Should LL ban men who play female avatars?
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Teeny Leviathan
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09-27-2007 16:16
From: Alyx Sands WTF??? what ARE these people wearing? boobie scarves???? Erm. The name doesn't fit. They should call them Titty Twisters.
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09-27-2007 17:04
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Genku Kumaki
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09-27-2007 17:12
Can LL afford to take anything else away from us at the moment? Sometimes I have to have a second thought about the opinions I made before about those who cried "slippery slope".
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Sling Trebuchet
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09-27-2007 17:23
What about the shemales????
Will noone think about the shemales???
How do they fit in? (so to speak)
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Sling Trebuchet
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09-27-2007 17:27
I think they must be sculpts as opposed to multi-prim. They (the scarves) are a bit bumpy about the edges.
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Brenda Connolly
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09-27-2007 17:28
From: Sling Trebuchet What about the shemales????
Will noone think about the shemales???
How do they fit in? (so to speak) One from Column A, One from Column B
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Jesseaitui Petion
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09-27-2007 19:11
From: Walker Moore  . HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAA I voted no. I couldn`t care less, and I think they should be able to play whatever character they want. Web cam verification is stupid, I have so many female friends I could get to sit infront of a cam for me if I needed. If this were ever implimented inside SL it would die for sure. "Web cam or be banned!" I don`t think so. That would mean for every single female avatar, their Rl typist would have to get on cam or not be allowed access to the grid. Riiight.
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09-27-2007 19:46
Welcome to the first completely Male MMO with no women Avatars.
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Ann Launay
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09-27-2007 19:49
A few people actually voted yes. 
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Congratulations and shame on you! You are a bit of a slut.
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Jesseaitui Petion
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09-27-2007 19:50
From: Ann Launay A few people actually voted yes.  Yeah probably guys who were a victim of men pretending to be females. lol@ Brendan.
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Susie Boffin
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09-27-2007 20:11
Now I think I have heard everything! Is this supposed to be a serious poll? Are you suggesting that all SL users report to LL HQ for DNA testing prior to registration? Wait...I forgot that voice is intended to instill trust. 
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Jezebella Desmoulins
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09-27-2007 20:33
From: Jesseaitui Petion Yeah probably guys who were a victim of men pretending to be females. Four respondents out of over 200 who are now in therapy after bumping pixels with a hot female escort who turned out to be a G.I.R.L.
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Bradley Bracken
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09-27-2007 20:50
I really wish those who voted yes would speak up. I'm dying to hear their explanation. I really hope it's as simple as "I hit the wrong button"
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Colette Meiji
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09-27-2007 21:00
From: Bradley Bracken I really wish those who voted yes would speak up. I'm dying to hear their explanation. I really hope it's as simple as "I hit the wrong button" Well to be fair they are only voting to end gender bending the poll doesnt include "Web cam verification" thats just part of the copy in the Chinese ad. Without the web cam nonsense and the "BAN", the end result wouldnt be all that different than LL adding the ability to display verified gender - which has received some support. I wonder how much this has to do with anything other than homophobia on the part of the Game company. Since one stereotype is that gender benders are gay men.
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Bradley Bracken
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09-27-2007 21:05
From: Colette Meiji I wonder how much this has to do with anything other than homophobia on the part of the Game company. Since one stereotype is that gender benders are gay men. True. Because everyone knows us gay men want to really be woman. HELLLOOOO??? No, I don't! I'm a man who likes men...uh, that's what makes me GAY! LOL I really don't understand why anyone cares. I never ask anything about a persons RL except maybe where they are from and that's only after there's been references to it in their conversation. If someone plays their roll well I don't give a damn who they are in RL. I do admit, however, that I don't have sex in SL so I have a different perspective than some.
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Brenda Archer
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09-27-2007 21:17
From: Colette Meiji Well to be fair they are only voting to end gender bending the poll doesnt include "Web cam verification" thats just part of the copy in the Chinese ad. Without the web cam nonsense and the "BAN", the end result wouldnt be all that different than LL adding the ability to display verified gender - which has received some support. I wonder how much this has to do with anything other than homophobia on the part of the Game company. Since one stereotype is that gender benders are gay men. When I came out in opposition to putting verified gender on the profile, I got a lot of support. Hopefully someone from LL will see the way this poll is running and do some thinking.
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Felix Oxide
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09-27-2007 21:25
I wonder how different the numbers would be had the poll been anonymous. Policies like that really give me pause about that Chinese run version of SL.
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Ann Launay
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09-27-2007 21:25
From: Bradley Bracken True. Because everyone knows us gay men want to really be woman. HELLLOOOO??? No, I don't! You don't!?  Because, you know, we have all the really good shoes...
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Congratulations and shame on you! You are a bit of a slut.
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Bradley Bracken
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09-27-2007 21:29
From: Ann Launay You don't!?  Because, you know, we have all the really good shoes... Not just shoes. You have so many more shopping options in general. It does make a boy think.
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Colette Meiji
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09-27-2007 21:30
From: Felix Oxide I wonder how different the numbers would be had the poll been anonymous. Policies like that really give me pause about that Chinese run version of SL. I think if the Poll was "Should LL do Gender verification?" youll get a lot more people in who say that should than .. "Should LL ban Gender Benders?" Which will not be popular due to the freedom issue. wheras the .. "Should LL do web cam gender verification of just women?" is going to gain almost no support.
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09-27-2007 21:32
From: Jessica Elytis I am in awe that another buisness proved that they are more idiotic than LL at policy decisions.
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Bradley Bracken
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09-27-2007 21:34
From: Colette Meiji I think if the Poll was "Should LL do Gender verification?" youll get a lot more people in who say that should than ..
"Should LL ban Gender Benders?" Which will not be popular due to the freedom issue.
wheras the ..
"Should LL do web cam gender verification of just women?" is going to gain almost no support. Polling is a real science and reputable pollsters will work very hard to ensure the best wording for the most accurate results. The same question can be asked numerous ways and get numerous different results. disreputable pollsters work very carefully on their wording for the same reason. You'll see a lot of that in the US with the upcoming elections.
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Mu Bikcin
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09-27-2007 21:38
From: Brendan Cale Welcome to the first completely Male MMO with no women Avatars. Now don't forget about Ruth! (and will you need to be verified to be Ruthed?)
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Colette Meiji
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09-27-2007 21:38
From: Bradley Bracken Polling is a real science and reputable pollsters will work very hard to ensure the best wording for the most accurate results. . LOL I wonder Many Pollsters ensure the best wording to achieve the results *they are hoping for*.
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Colette Meiji
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09-27-2007 21:43
Of course the obvious thing is the web cam verification wouldnt even work unless it involved some nudity.
Unless you assume all men look obviously Manly and all women obviously Female.
For example I know a Male Avatar who is a Female player. Her RL pics look like a slightly built man.
And of course the whole Idea that only women would have to use the web cam is blatantly sexist.
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