| Should LL ban men who play female avatars? | 
        
            | Should Female Avatars Played By Men Be Banned
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                | poopmaster Oh The Best Person On Earth   Join date: 9 Mar 2007 Posts: 917 | 09-27-2007 14:13 One of the biggest MMO's in china has started this policy, Do you think Linden Labs should also take this to task? http://kotaku.com/gaming/only-in-china/shanda-says-no-to-men-role-playing-women-characters-302795.phpFrom: someone In a bizarre move Aurora Technology the owners of the King of the World MMORPG has taken the unusual step of banning men who play women characters but the ban itself does not stretch to women playing men. If you want to play as a woman now in game you have to prove you are a women via web cam. This is something that people ask for in many mmorpgs I myself have seen people say people who play women in EVE online as being some kind of degenerate but how long can a policy of verification by web cam last since its so easy to get around it doesn't seem to solve much and is an insult to many
 
 
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                | Qie Niangao Coin-operated   Join date: 24 May 2006 Posts: 7,138 | 09-27-2007 14:28 From: someone If you want to play as a woman now in game you have to prove you are a women via web cam. Now, I wonder how that works.  I have this image of some guy in Beijing:  "Just a little lower... ah, yes... [inaudible]." | 
        
            
                | Colette Meiji Registered User   Join date: 25 Mar 2005 Posts: 15,556 | 09-27-2007 14:33 LOL 
 The question that needs asked about the chinese MMO is Why?  Are MMOs that big a hook-up destination for Chinese?
 
 And why dont the men have to come on webcam and prove they are men?
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                | Sling Trebuchet Deleted User Join date: 20 Jan 2007 Posts: 4,548 | 09-27-2007 14:40 From: Colette Meiji LOL 
 The question that needs asked about the chinese MMO is Why?  Are MMOs that big a hook-up destination for Chinese?
 
 And why dont the men have to come on webcam and prove they are men?
Because they might be underage? Or because they might be less interesting to look at than the male account holder's hired-help/sister/cousin? | 
        
            
                | Perro Jackalope Registered User Join date: 4 Feb 2007 Posts: 7 | 09-27-2007 14:40 From: Colette Meiji 
 And why dont the men have to come on webcam and prove they are men?
and that they match | 
        
            
                | Sling Trebuchet Deleted User Join date: 20 Jan 2007 Posts: 4,548 | 09-27-2007 14:42 Aurora tech.1: I'm sure I've seen that woman many times before.Aurora tech.2: Nah! All those Tibetan women look the same to us.
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                | Sling Trebuchet Deleted User Join date: 20 Jan 2007 Posts: 4,548 | 09-27-2007 14:47 Sharia Life tech.1  ee the way that thread sticks out just over the right eye? Sharia Life tech.2: Nah. That one looks a tiny bit longer than the thread in the last one. | 
        
            
                | Jezebella Desmoulins Registered User Join date: 4 Nov 2005 Posts: 561 | 09-27-2007 14:51 How's this webcam verification thing going to work in China when MAD TV's Bobby Lee looks more feminine as Connie Chung than Connie Chung. | 
        
            
                | Chas Connolly Registered User Join date: 24 Jan 2007 Posts: 1,433 | 09-27-2007 14:57 If you start banning men who play female avis, where do you draw the line? Men who play furries, tinies, androids? | 
        
            
                | Bradley Bracken Goodbye, Farewell, Amen   Join date: 2 Apr 2007 Posts: 3,856 | 09-27-2007 15:03 I wish Trout would post in this thread so I could just point at his sig.  It says it all for me. | 
        
            
                | Quick Stirling Driveling Idiot Join date: 3 Aug 2004 Posts: 33 | 09-27-2007 15:06 pie | 
        
            
                | Darien Caldwell Registered User   Join date: 12 Oct 2006 Posts: 3,127 | 09-27-2007 15:07 couldn't you just get your sister/girlfriend/wife/next door neighbor to wave into the camera, then tada!, you've verified.  Sounds as useful as Identity Verification here in SL.   | 
        
            
                | Walker Moore Fоrum Unregular   Join date: 14 May 2006 Posts: 1,458 | 09-27-2007 15:07  .
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                | Nika Talaj now you see her ...   Join date: 2 Jan 2007 Posts: 5,449 | The Chinese can have fun with this 09-27-2007 15:13 Aurora tech.1:  OK Miss Yi, turn on your webcam<picture of a hairy man's ass fills screen>
 Aurora tech.1:  You are not approved
 
 Aurora tech.1:  OK Miss Yi, turn on your webcam
 <nude picture of Shakira fills screen>
 Aurora tech.1:  *silence*
 
 Aurora tech.1:  OK Miss Yi, turn on your webcam
 <porno film projected on a wall>
 Aurora tech.1:  Turn the room lights off!
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                | Raudf Fox (ra-ow-th)   Join date: 25 Feb 2005 Posts: 5,119 | 09-27-2007 15:22 From: Darien Caldwell couldn't you just get your sister/girlfriend/wife/next door neighbor to wave into the camera, then tada!, you've verified.  Sounds as useful as Identity Verification here in SL.  And if you get the hot looking ones to wave for you, could it possibly get you an instant free premium membership?  I'm female, and I'd track down a good looking friend just to get a free premium membership! Nope, I'd be leaving SL if I had to buy a web cam just to prove that I'm a XX gene carrier.  Besides, it'd still be an honor system... and we all know how well honor systems worked in elementary.. and how well they worked in high school...  And how badly they work with adults...
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                | Trout Recreant Public Enemy No. 1 Join date: 24 Jul 2007 Posts: 4,873 | 09-27-2007 15:27 From: Bradley Bracken I wish Trout would post in this thread so I could just point at his sig.  It says it all for me.Glad to be of assistance. Trying to verify gender and banning men who play women Avs=stupidest idea since New Coke.
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                | Walker Moore Fоrum Unregular   Join date: 14 May 2006 Posts: 1,458 | 09-27-2007 15:29 Wait.  This poll was serious?   
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                | Alyx Sands Mental Mentor Linguist   Join date: 17 Feb 2007 Posts: 2,432 | 09-27-2007 15:30 From: Walker Moore  .WTF??? what ARE these people wearing? boobie scarves???? Erm.
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                | Chris Norse Loud Arrogant Redneck Join date: 1 Oct 2006 Posts: 5,735 | 09-27-2007 15:39 I wonder if the Chinese thing has to do with their oversupply of males? 
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                | Victorria Paine Sleepless in Wherever Join date: 13 Jul 2007 Posts: 1,110 | 09-27-2007 15:40 Yes, we should ban gender benders, but not only them.  We should also ban furries, nekos, vampires, BDSMers, Goreans, gays and lesbians, adults who play child avatars, strippers, hookers ... welcome to Second Branson everyone!  Yee-haw!
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                | Walker Moore Fоrum Unregular   Join date: 14 May 2006 Posts: 1,458 | 09-27-2007 15:48 From: Alyx Sands WTF??? what ARE these people wearing? boobie scarves???? Erm.That's exactly what they're called!  http://slog.thestranger.com/2006/07/boobie_scarves_1  Guaranteed to make Chinese folk giggle apparently.    
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                | Nika Talaj now you see her ...   Join date: 2 Jan 2007 Posts: 5,449 | The Chinese can have fun with this, continued 09-27-2007 15:50 Aurora tech.1: OK Miss Yi, turn on your webcam<projected SL login screen>
 Aurora tech.1: Very funny
 
 Aurora tech.1: OK Miss Yi, turn on your webcam
 <projected graph of Aurora's concurrency numbers plummeting>
 Aurora tech.1: You are not approved
 
 Aurora tech.1: OK Miss Yi, turn on your webcam
 <3 topless giggling teenager girls wave>
 Aurora tech.1: You are approved
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                | Bree Giffen ♥♣♦♠ Furrtune Hunter ♠♦♣♥   Join date: 22 Jun 2006 Posts: 2,715 | 09-27-2007 15:53 I think that Chinese MMO will be the first all-male avatar MMO ever. From a country that kills their female babies that's  pretty stupid requirement. | 
        
            
                | Crunch Underwood Mr. Grown up, Go away sir Join date: 25 Sep 2007 Posts: 624 | 09-27-2007 16:01 hey all, first reply *waves* my 2C, i have two Av's, there both male. i, like heaps of other people, enjoy creating weapons and armor for mine and other peoples av's and will eventually start selling my gear, i also have plans on making a female av in the future so i can make female armor and clothes to sell and why not seeing as linden is giving away av's for free at the moment. now i won't be using this av for anything else other than building i don't see whats so wrong with that also i'm sure i'm not the only person who has run into trans-people in SL. it's called second life for a reason, some people can't afford massive surgery and this is a big outlet for them to be who they are on the inside <rant off> thanks for listening   | 
        
            
                | Jessica Elytis Goddess Join date: 7 Oct 2005 Posts: 1,783 | 09-27-2007 16:06 If this thread was serious, someone get Poopmaster a Third Life. *smirks*
 Quite frankly, I don't give a damn who is what on the other end. The person I'm interacting with could be a chincilla for all I care! (Though that would be pretty kewl actually).
 
 Me? I'ma girl. Am I gonna flash my boobs on a webcam to ANYone to prove it? Ummm....no.
 
 Seriously, there's enough men that look like women and women that look liek men to give that chinese MMO certification board fits ROFL. Can we say "Pat" anyone?
 
 I am in awe that another buisness proved that they are more idiotic than LL at policy decisions.
 
 ~Jessy
 
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