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Argent Stonecutter
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10-05-2009 12:33
From: Debra Himmel
Well actually they do, its called issuing an international warrant,and they are then extradited.
I'm sorry, you said "arrest", not "issue a warrant for their arrest". There's a huge difference between the two.
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Melita Magic
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10-05-2009 12:33
From: Debra Himmel
Well actually they do, its called issuing an international warrant,and they are then extradited.


What's wrong with extradition? America is also not the only country to extradite. It is also forced to abide by other nations' extradition laws, or Polanski would've served his sentence decades ago instead of hiding in France.
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10-05-2009 12:34
From: spinster Voom
what's a teabagger? Is it safe to google?
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Argent Stonecutter
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10-05-2009 12:36
From: Melita Magic

Debra there are 2 groups of people - those who still have faith in govt. and in Big Pharma and those who do not.
Personally, I'm glad that they eliminated the need for the Smallpox vaccinations I had to take, by eliminating Smallpox in the wild... through things like those vaccinations.
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Debra Himmel
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10-05-2009 12:37
From: Argent Stonecutter
A health-care worker has more than their own health to consider. If they don't recognize that, they're in the wrong career.


The silly thing about all of this is that there is a huge amount of evidence that vaccines cause outbreaks and none to prove that vaccinations eliminate disease. In fact, the number of infections were already declining in the 1800's because of increases of nutrition and general cleanliness before vaccinations started.
Melita Magic
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10-05-2009 12:38
From: Argent Stonecutter
Personally, I'm glad that they eliminated the need for the Smallpox vaccinations I had to take, by eliminating Smallpox in the wild... through things like those vaccinations.


If you say so.

Or maybe they stopped asking people to vaccinate because slowing down international travel would also slow down international trade. Lo & behold there was never a need for it in the first place.

Polio was not eliminated either, really - it morphed into something called chronic fatigue syndrome, which some think is caused by vaccinating infants with the polio vaccine.

I hope they at least stop vaccinating infants and toddlers. HONEY can kill an infant, but they think a vaccination can't harm them?
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10-05-2009 12:40
From: Debra Himmel
But now you are not even allowed to sue the makers if it all goes wrong. Nice representatives you have.


Yes you are.

Comments like this, and Melita's implication that the flue vaccine is likely to harm its recipents, are ill-informed.
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Debra Himmel
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10-05-2009 12:42
From: Alvaro Zapatero
My question to Debra... the bill passed the Massachusett's state senate with 36 yeas and 0 nays. If this were such an evil bill, why did it pass with unanimous approval?


Simple, history has shown that most people are wrong most of the time.
Alvaro Zapatero
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10-05-2009 12:45
From: Lindal Kidd
Comments like this, and Melita's implication that the flue vaccine is likely to harm its recipents, are ill-informed.


You have a far more pleasant way of describing them than I do. I'll try to use this as inspiration in the future when I debate... *ahem*... ill-informed people.
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10-05-2009 12:46
From: Debra Himmel
Simple, history has shown that most people are wrong most of the time.


Well... that makes it highly likely that you're wrong, right now.
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Melita Magic
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10-05-2009 12:48
From: Lindal Kidd
Yes you are.

Comments like this, and Melita's implication that the flue vaccine is likely to harm its recipents, are ill-informed.


Bullcrap - it is not.

YOU are ill informed if you say so.

By the way would people kindly stop putting words in my mouth and then replying as if I said what they are actually saying?

I never said LIKELY, however it DOES HAPPEN and HAS HAPPENED at a fair enough rate in the past that it should not be FORCED on anyone. That's what I actually said.

From: Alvaro Zapatero
You have a far more pleasant way of describing them than I do. I'll try to use this as inspiration in the future when I debate... *ahem*... ill-informed people.


You might as well come out and say it, if you're going to say it this way.

"Them?"

What if you are the one whose argument is misguided? I also don't call name-calling and ridicule "debate."
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10-05-2009 12:48
From: Melita Magic
If you say so.

Or maybe they stopped asking people to vaccinate because slowing down international travel would also slow down international trade. Lo & behold there was never a need for it in the first place.

Hundreds of millions of people died from smallpox in the 20th century alone. There was a huge need for the vaccine.
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Debra Himmel
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10-05-2009 12:49
From: Argent Stonecutter
I can't sue Ford if I'm run over by an Explorer, either, even if my job required me to stand in the road wearing a clown suit. And I suspect the chance of injury or death are considerably greater.


Of course you can if there was a problem with the manufacturing of the car and that was the reason for it.
Debra Himmel
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10-05-2009 12:50
From: Melita Magic
What's wrong with extradition? America is also not the only country to extradite. It is also forced to abide by other nations' extradition laws, or Polanski would've served his sentence decades ago instead of hiding in France.


You need to read the original post and the reply I got.
Melita Magic
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10-05-2009 12:52
P.S. Alvaro, do you really think "if the govt. institutes it, it must be right?"

/me tries to avoid Godwinning the thread...

From: Debra Himmel
You need to read the original post and the reply I got.


Link please? I have a feeling if I read even more of the thread my blood pressure's gonna go up. ;p
Argent Stonecutter
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10-05-2009 12:52
From: Debra Himmel
Of course you can if there was a problem with the manufacturing of the car and that was the reason for it.
But not if cars are inherently dangerous and the Explorer was manufactured to the same standards as other cars on the road.
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Melita Magic
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10-05-2009 12:53
From: Argent Stonecutter
But not if cars are inherently dangerous and the Explorer was manufactured to the same standards as other cars on the road.


Are you defending the law that will make it illegal to sue a doctor for malpractise?

Ordinary citizens lose more and more rights and their countrymen actually defend it. I don't understand that.
Debra Himmel
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10-05-2009 12:56
From: Melita Magic
Are you defending the law that will make it illegal to sue a doctor for malpractise?

Ordinary citizens lose more and more rights and their countrymen actually defend it. I don't understand that.



I do, its called fluoride.
Debra Himmel
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10-05-2009 12:58
From: Melita Magic
P.S. Alvaro, do you really think "if the govt. institutes it, it must be right?"

/me tries to avoid Godwinning the thread...



Link please? I have a feeling if I read even more of the thread my blood pressure's gonna go up. ;p


Sorry, I'm not digging that out.
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10-05-2009 12:58
Merica! we need to evaccinate soon as possible..The H1and N1 flu virises are a commin and we need to GTFO here and Fast!!!..So Evaccinate soon as ya can..Take only what you can carry before it's too late..Remember ya just can't get fooled twice ;)

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10-05-2009 12:59
From: Melita Magic
P.S. Alvaro, do you really think "if the govt. institutes it, it must be right?"


Hmmm... I don't recall saying that.

But since you put it that way, I could turn it around and ask you, "Do you really think that if the government institutes it, it must be wrong?"
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Argent Stonecutter
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10-05-2009 13:00
From: Melita Magic
/me tries to avoid Godwinning the thread...
Too late, I already did.
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Alvaro Zapatero
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10-05-2009 13:02
From: Argent Stonecutter
Too late, I already did.


Oh I beg to differ.

I won the thread by pointing out that Debra's statement, "Simple, history has shown that most people are wrong most of the time." means that by her own logic, she's wrong.

Game over.
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Lindal Kidd
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10-05-2009 13:05
From: Melita Magic
...I never said LIKELY, however it DOES HAPPEN and HAS HAPPENED at a fair enough rate in the past that it should not be FORCED on anyone. That's what I actually said...


Numbers, please, and show how they are applicable to THIS year's vaccine. Saying that the 1970's swine flu vaccine had more adverse reactions than likely deaths from the flu is, IMO, a red herring, since it used a live virus rather than an inactivated one.

I can give you one data point. I had my flu shot. I had no adverse reaction other than one evening of feeling slightly off. Everyone else in my family got the flu. I didn't. This pattern has held up for well over ten years.
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10-05-2009 13:06
From: Alvaro Zapatero
Hmmm... I don't recall saying that.


Which is why I asked, rather than simply stating you did say it, and then replying as if you had.

May I ask what you WERE saying, then, when you said that since it had been voted in, it mut be okay?

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But since you put it that way, I could turn it around and ask you, "Do you really think that if the government institutes it, it must be wrong?"


Why do people think the reverse of a statement is always a fair question?

Not all analogies are created equal. Not all statements are true or fair. How could you reverse a statement which is not true in the first place and ask me if the reversal is true?

Not a very sound 'debate' tactic.
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