ESLers in Second Lfe - How can they be helped?

Some circumstances make derision quite inappropriate. In most cases, you will not be aware of the circumstances, and that can result in hurtful, unfair ridicule.

I know a resident who makes frequent grammar, spelling, and punctuation errors. English is his primary language. At one point, I made the same kinds of assumptions that many of us would make. Fortunately, I did not say anything derogatory about it to him or to others.

I then discovered that he was quite capable of typing impeccable messages when absolutely necessary. This led to another set of assumptions.

All my assumptions were proven to be horribly wrong.

Much later, I learned of the physical circumstances that prevent him from using two hands to type. Despite using the same hand for his mouse and to type, and having to look down at his keyboard while typing, he is someone who goes out of his way to help others inworld. I've been in a group when a newbie approached us, and I was amazed that the person who had the most difficulty typing was providing the most help.

He can slow down and type quite well when circumstances make that necessary. But because of the time and effort involved to add punctuation, make corrections, and type capital letters, his decision to not maintain faultless use of English is obviously the best one.

When I'm inworld, I sometimes set a timer for 10-15 minutes. During that time, I only use one hand for typing and using the mouse. I look down from the screen when typing, which causes me to miss much of what goes on inworld. I still haven't figured out how that friend of mine can build things in SL, using one hand for commands that require two keys, often looking away from the screen while in Edit, and working around all functions that require a keypress while moving the mouse. It's damn difficult, and it's a good reminder. I suggest that you try it, Pep.

See my comments above about publishing any deficiencies that you might have in profiles . . .

Pep ( . . . which renders the need to make assumptions redundant. )

See my comments above about publishing any deficiencies that you might have in profiles . . .

Pep ( . . . which renders the need to make assumptions redundant. )

The person I referred to prefers not to do that. Very few of his SL friends know his circumstances, and that's a preference to which he is entitled.

I use a translator in Sl, not perfect but helps.
I do wish ppl would put their language in the space provided in their profiles so I can set mine up to the correct lang for them

... I still haven't figured out how that friend of mine can build things in SL, using one hand for commands that require two keys, often looking away from the screen while in Edit, and working around all functions that require a keypress while moving the mouse. It's damn difficult, and it's a good reminder. I suggest that you try it, Pep.

Apparently only those with great minds can read this!

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Cna yuo raed tihs? Olny 55 plepoe out of 100 can.
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And while you're doing that, Pep, take the hand you're not using and ram it down your throat until you're chewing on your elbow.

Lindal (it's just a gag, really)

I think "effete" may be the word you are looking for. Or maybe not.

Yes, that would be a good word.....I didn't see that clarification listed in your profile?

Oh wait....yes, it's there....just a bit subtle.

Oh, I LOL'd... (/me waits for Pep to wriggle out of that one! )

Pep, I think your issue is not a matter of ESL, but of the fact that most people do not communicate in the dialect of English known as Peptic English.

Pep, I think your issue is not a matter of ESL, but of the fact that most people do not communicate in the dialect of English known as Peptic English.

If you are having trouble understanding a great number of other posters, perhaps the issue is not with their posts.

If you are not having trouble understanding them, then what is the issue?

English is a living language, constantly changing and refining as do all living, in-use languages. We as humans have considerable ability to sort out the spelling variances, misphrasings, etc, and going out of the way to point them out or to derail discussions over them is contrary to the purpose of language, not supporting of it.

If the interpretation is uncertain, ask. If there is a misunderstanding, identify it, accept it, and move on.

LOL!!!!

I think you mean DISpeptic English . . .

Nothing to wriggle out of.

Pep (If Mickey wants a word to describe any of her hallucinations or delusions I can probably find an appropriate one. )

People with erectile disfunction should also list it in their profile.

(go ahead, don't be shy Pep. It happens to most men your age.)

PS Did you notice how I didn't draw attention to her mixing up of "wreak" and "reek"?

LOL!!!!

I think you mean DISpeptic English . . .

Nope, I was thinking Peptic, as in acidic. Dispeptic works too. Dis issue may only relates to dis pep, and not to dose uder peps

My problem is not that *I* have that much difficulty in understanding badly presented posts; it is that others with poorer reading skills misunderstand them and magnify the misunderstandings!

Pep (Time and time again . . . )

Nothing to wriggle out of.

Pep (If Mickey wants a word to describe any of her hallucinations or delusions I can probably find an appropriate one. )

PS Did you notice how I didn't draw attention to her mixing up of "wreak" and "reek"?

Don't diss Pep!

Pep (Respect, mon!)

You never did explain in the other thread how I misunderstood the OP... which suggests that you are the one with the reading difficulties, not the rest of us.

Wait for it....

Oop, there it is!

And again!

You are not laid back enough to be Rasta, mon..... relax, enjoy the words, don't knock them....