Bad news of the day: They're thinking of merging the Teen Grid into the main one

Actually they are supposed to, with the drop down age thing.

they just lie and get past it.

thus remove LL and all SL residents from liability in interacting with them... since they committed fraud to get into the adult grid

Yep our current adult verification system is about as effective as a "do not steal my car" sign on an unlocked car with the keys dangling in the ignition.

It's effective in the cyoa mode of a closed door.

An honest person doesn't enter if they shouldn't but a dishonest one will.

And short of implants in everyone's hands... there is no real way to verify who is at a computer

I'm sure this must have been said a number of times on thie subject...........

But with Kids getting onto ADULT SL
Kids getting on the INTERNET to look at porn in general
Kids Buying porn magazines from shops on the high street

In all these instances there is ONLY ONE thing that should be controlling / overseeing / policing (if you like) Children

And supprise supprise, thats Adults/Parents.

I've seem so many parents in RL give their young children (I'm talking 10 yeats old in my experiences) full internet access in their bedrooms and just letting them do as they want.

IMHO totally irresponsibe.

They want a PC in their bedroom to play game on then ok, but keep the internet access downstairs in full view of everyone, a FAMILY PC if you will.

Superior to the competition?? are you suggesting that MS actually has any REAL competition in the corporate world.. lol

And it's your pool.. you have total control over it.. if it gets full of trash you can clean it up. Which would you rather do, clean all the trash out of your pool, or clean all the trash out of Lake Superior.

Like I said, Microsoft sells a lot of boxes against technically superior alternatives. Linden Labs is selling boxes against a competitor that isn't even close to their product.

Trust me when I say this while I may be fairly new here I came from another 3dchat called imvu and this sound exactly like what they did. Favoring the teen user over the adults. Want proof just reach me in world with a way of sending it to you and I'll give you loads.

But I don't have to be babysitter if they do those things. I don't have to sit in the room with them while they do that. Get into my SL and I do.

Shade - yes and look what happened to IMVU.

And, here's another who came here from IMVU - and IMVU is sinking faster than the Titanic as they continue to go down the path of favoring the teens over the ones who have kept them in business - THE ADULTS. I came here to enjoy myself (no matter what the activity) as an adult - I'm an older woman who deserves to be respected as an adult. I also do not want to have to deal with the children as we do at IMVU. It has become a ghost town as many of us choose to come to SL - if SL goes down the same path IMVU continues on, many of us will choose to take our real money out of SL and find someplace else where we don't have to deal with children (and yes, teens are still children - in the U.S. a child is a child until they turn 18 and then they are considered an adult by law).

We have been fighting at IMVU forever for them to partition the servers which they have stated absolutely not - they want the children to interact with the adults - and my question continually is WHY. There are cases of males in their 40s having children of 13 and 14 as their slaves at IMVU. Do we really want SL to have that kind of reputation? I think not.

This a really bad idea, and we can only hope nothing comes off it. Have SL not heard of the phrase ' If it's not broke don't fix it?'
I'm young myself (20) but I am a mature mother of 2. Teenagers in Sl will change the dynamics completely

Right now I am seeing a few "placeholder" threads in the Linden Forum that deal with moving all "Adult" content to a separate continent and that access to that continent will only be for verified Adults. The good news is that it seems like they are calling verified adults EITHER Age Verified using the system OR "Payment info on file". Lots of holes, I know, and this probably raises more questions than it answers, but this also would seem to indicate that if they have continents where there is no "adult" content (still to be defined) then you should able to allow teens in.

Personally, since I spend more time on a PG sim and don't really do "adult" stuff, the only negative for me would be that we're going to have a bunch of RL kids running around with all of the immaturity that ensues....

/me thinks of SL Gor with kids in it and shudders.



Bad, bad news if LL does this in-world. Expect roleplay* and 'mature' sims to empty overnight since most in there are no-payment alts. Also, if someone has to give up their RL info to do what some do in SL, people won't want to do that either.

All so some kids can run around SL unimpeded? WHY, Linden Labs. Why?!

*PG or otherwise. For instance putting aside RL issues is one thing that attracts many to roleplay - a big linebacker being a female elf for instance. He's gonna want to give up his RL age and info? *Not* (not even to a "third party" - privacy issues then take on a whole other level.)

Well, stage one is ramping up: Forcing all Adult Content providers and most users of adult content on the Mainland to relocate to an adult-only ghetto continent...

The teens will be next, to move into the lands vacated at gunpoint.

Oh well...

Do you feel like having some irrate teen claim you were sexually harassing them? IRL you KNOW a teen when you see one. Can you tell how old a fire dragon is?

Thus the exodus begins.

Will there be agencies for displaced people? Will LL reimburse for items lost, time spent terraforming, offer any incentive package at all?

Somewhere near the beginning of this thread I stated that LL were not planning to merge the grids and that this whole thread was nonsense.

I was quite obviously wrong, so so so wrong. I mean, wow, really wrong.

Would you like a hug?

sounds like similar thinking to yahoo when they closed down the teenage rooms, hoping the "good" people of chat would watch out for them...roflmao..all that did was ruin some very good adult rooms as 15 year olds will act like 15 year olds and was the beginning of the end of good fun...personally I don't have a problem with teenagers acting like teenagers..but what I do have a problem with is adults logging in with child avatars to be someone's daughter or son..now THAT I do have a problem with...and is allowed by SL.. grown ups "talking and dressing babyish" to me is ermmm...not comfortable.

Its everyone's SL... you can simply ignore kid avs, you can put them on ignore but we DO have a right to be here accept us or ignore us we really dont care its all about tolerance which is something many dont realize. I tolerate your opinions, do you tolerate mine?
just sayin

What are we exactly hidding from our children?

paranoia perhaps?

I tolerate everyone's view because they are all relevant. That is the purpose of a Forum, to gain information and to exchange opinions...smiles.

Migration Plan V2.01a

1. Make all existing land Adult
2. Create a new non-Adult (I don't like the designation "PG" continent
3. Offer good deals to existing non-Adult landowners to move to the new continent.
4. Monitor activities closely on new non-Adult continent, making a few public examples of anyone carrying out Adult activities
5. Continue to age validate Teens
6. Allow Teens on non-Adult continent only, preventing them accessing Adult lands.

This is far easier than any of the plans I have yet seen for creating a new Adult continent and/or merging the Teen grid, and potentially satisfies everyone except those non-Adult landowners for whom it would be a nuisance to move - although even they might consider the long-run benefits worthwhile. It also prevents LL having to develop effective age validation for over-18s, which is probably an impossible task outside the USA.

Pep (The new TLA for Adult Orientated Land is obvious . . . )

How? I guess this is the reason they need the porn ghetto.

Let's say I join SL today. How do I prove I'm an adult so I can get out of Disney Land and into the real grid? Either you can take my word for it like porn websites do and I'll just click, yes I was born Jan 1st 1908. Or you can insist on credit card details for literally everyone.

If you start limiting access to the real grid based on payment info then you're going to see a massive collapse in the population and a serious over population of Disney World from people who just plain refuse to type credit card details into SL.