The Value of your Ethics on the grid...
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Ciaran Laval
Mostly Harmless
Join date: 11 Mar 2007
Posts: 7,951
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05-15-2009 14:39
From: Sling Trebuchet I still think that GBS had it spot on. If you have a price, it doesn't matter if it's 1 or 1,000,000 He does have it spot on and you'd be hard pressed to find someone who doesn't have a price.
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Zim Gunsberg
Just some guy...
Join date: 16 May 2008
Posts: 211
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05-15-2009 14:44
From: 3Ring Binder in RL- if you (unmarried) sleep with your unmarried boss because you love him, then i see nothing wrong with that. if you sleep with him strictly to get ahead, that is appalling. but, that's just me. others would fine that perfectly legitimate business strategy. parallel in SL- if you do the typo tango with your land baron because you love him, then that's cool. if you do it only for free land, that's appalling. LOL 
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Lindal Kidd
Dances With Noobs
Join date: 26 Jun 2007
Posts: 8,371
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05-15-2009 14:45
From: Desmond Shang C'mon, vote, you know you want to  Yep. That's my price. I wanna be Fergie. I'm sad to see your other reply about having "no plans". For a glorious minute there, I thought maybe you were recruiting unscrupulous people to assist you in some nefarious and highly lucrative scheme. If you ever do come up with something, IM me.
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Love Hastings
#66666
Join date: 21 Aug 2007
Posts: 4,094
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05-15-2009 14:47
From: 3Ring Binder in SL- if you do the typo tango with your land baron because you love him, then that's cool. if you do it only for free land, that's appalling.
Appalling AND futile. At least as far as one in particular is concerned. He won't even take responsibility for the kittens.
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Conifer Dada
Hiya m'dooks!
Join date: 6 Oct 2006
Posts: 3,716
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05-15-2009 15:04
I'd just open an SL investment bank and make sure it gets into so much debt that LL has no choice but to bail it out! 
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Sling Trebuchet
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Join date: 20 Jan 2007
Posts: 4,548
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05-15-2009 15:07
From: 3Ring Binder ..... in RL- if you (unmarried) sleep with your unmarried boss because you love him, then i see nothing wrong with that. ..... Some people would find it utterly appalling.
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Imnotgoing Sideways
Can't outlaw cute! =^-^=
Join date: 17 Nov 2007
Posts: 4,694
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05-15-2009 15:13
I'm not sure I can afford to pay someone else to take on the reputation ~I~ have. (=_=)
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Oryx Tempel
Registered User
Join date: 8 Nov 2006
Posts: 7,663
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05-15-2009 15:16
From: Love Hastings Appalling AND futile. At least as far as one in particular is concerned. He won't even take responsibility for the kittens. That bastige. Poor Ann.
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JamesMichael Morane
Chooses Liberty!!!
Join date: 13 Feb 2008
Posts: 421
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05-15-2009 15:35
From: 3Ring Binder i in RL- if you (unmarried) sleep with your unmarried boss because you love him, then i see nothing wrong with that. if you sleep with him strictly to get ahead, that is appalling. but, that's just me. others would fine that perfectly legitimate business strategy.
. What if she (unmarried) sleeps with her married boss for love or position?
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Argent Stonecutter
Emergency Mustelid
Join date: 20 Sep 2005
Posts: 20,263
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05-15-2009 15:38
Depends on whether I'm under crushing medical debt at the time or not. Like everything else.
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Holocluck Henly
Holographic Clucktor
Join date: 11 Apr 2008
Posts: 552
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05-15-2009 15:39
Where I come from we don't use money.
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Rene Erlanger
Scuderia Shapes & Skins G
Join date: 28 Sep 2006
Posts: 2,008
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05-15-2009 15:40
lol- i voted incorrectly....thought it was USD and not Linden dollars. Meant 10,000 USD a mth....which would be 2.75 million Lindens per/mth (so 3rd from bottom option)
My SL avatar doesn't have the same pricetag as my RL self....we're i probably wouldn't indulge in similar RL activities.
Plus it doesn't mean any activity. I'd run 90 traffic bots on my land if it guaranteed 10,000 USD a month in sales, but i would not sell land and then reclaim it from hapless residents for the same money.
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Virrginia Tombola
Equestrienne
Join date: 10 Nov 2006
Posts: 938
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05-15-2009 15:48
From: Desmond Shang Virrginia! I saw that!
so not true Ha! That's what you think. But then again, I'm the sort who thinks too much about multiple choice answers. The truth is, I have no shame here. IRL, I might have to live with the consequences of a bad reputation. Have a silly picture on your Facebook? Have a silly picture on someone *else's* Facebook? It can cost you your job. Here? Oh, I might lose my SL business if I were to get a bad reputation. But really, there just aren't the same sorts of consequences perceived bad behavior has IRL. So, I am left with my shamelessness. But I like it that way. Shamelessness reveals what ethics I have are internalized, and which are just the result of external threats. I don't cheat and steal because those are values that are important to me, not because I'm afraid that people on the forums will say "That lousy <name deleted> who sells horses in Caledon, she's a no good cheat!"
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Ralektra Breda
Template Painter
Join date: 7 Apr 2008
Posts: 1,875
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05-15-2009 15:51
From: Mickey Vandeverre If you really could be "bought"....you would already be doing it big time.....it's pretty easy here.....and the anonymity from your RL self would make it even easier.
If you're not already doing it....you can't be "bought"....simple as that.....in spite of how you answered the poll.
Although some are running with it in SL.....it's not the majority.....and that's very comforting to see human nature play out like that. I can't be bought...unless of course it's for 1 million linden a month  For that, my reputation can hang, it's not RL. There are, however, some things I would not do, even on SL, for any amount of money. If it meant hurting someone for example, stealing from someone, griefing someone, etc...I wouldn't do it. But if it only involves me and the person paying me, then um yea  I'm down. edit: just read Virrginia's response. Great minds post at the same time 
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Briana Dawson
Attach to Mouth
Join date: 23 Sep 2003
Posts: 5,855
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05-15-2009 16:11
From: Desmond Shang What's the sellout price of your main avatar's reputation?
I ditched Anshe as my business partner for a reason. 
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Kelli May
karmakanic
Join date: 7 Oct 2006
Posts: 1,135
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05-15-2009 16:12
A million a month would sort out my financial woes, and that would be seriously tempting. I have some good friends here; almost as good as RL friends. It'd be very tough to do something that made them disappointed in me, but RL demands would probably send me to the dark side. Twenty million over two months would be about as good.
I feel like a proper shit for selling so cheap, but times is hard.
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Ciaran Laval
Mostly Harmless
Join date: 11 Mar 2007
Posts: 7,951
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05-15-2009 16:22
From: Kelli May A million a month would sort out my financial woes, and that would be seriously tempting. I have some good friends here; almost as good as RL friends. It'd be very tough to do something that made them disappointed in me, but RL demands would probably send me to the dark side. Twenty million over two months would be about as good.
I feel like a proper shit for selling so cheap, but times is hard. Aww don't worry about it, we're in a credit crunch and as long as it wasn't anything illegal I'd go down the same path, now if you're engaged in illegal activity I'd have to give you the frowning of a lifetime, I'd also recommend you watch Midnight Express 
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Briana Dawson
Attach to Mouth
Join date: 23 Sep 2003
Posts: 5,855
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05-15-2009 16:25
All a person has are their values, morals and ethics.
You compromise those and you are nothing. Even more so when your name becomes mud to the masses.
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Desmond Shang
Guvnah of Caledon
Join date: 14 Mar 2005
Posts: 5,250
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05-15-2009 16:32
From: Holocluck Henly Where I come from we don't use money. How about these then? Presume that $L is fungible enough to get you whatever you are looking for, within reasonable limits.
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Desmond Shang
Guvnah of Caledon
Join date: 14 Mar 2005
Posts: 5,250
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05-15-2009 16:35
Update: Someone just chose $L 1000 a month.
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Argent Stonecutter
Emergency Mustelid
Join date: 20 Sep 2005
Posts: 20,263
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05-15-2009 16:38
Let's put it this way. I'd sell out my avatar to save the life of my wife or kids. And if half a million dollars a year or an extra 50,000 dollars a year was the difference between life and death, there's no question which way I go. Bah, I'm getting morbid. 
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Rene Erlanger
Scuderia Shapes & Skins G
Join date: 28 Sep 2006
Posts: 2,008
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05-15-2009 16:38
probably made the similar mistake i made....assuming it was US dollars and not Lindens
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Amity Slade
Registered User
Join date: 14 Feb 2007
Posts: 2,183
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05-15-2009 16:41
From: Desmond Shang Say you found the key to success in SL. All the $L you would ever want, to cash out into real money, indefinitely. But it means your main character would have to become an < adfarmer | extortionist | whatever > ... fill in the most shameful, hated thing you personally can think of. What's the sellout price of your main avatar's reputation? Something to think about. It depends. Reputation for what? I will not lie, cheat, or steal to make money, ever, no matter how much money it is. (So extortion, no, never.) However, if it's just something trashy or sleazy- but doesn't involving lying, cheating, or stealing- heck, the price is pretty low. (Adfarming is just ugly, right? As long as I can skirt LL rules, no lying/cheating/stealing involved?) It depends on how much time I have to spend on it. $10,000,000 L/month if I have to spend 8 hours a day on it. If I could get by with 1 or 2 hours a day, I might go as low as $100,000 L/month (not bad spare-time pocket change). My reputation can be sold, at low costs as long as it doesn't affect my other money-making opportunities. But doing something wrong to someone, that's the part that isn't for sale.
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Desmond Shang
Guvnah of Caledon
Join date: 14 Mar 2005
Posts: 5,250
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05-15-2009 16:42
From: Amity Slade It depends. Reputation for what? I will not lie, cheat, or steal to make money, ever, no matter how much money it is. (So extortion, no, never.) However, if it's just something trashy or sleazy- but doesn't involving lying, cheating, or stealing- heck, the price is pretty low. (Adfarming is just ugly, right? As long as I can skirt LL rules, no lying/cheating/stealing involved?) It depends on how much time I have to spend on it. $10,000,000 L/month if I have to spend 8 hours a day on it. If I could get by with 1 or 2 hours a day, I might go as low as $100,000 L/month (not bad spare-time pocket change). The worst thing you can think of. So it seems that your correct poll answer would be 'my reputation is priceless'
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Derbor Torok
Lost soul
Join date: 21 Jun 2007
Posts: 1,016
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05-15-2009 16:50
From: Desmond Shang C'mon, vote, you know you want to  I noticed YOU didn't vote...  .d
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