Underaged brother

Easier than raising them the normal way.

it's become a world of "gimme" and "owe me". go WORK for your stuffs, including good children. so sad.

lol - I'll take your word for it.

We've definitely become a culture of Self Entitlement and Victimization.The "Good Life" our parents and Grandparents worked so hard to acheive was handed to us, we feel it is owed to us, Now that it is becoming necessary for many to have to work harder than our predecessors, we are becoming bitter and resentful.

A lot of people are working hard. And they still aren't getting to where they would have been a generation ago.And they see those who appear to be getting it without hard work and it mekes them resentful.

Look at the bank fiasco going on now. Who is going to pick up the tab for that? The taxpers. The people who are responsible for it are getting away scot free. The bank executives are getting big buyouts from the banks they helped run into the ground, and the politicians who allowed it to happen are talking about bailouts, and "Paying more taxes is patriotic".And in the truest sense of Patriotism, they will let us assume that debt, then turn around and sell those failed banks to investers in China, India or the Middle East. And they will continue to point fingers at one another and blame everyone but themselves. The fish stinks from the head.

*sorry to derail*

If this is a real situation, then I second this remark:



Any ranting and railing you may wish to do against LL or the rest of the world can wait until after that.

QFT

And many of those people are patiently working two or three jobs to feed their children... So whose fault will it be if their children get into trouble because they were neglected?

While the bankers and accountants (and I am an accountant, I'm sometimes ashamed to say), and executives who've devised the tax shelters, derivatives, and credit-granting schemes get wealthier and just go on to the next scheme, when the current one fails. Is it any wonder many people are weary, disillusioned and exhausted?

I do believe wholeheartedly in personal responsibility. I also believe that if you think doing all the right things (back to raising your kids, i.e., being a good parent) will always have the expected outcome, you are in for a rude awakening in life. Kids with the best parents sometimes go wrong. People work hard all their lives, and still can't get out of poverty..... One has to do the right thing in life (to the best of one's ability) as its own reward. Otherwise, you're doomed to disappointment, bitterness and disillusion.

A 16 year old is not a "child". He's a teenager and he's your parents responsibility, not LL's. They need to start parenting and stop blaming others for their incompetence.

I was referring to Friday, not April.

Anyway, I call shenanigans. Too many inconsistencies, too many earmarks of trolling, the comments about "thread spamming." etc.

Meanwhile, if there is even the slightest shred of truth...



This.

Linden Lab is just a company with a product, and humans are responsible for their own actions in this world.

Mari

Things were different when I was a child. We sat in chairs, with our hands neatly folded, waiting to be told how to have fun. In fact, there were no sentient humans before 1990. Until then, we all ran from EPROMs. That's why sex, drugs, and rock 'n roll weren't invented until 2003.

Your brother has behaved dishonestly. That's because he's dishonest. He was "addicted" to a game before starting to visit SL, but he had to lie to start. No excuse there.

He had to lie to use the internet without permission. No excuse there.

Kids lie about what they're doing when they are trying to get away with something. And here's a surprise for you - your parents were children, too. They know all about this.

They also know it's their responsibility to deal with it. It's also your responsibility, because you are there and you are your brother's brother.

I can't do it - I can't reach through the cable and smack your brother upside the head, no matter how much he needs it.

Linden Lab can't do it. They can't suck the thoughts out of every new user's brain to find the ones who are lying about their age.

Your parents raised a dishonest child who has some serious problems. They know he has problems. They have to solve this.

If you'd like to help, you need to do it on YOUR side of the computer screen. That's where the problem is.

My mother was a single parent, and worked her ass off to raise my brother and I. She never, ever neglected us, even while working two jobs and taking a class or two in the pursuit of bettering herself. She was often low on sleep and experienced struggles I can only begin to imagine, but she knew what her priorities were - US - and any 'trouble' we may have gotten into was entirely mild.

I don't doubt that there are often extenuating circumstances which need to be factored in, but it is still quite possible to be an effective parent despite them.

I went to Burger king.

I ordered a Whopper(tm) with NO MAYO

They put mayo on it.

It's all LL's fault. Imma SUE!

OK this is not any kind of professional advice and I know SL is not a game but search for sites that tell you how to break an addiction. Cold turkey may not be the way to go.


http://www.wikihow.com/Overcome-an-MMORPG-Addiction

As entertained as I am by this silly little troll...I must interject. The drug dealers, weapons dealers and yes, even SL are merely providing a service, a product..albeit an illegal one, except in the case of SL. However, they are NOT responsible for the people CHOOSING to use their service and/or product. People DO have a choice. People, generally are NOT robots, programmed to turn on SL, do drugs or use weapons. They CHOOSE to do these things. SL didn't infiltrate your home, or your brother's brain and inject him with some sort of addictive substance to force him to sit alone coding or making new accounts to use their evil program. To blame anyone but your brother or parents is ludicrous at best. As YOU said, "Children are living spontaneous creatures with minds of their own." Obviously some people in your family are not using theirs. Perhaps you expect SL to come and interview your brother to insure he is not underage. If he is lying over the internet, and as devious or clever as you ascertain, how would they know he IS underage? BTW, it speaks VOLUMES of how a person is raised in regards to the life choices they make. To say a child needs money, so he will get a gun and commit a robbery makes me wonder what kind of environment he was raised in. NOW..GO BACK UNDER YOUR BRIDGE!!!!

-Blu- (the mildly entertained)

wow this post made it 8 pages, im stupified...

You "ahem" brothers' current state of mind is proof of course.
For your information, there are thousands of people developing new content for SL, should they be proscecuted as well? They're definitly all part of the problem.
If you think that raising a child only involves telling them what's right or wrong, then you couldn't be further from the truth. Raising a child also involves rules, and enforcing these. Your parents obviously fail at these. If anything, some governmental institute should take the two of you away from your parents for mental and pedagogic neglect, which is a well documented form of child abuse these days.

Oh brother....

By the way Mr/Mrs OP, your brother is not suicidal because of SL, he is suicidal because of RL and he's using SL to escape it, which in turn results in his addiction.
Logging in to SL is his way of coping. And until you and your family use your heads and work out what it is in RL that is causing him distress AND get him some professional help, he'll keep logging in.

Funny. I actually read this whole thing.

But one point I didn't see mentioned:

When using an Adult (whatever) site, porn, nude pictures, etc etc - You AGREE that you're an adult. By breaking that law, you're releasing the company from any liability.

So, really, you can't sue LL for anything. Your brother released them from liability.

Yup yup. Nice thread. Love the smoke marks.

It's difficult to underestimate the SL forums.

Your brother ... needs a Blair Witch Retreat, try http://jobcorps.dol.gov/

You brother is the only one responsible for entering a known adult world by deception, his talk of suicide is probably at the distain of other people obstructing his chosen life path, it may be the wrong life path it may not be. If everything that is provided to you is provided to him also then he can't complain. If his reasons for suicide are he can't handle adult life yet well then he should stay out of it.
LL is no more responsible for his problem than a beer company if he chose to be an alcoholic bum.
If he sucessfully suicides, he's losing the game, not the rest of the world.
Next time he talks to you about suicde, just laugh at him and say "nah nah na,I'm beating you in the game of life!"
Tell him he'll just be a forgoten dead nobody loser to 99.99999% of the world and obviously can't handle the heat if he's giving up at only Level 16.
And if he's still serious........have him committed to a pshyco ward for his safety and the emotional good of the family.

nice one phil - no internet access no problem.

Sounds like someone needs to get a good ol' dosage of good parenting (beating), and that will fix that problem. Put that coding skill to use and start studying for college or something, but then again, you're prolly just a troll...

/me comes in late.

So is this anything like 'Undercover Brother'?