Thank You SL

It took me a minute to figure that out.

I thought you meant something completely different.

You and me both!

Age verification was debated endlessly when it was first announced.

I happen to agree with those who are against using it. (Surprise! Lol.)

I hate the name calling like 'tin foil hat wearer' or 'wingnut' - a lot of the Europeans whose countries forbid them to give out such information have never even heard of Limbaugh.

I'm not in either category and I still think it's bizarre to ask such heavily intrusive information of someone to play a...er, inhabit a virtual world.

Don't you mean tea party...

Do we really all have to attack each other's politics and/or make specious claims about sanity any time we disagree in the forums? I hate that.



They did not say any of those things. You do your argument a disservice by making it so emotional.

I agree with them about mandated vaccinations. If you want to let them stick you, be my guest. Just don't make it a law.

what's a teabagger? Is it safe to google?

Don't - trust me.

/me found out after I innocently asked a gay friend what it meant, after hearing it in a John Waters film.

nope.. http://media.ebaumsworld.com/picture/IHateAds/teabag.jpg

Its just a small matter of not wanting to. But I know that doesn't concern you because you are not getting it forced on you.

too late!

and of all the times for my RL bloke to walk past! TWO of us ROFL!

Did I say anything about making payments



Yes I know, funny that. At one time there were no strip searches at ports of entry, but now it happens everywhere. Funny that.

I'm not a health worker or a member of the military, but that doesn't mean I haven't been in a similar position: I've had plenty of other vaccinations forced on me in the past, including a few that I understand they don't bother with for International travel any more.

I've never been strip-searched ... perhaps it's your paranoid demeanour that sets their alarm bells ringing?

I see, so if Germany tries to arrest someone in another country, that is German imperialism?

Very true. At my peak I was making 400L to 500L a day without a business. But now I don't bother anymore.

Why is Debra being attacked? Must she be called paranoid? How could anyone here possibly attest to her in any way in her real life? Even a professional would not diagnose anyone via internet.

About the vaccines - a little girl died recently from the totally inane HPV vaccine. Many others have diseases for life because of it - vasculitis, arthritis. It protects - IF it does - against only 4 of the 16 known virii it claims to. They even admit that. Also while the vaccine was being developed, which took 10 years or so, why did no one talk about the link between HPV and cervical cancer? Yet when there was money to be made, suddenly that link was everywhere, as if this vaccine somehow was the source of that information. Drug companies do not exist to benefit humanity but to make billions upon billions from drugs that often cause more harm than good.

Lyme disease vaccine killed and crippled people for life. In the 1970s the swine flu vaccine did the same. There is a large amount of data and stories such as those about many types of vaccines. Rejecting a vaccination is not insane - it's prudent.

NO ONE should have that petri dish called a 'vaccination' injected into them against their will. Especially as a prophylactic measure for a pandemic that does not exist.

If they got away with it on a regular basis, yes. They haven't managed to do that on a large scale since the '40s, though.

A health-care worker has more than their own health to consider. If they don't recognize that, they're in the wrong career.

Data gleaned indirectly from anonymous testimony of Navy wives of the affected crew via the internet radio show A Marine Disquisition :

1. Unnamed US Navy vessel put to sea in April with 347 man crew.
2. Entire crew was vaccinated with H1N1 Swine Flu vaccine shortly after they put to sea.
3. Crew sickened so severely that other ships had to respond to render aid. 16 Medical Dr.s put aboard from an unnamed aircraft carrier and other responding vessels. Total of 50 Navy personnel sent aboard to respond to crisis.
4. Two of the crew of 347 died - including the Captain of the ship (a Lieutenant Commander) and a Chief Petty Officer.
5. 50 personnel sent aboard to help are quarantined in Navy hospital in Balboa, Spain after 10 of them caught the flu from the ship's crew. Two of the 50 quarantined are in serious condition at last report.
6. Of the 347 man crew that were vaccinated, 333 contracted the H1N1 flu FROM THE VACCINE. Two died, as mentioned above, and 331 survived. Only 14 of the 347 vaccinated sailors did not show any ill effects from the vaccine.
7. Navy has threatened all the spouses of the ship's crew to remain silent - claiming all this information is classified. Some are whistle-blowing and that is where this information is coming from.
8. On the unnamed aircraft carrier that provided assistance, 415 sailors contracted the swine flu and are currently quarantined onboard.

The truth is that the swine flu epidemic will be created BY THE VACCINE. If we don't take it, there will be no epidemic. From this one test it's apparent that the vaccine as tested on that ship's crew in April is 96% effective at infecting the recipient with swine flu. Such an infection rate is impossible to achieve by any natural means. Though it only killed 1% immediately, there is no telling what the long term effects on those injected with the vaccine will be. See the research on the long term effects of the 1976 swine flu vaccine, and the Gulf War anthrax vaccine programs for more information.
Also note that mere contact with those that have been vaccinated creates a 20% chance of you contracting the swine flu even if you have not been vaccinated. Please pass this data along to anyone you care about!
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Which is why having a petri dish injected into them, risking coming down with the disease, or non related diseases, or man made diseases caused by some drug company cocktail, is a valid reason to reject the mandate.

It's hard to continue working if they are left crippled, maimed, or dead.

Yes, you did. If you're referring to the issue that I've dealt with in other another forum, it regards possible emergency responses in the event of a pandemic... not specific measures in the face of H1N1.

It's similar to putting contingencies into place if a natural disaster struck... which most sane people consider... prudent. But somehow the more paranoid have decided that this is a government attempt to grab power and property and force all the citizens into internment camps.

My question to Debra... the bill passed the Massachusett's state senate with 36 yeas and 0 nays. If this were such an evil bill, why did it pass with unanimous approval?

But now you are not even allowed to sue the makers if it all goes wrong. Nice representatives you have.

If the odds of that happening are sufficiently lower than the odds of them catching a communicable disease they can pass on to the vulnerable patients they are caring for, then that is a reasonable condition of employment.

Just as the much more dangerous vaccinations I subjected myself to in the '60s and '70s were a reasonable condition of international travel at that time.

Gulf War 'disease' - was created mainly, some assert, from vaccinations and medications those soldiers were given as a prophylactic against *possible* things like chemical warfare. Turned out the only chemical warfare was conducted against those soldiers by their own government.

Debra there are 2 groups of people - those who still have faith in govt. and in Big Pharma and those who do not.

Some people still think Big Pharma exists not to create problems but to solve them. The list of side effects from drugs to treat fairly benign diseases should convince people otherwise but it does not.

There is so much I could go into here, but this really is not the time or place for it.

Let's just say, once a pandemic is successfully created, who will profit from its 'treatment?'

People should also google "tamiflu + suicide" or "cipro + suicide" - two much touted saviour pills for non existent pandemics.

Well actually they do, its called issuing an international warrant,and they are then extradited.

I can't sue Ford if I'm run over by an Explorer, either, even if my job required me to stand in the road wearing a clown suit. And I suspect the chance of injury or death are considerably greater.