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Are you "cheating" your RL relationship with someone in SL?

Har Fairweather
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08-30-2007 17:20
Benjamin Franklin would have approved of this thread.

(And he just said all cats are gray in the dark; he didn't say what they felt like : P)
Derbor Torok
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08-30-2007 17:28
From: 3Ring Binder
my only answer is "why would someone waste their time with someone they can't even touch, and worse- who might not be the gender they present in SL?"

silly.


No wet spot?

... and yeah... and if done right - it can be great fun too..

;-)
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08-30-2007 19:47
From: Ann Launay
*digs around for her cute waitress outfit*

May I take your order?

choclate turtle cheesecake please, and a tall glass of cold milk
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08-30-2007 20:01
From: Maggie McArdle
choclate turtle cheesecake please, and a tall glass of cold milk


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From: someone
I am bumping you to an 8.5 on the Official Trout Measuring Instrument of Sluttiness. You are an enigma - on the one hand a sweet, gentle, intelligent woman who we would like to wrap up in our arms and protect, and on the other, a temptress to whom we would like to do all sorts of unmentionable things.

Congratulations and shame on you! You are a bit of a slut.
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08-30-2007 20:29
Can I getcha anything else? *chomps gum*

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From: someone
I am bumping you to an 8.5 on the Official Trout Measuring Instrument of Sluttiness. You are an enigma - on the one hand a sweet, gentle, intelligent woman who we would like to wrap up in our arms and protect, and on the other, a temptress to whom we would like to do all sorts of unmentionable things.

Congratulations and shame on you! You are a bit of a slut.
Tod69 Talamasca
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08-30-2007 20:32
I vote No.

Just because the whole "sex in SL" thing is like wanking off to The Sims. :p
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Carli Dancer
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08-30-2007 20:33
From: Tod69 Talamasca
I vote No.

Just because the whole "sex in SL" thing is like wanking off to The Sims. :p



Personal experience?
Brenda Connolly
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08-30-2007 20:43
From: Ann Launay
Can I getcha anything else? *chomps gum*



Just the check, please.
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Ann Launay
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08-30-2007 20:47
From: Brenda Connolly
Just the check, please.


Here you go! Thanks for your patronage! :)



*mutters* About time, too.
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From: someone
I am bumping you to an 8.5 on the Official Trout Measuring Instrument of Sluttiness. You are an enigma - on the one hand a sweet, gentle, intelligent woman who we would like to wrap up in our arms and protect, and on the other, a temptress to whom we would like to do all sorts of unmentionable things.

Congratulations and shame on you! You are a bit of a slut.
Susie Boffin
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08-30-2007 21:05
Yes
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Jig Chippewa
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08-30-2007 21:53
From: Victorria Paine
Because it's .. um ... fun?


Yeah I agree - what is wrong with FUN? I really am amused by the prudery I encounter here. Anyway, sensuality isnt limited to the bedroom.
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08-30-2007 21:56
From: 3Ring Binder
my only answer is "why would someone waste their time with someone they can't even touch, and worse- who might not be the gender they present in SL?"

silly.


It makes it kinda exciting - Come up and see me sometime Big Boy ... or err ... Big Girl.
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08-30-2007 22:28
i take offense to what Har said in this thread - Sunshine does indeed beam out of my bottom - i took my own poll and had 50 men in sl get down on their knees and look, reporting back to me that yes indeed my ass glows
Lias Leandros
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08-30-2007 22:45
From: Animations Pfeffer
Are you "cheating" your RL relationship with someone in SL?


From: Victorria Paine
Yes. The way I approach it is to view it as two parallel lives -- I'm me in both places, but the two lives nevertheless are different. So I feel the feelings inside me in RL as well (I'm not a split personality hehe!), but I confine what I *do* about those feelings to my virtual life rather than doing anything about them in my RL.
Yes, it can be and not everyone can do it --- that is, not everyone can keep the separation there, and not everyone is capable of loving more than one person, even if the two loves are kept separate and in different contexts that are not threats to each other. In my own opinion, if you can't do that, having deep emotional relationships with someone you meet online can be perilous unless you are willing to accept whatever consequences that may have on your RL.


From: Brenda Connolly
I am with agreement with Victorria on the compartmentalizing. SL is my first experience, but I am able to keep thing in their proper place. But I am single so there is no outside stress to worry about right now.


And no matter how reasonable and rational you make it out to be - It's still cheating.
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2k Suisei
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08-30-2007 22:58
From: Tod69 Talamasca
I vote No.

Just because the whole "sex in SL" thing is like wanking off to The Sims. :p


You need to upgrade to Sims 2.
Ri Rasmuson
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08-30-2007 23:08
From: errUh Oh
i take offense to what Har said in this thread - Sunshine does indeed beam out of my bottom - i took my own poll and had 50 men in sl get down on their knees and look, reporting back to me that yes indeed my ass glows


...and a very warm glow it is, too.
Colette Meiji
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08-30-2007 23:18
From: Lias Leandros
And no matter how reasonable and rational you make it out to be - It's still cheating.


Not to single you out

but the response to "Its cheating" I keep thinking is -


"So what?"
Victorria Paine
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08-31-2007 03:07
From: Lias Leandros
And no matter how reasonable and rational you make it out to be - It's still cheating.


Only if it goes against the "agreement" that the RL partners have. These "agreements" vary widely when it comes to a number of things, including online activities. What might be "cheating" for you, is not "cheating" for them, and vice versa. Now, I know it's much easier to live in a world of cut-and-dried blanket statements, but the reality is that there's plenty of diversity of perspectives out there on this, and a diversity of arrangements that people have, and so projecting your own views (legitimate as they are for you) as being universally applicable -- as you have done here -- is really pointless and misguided.
Trella McMahon
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08-31-2007 03:29
starts these goofy things over and over again is all I want to know. sigh, there are such wonderful things to do in SL then to drag mud around with a thread such as this that seems to never go away. Whatever a Avatar is doing, it is their SL, and whatever they do in their RL, it is too their RL, not your's. Get out of their bedrooms or life. The only one they must answer to is there higher power who they feel judges them after they die, not this forum or network tv, newsprint, or mags.. imho it is about as silly a question to be put here as, How many have RL sex, and how many cheat in RL? It's no ones business except the parties involved..
jmh2cents, shall we all move on to far more constructive threads.

I will also say one thing further, at least pixel sex is far safer sex, touch or not. Something which is very hard to say about RL in that it can kill you. One can turn off their pc with pixel sex, that is a little hard to do with things such as aids, and other sexually related diseases contacted during RL sex, wouldn't you say.

Blessings and take care of each other,,,,
Lias Leandros
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08-31-2007 03:53
From: Victorria Paine
Only if it goes against the "agreement" that the RL partners have. These "agreements" vary widely when it comes to a number of things, including online activities. What might be "cheating" for you, is not "cheating" for them, and vice versa. Now, I know it's much easier to live in a world of cut-and-dried blanket statements, but the reality is that there's plenty of diversity of perspectives out there on this, and a diversity of arrangements that people have, and so projecting your own views (legitimate as they are for you) as being universally applicable -- as you have done here -- is really pointless and misguided.

You did not mention an agreement in your orginal post. There are such things and societal morals and norms. And we both know those do not 'turn off' just because you sit in front of your computer and have a affair.Many people have affairs, flings and one-night-stands. If your partner is not aware of it it is cheating. But you can call it what you like so you can continue to do it with a clear conscious. How modern.
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08-31-2007 03:55
From: Colette Meiji
Not to single you out

but the resonse to "Its cheating" I keep thinking is -


"So what?"

"Divorce", "Child visitation", "Physical confrontations", "Lawyers".
That's what.
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Don Mill
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08-31-2007 04:25
From: Lias Leandros
There are such things and societal morals and norms.


Which might be different between different societies and cultures. What you, I, or anyone else consider cheating may not be cheating to somebody else. ;-)

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Colette Meiji
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08-31-2007 04:57
From: Lias Leandros
"Divorce", "Child visitation", "Physical confrontations", "Lawyers".
That's what.



And how is that different than whats gone on for time immemorial?
Victorria Paine
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08-31-2007 05:04
From: Lias Leandros
You did not mention an agreement in your orginal post. There are such things and societal morals and norms.


And there are such things as individual arrangements as well between the people involved. My life in RL is in many ways not in accord with "societal norms", so honestly you won't get much truck with me by referring to such things. I see them as mostly oppressive, to be honest.

From: someone
And we both know those do not 'turn off' just because you sit in front of your computer and have a affair.Many people have affairs, flings and one-night-stands. If your partner is not aware of it it is cheating. But you can call it what you like so you can continue to do it with a clear conscious. How modern.


Again it depends on the circumstances, the parties, what they have discussed or not, and the totality of the picture. Call it "modern" if you will, but reality, to me, is that nothing is cut and dried, simple, or black and white. I know that it is *easier* to think of things in simplistic terms, but as any marriage counselor worth her salt will tell you about so-called "affairs", they're just not a matter of black-and-white. Most literary treatments of them confirm this as well, but people still shy away from that sublety in favour of black and white ideas because the latter are simply more comforting.
Colette Meiji
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08-31-2007 05:23
Lets assume its cheating. (I personally could care less if it is or isnt)

Just becuase its cheating doesnt somehow place someone in the town center so the mob can stone them.

Ive been married for Seventeen years. Thats a Seven with a One in front of it - as in before Al Gore Invented the internets.

I highly doubt - In fact I find it impossible to believe - anyone who has been married over a decade hasnt at least thought about cheating at least once.

If they havent Their spouse sure has thought about it.

People will claim they havent, or their spouse hasnt. But I dont think they are being honest with themselves. All these "Dream marriages" peope claim to have when in mixed company are usually held up with a motar of a hope and a prayer. And those who hold theirs up as better than others - are usually in the most danger of that motar rotting.

Now those normal people not living in fantasy land who havent given in to temptation ever - Good for them! Thats to be commended. I sincerely hope their spouse hasnt given in to temptation either.


But those who have strayed - for whatever reason - who are you; who am I to judge? We are not them, we dont know what it is to be them.

Let those without sin,

Cast the first stone.
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