Voice awareness for non-voice users

I'm actually quite tempted to talk to him, personally.

I don't think there would be many surprises.

LOL not to mention confusing.

Not the point

You're skewing my words now. I never said you can't get to know somebody...in fact, I say the opposite. My argument has always been that voice is much more telling than the written word...which is a totally different viewpoint than you say I say.

Hmmm...

It's very metaphysical, and difficult to explain I guess. I'm having trouble getting you guys to see what I mean...either that, or you just don't agree...which is fine of course, it's just that, my concept isn't really something anyone should disagree with...it's just...life. It is what it is.

The way someone says something...is more powerful than a thousands words. If fact, the phrase, 'words just can't describe' is a perfect example...but the way someone says something describes it all...the WAY they say it. Our brain is perceiving so much more than we realize when we listen to something someone says. We are so finely-tuned to a million different variables and fluctuations...

And it is these things which tells me about a person. Which gives me a feeling...in my gut if you will. An understanding. A connection. The way someone uses their voice and the things someone can say to me is much more revealing to me who that person is...

I'm repeating myself. I just...can't express what I mean I guess. The trouble is...I want you all to understand what I mean...not agree...just understand. And once you understand, you would instantly agree...lol...

The voice is magical and comes straight from the soul within...it can actually touch you in a way words on a page can't. A story can touch you yes...but a story in itself isn't alive...the voice on the other end of the phone is coming directly from the emotion filled creature you're talking to...

Anyway. Thanks for listening.

Is it? If someone who has a speech impediment uses voice, what is your reaction going to be upon hearing that person? How differently will that make you feel towards them? Sure, it gives you more information, but are you going to assume someone who slurs is a drunkard? Someone who can't put a sentence together fluidly is mentally slow?

We are such judgmental creatures, aren't we?

I realize this is a small percentage and slightly deviates from this entire discussion, but I maintain that voice is not necessarily going to be any more truthful than text.

You have no idea. You know nothing about me, or who I am from my forum posts...

My case in particular is a perfect example-point of this thread. If you talked to me, you'd see who I really was...

My written word is not quite as...easy to get along, charming, or non-confrontational as the real me. If you want to stop by sometime and say hi...you're more than welcome...I think it will give you a pinpoint example of what I mean.

You are not in the box for expressing your point of view. You are in the box for refusing to accept or understand anyone other point of view.

This is not surprising, BTW.

It is classic Michael Bigwig

For you.

Let us please not confuse personal perception with fact.

It's irrelevant because their speech impediment is part of who they are...the real them...also, what they choose to say, and how they say it doesn't change just because you stutter, slur, or lisp.

*OK, parts of how you say things may change..but the other parts...don't. The inflections, the emotion, the conviction...the choices, the style, the cadence...these things which come across in voice will not be altered if you have a speech impediment. And the parts of YOU that are in there, will not be hidden by a speech impediment.

You are who you are...I don't judge someone because they have a lisp...or a stutter...I judge them by what they say, how they say it, and the truth in their voice...it's all there if you just listen.

Why is it then that when telling a story, the book is more often than not better than the movie.

hmmm?

I understand everyones' points of view...all of you. That's not the case.

Actually, what I gather is that NONE of you understand (or accept rather) mine.

You all feel that the written word is just as telling as if someone where to speak to you...fine. If you guys want to live on that island...you go right ahead--I'll be on the boat at sea.

You don't spend time with people who have speech impediments, do you? That is clear.

*quietly walks away from this entire thread*

No, you're not. I understand exactly what you mean.

Your trouble is that some people don't want to understand you. They don't like voice. They don't like people telling them how inferior text is in comparison to voice. You're not going to persuade them otherwise. They wont listen.

Forget it, Michael!

OK. For me. We now have, for the record, your take on the situation. You believe what someone writes on paper, is just as telling as what they might say to you verbally. Got it. Tallied.

We can't listen if we aren't using voice, silly.

Well, it could be possible that some of us are more perceptive than others and realize you don't need audio to "connect" with someone. And that audio isn't a guarantee that the person isn't mis-representing themselves anyways.

You accuse us of automatically discounting what you say. Please don't return the favor.

Actually 2K, read more.

Even some people who like voice just fine are disagreeing with him.

Its not they don't understand Michal though - they just disagree. But Michael cant see how they could disagree if they understood him.

Have to agree on the misrepresenting part -

People do this in-person constantly.

So obviously Voice cant be immune to it.

Your first mistake is thinking that people dont understand. I believe people understand. However, to assume that just because -you- believe something to be a certain way and the only way can come off as insulting, thus why people get their dander up. Can you blame them for that one, really?

I think, personally, voice is more intense in some relationships. Although, when I see someone type something out, because I am quite the empath, I can feel how they say it, hear it in my own way without it having to include a voice. When someone says something in voice, I hear it with the intensity meant, but that doesnt mean I didnt feel the purpose before. This is why I said there are levels, degrees if you will, of intensity perhaps...instead of just saying you learn 'of' the person. You are learning the 'feel' of the person, or the feelings they are trying to share.

Just as much as you want us to understand what you are saying (There I go with a general us lol) I think those posting want you to understand that just because you feel you are learning more of a person and their soul only through voice doesnt mean that others cannot connect on the same deeper level without the sounds of a voice included. I know it might not make much sense to you, since you are set in believing it is your way only, but various views have valid points as well

Call it a personal preference I suppose, that doesnt mean one is more wrong than the other. Everyone wants to have the freedom to have their opinion. You just cant come in and say you are entitled to yours but others are not. I know you didnt say it outright, but here, implications are huuuuge!

Saying "It is what it is" cuts off anyone elses possible feelings. Saying "It is what it is, to me," see the difference? Granting others the simple luxury of believing what they believe often keeps them from being defensive

Voice is much more telling that text, I dont argue with that but its more telling about feelings that is, not just about 'who' a person is. Thats a big difference too.



The voice is magical, I agree, it can reveal a lot about what a person is feeling, however it isnt the only way to truly know someone and feel their soul. If it is, then someone is cutting themselves short of the experiences that you can get in opening yourself to peoples feelings. Here is where I turned though. When I am typing to someone, when not RPing, what they are typing isnt always a story. Sure, in some cases it is, but most of the time I am talking to friends (and my true friends I consider friends in RL even though we only know each other online) it is 'them' talking, not a story. So I know them, learn of them, their hearts, emotions, personality and even soul. Taking it to voice only intensifies and deepens the relationship, but doesnt suddenly make it valid. It was valid before, I knew them before (not all, granted) it just provides 'more.' Hopefully that makes sense, because it does to me

/me ends her silly babbling for a bit since her posting is so slow this way lol

I believe the expression used is 'Objection'




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