... get yourself (or them) some help. even if that means ratting out your parents. parents are not experts and sometimes they need help learning how to parent better. it's not a weakness, it's a reality. one is far more respected when they face practical issues with a realistic approach, and save the crow eating for private consumption.
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09-21-2008 13:40
From: Colette Meiji See I don't want to think about trolls being amorously attached to their threads ..  yes. i can see why you would say that.
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09-21-2008 13:42
From: Rebecca Proudhon 10/10 Good job joegypt. srsly. You flustered them. Are they deleting the questions at Yahoo Answers too quick? plz, tell the OT board to come here to make this forum more interesting. oh. you're still around. i heard you were dead. my bad.
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Gabriele Graves
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09-21-2008 14:55
If the OP's brother really exists and his problems really are real as described then WTF is the OP asking a bunch of the strangers in the internet to give him solutions to those problems for? Does he really think there are going to be answers for that he can really fix the problems with without getting local professional and/or parental help?
Seriously, Resident Answers are for questions and answers about Second Life - not "how can I fix my life" type questions. At least that's my understanding.
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09-21-2008 15:55
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joeypt Plutonian
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09-26-2008 16:16
From: Trout Recreant We aren't nasty to other residents looking for answers. The OP has repeatedly lied to us to the point where nobody really even believes this brother exists. He has refused to even acknowledge legitimate answers and the ones he has acknowledged he has found a story (completely inconsistent with his earlier story) to explain why it won't work.
He isn't looking for answers, he's looking to troll here and to blame someone else for his self-created problems.
That said, pretend the brother exists for a moment. All of your solutions to the problem first require his parents to get him off of SL long enough to go take classes in RL or engage in the other activities. If it's as bad as his brother says, then that's going to require something as drastic as shutting his access of entirely. Plus, if he is really as addicted as his brother says, it would be like taking an alcoholic and getting them a job as a bartender. He needs a clean break, not more computer time. Wow, Im really shocked at how the community has fallen to this extent. I wouldn't even be posting to get the response from these fools if I didn't have the few minutes of free time now. "The OP has repeatedly lied to us" . Accusing me of lying at this point is ridiculous considering I never said anything contridictary and have no purpose to lie. I refused to acknowledge legitamate answers? I told you why they weren't answers. My brother is very experiened in sneaking around using a false IP, proxies, and knows how to overcome passwords. I came here to troll? Trolling about a topic like this is useless. Okay pretend my brother exists.??? Extremely rude on your part. My brother does exist. I was looking for an answer here. I thought some knowledgable residents still existed here. Obviously with all the idiots coming here, they found other places to invest their time and money. The only solution now is to seek professional help which is what I am in the proccess of doing.
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Conan Godwin
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09-26-2008 16:20
From: joeypt Plutonian Wow, Im really shocked at how the community has fallen to this extent. I wouldn't even be posting to get the response from these fools if I didn't have the few minutes of free time now. "The OP has repeatedly lied to us" . Accusing me of lying at this point is ridiculous considering I never said anything contridictary and have no purpose to lie. I refused to acknowledge legitamate answers? I told you why they weren't answers. My brother is very experiened in sneaking around using a false IP, proxies, and knows how to overcome passwords. I came here to troll? Trolling about a topic like this is useless. Okay pretend my brother exists.??? Extremely rude on your part. My brother does exist. I was looking for an answer here. I thought some knowledgable residents still existed here. Obviously with all the idiots coming here, they found other places to invest their time and money. The only solution now is to seek professional help which is what I am in the proccess of doing. Did he kill himself yet? If not then you have nothing to report. Come back another time.
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Conan Godwin
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09-26-2008 16:22
From: 3Ring Binder if the brother is real, and the situation is real, CPS needs to be called. they will remove him from the home, force psychiatric analysis, and get him the help he needs. the parents will have to pay for it though, so i suspect the needed help will never happen. That seems a bit harsh; just because the kid picked his nose and became an emo.
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3Ring Binder
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09-26-2008 17:02
From: joeypt Plutonian The only solution now is to seek professional help which is what I am in the proccess of doing. Where are your parents in all of this? Why aren't THEY seeking professional help for him?
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09-26-2008 17:02
From: joeypt Plutonian Hi, my brother is 16, he's been playing second life since he was 14. Since he's been playing Second Life, he's had no social life, participated in very few social activities, and has been failing in school. Just curious.... hasn't the school been knocking at your door? Otherwise... sounds like a normal teenager to me. (I can't believe I read this whole thread.)
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Gabriele Graves
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09-26-2008 17:52
From: Oryx Tempel Just curious.... hasn't the school been knocking at your door? Otherwise... sounds like a normal teenager to me. (I can't believe I read this whole thread.) I can't beleive you did either 
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Kokoro Fasching
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09-26-2008 18:51
From: joeypt Plutonian Yes, it is LL's fault. They allow an underaged person to create accounts. It's not my or my parents responsibility to prevent an underaged player from playing SL. It's LL's responsibility. If they want to run a mature game, they need to take extensive measures to prevent children from accessing the game. It is your parent's job to make sure what their children is doing. Period. No one elses. Because if it was my job, I would cut off your hands and lock you in a room with Immy and a potato peeler...
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Nika Talaj
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11-15-2008 11:15
From: Conan Godwin Speaking as an experienced and successful troll myself, I'm going to say ... We all have our hobbies. I'm sure Conan would be the first to agree that anyone who takes him seriously is endangering their serenity. He CAN be a good source of recipes when he feels like it. (those pasties, now?) 
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