Voice awareness for non-voice users

Ah Ha! Why is 'voice' capitalized still? Be it a proper noun?

I'm jess joshing.

As a "feature" then yes, it is technically a proper noun as an entity in it's own right. Every bit as much as Windlight I guess.

Unless of course it's being used as a verb ...

Hmmm...I suppose that could be the case...did LL actually coin it as "Voice." That certainly doesn't have a TM after it, that I know.

Because its the subject of discussion, duh.

Opps "duh" might disqualify me from my gold star.

I wasn't aware that topics of discussion are to be capitalized. Interesting.

I finally get to Godwin this thread!

Grammar Nazi!

I enjoy teasing you...you know that. It's fun. You're my secret favorite Colette...you do know that right? If I sat behind you in school, I'd pull your pigtails.

I don't remember there being robots at my school. Guess the administration were all technophobes.

Hey you put me back in work mode with that VoIP mention, this is the result.

Not all proper nouns are trademarks. What a scary world that would be!

Ah...this again.

Michael, let me give you a counter-example. I met a fellow some months back, a wizard builder. Very articulate in text chat. He was also very charming and romantic...took me places, gave me presents...I liked him quite a lot.

One day, I heard him on voice. His voice was completely different from how I'd imagined it. Frankly, it was ugly. Slurred, hesitant, guttural. He sounded...well, like a thug. I was never able to think of him afterwards as I had before. (and no, I don't believe he had some sort of speech impediment.)

So...which was the "real" person? The brilliant, charming texter? Or the dangerous, growling voicer?

Voice might reveal the "real person". Or it could be yet another false impression.

I find this conversation very interesting.

Voice changed my SL forever.

It has enhanced it and made it even more real and wonderful for me.

For a long time I read on the forums how people hate voice and wished that it didn't exist and I never understood this as all of my friends use voice regularly and love it.

Now I have a better understanding of why some of you don't like it.

Very early on all of my friends and I discovered that use of voice chat was inappropriate for public gatherings/outings, too many people trying to talk at once, others not in our group don't want to hear what we are talking about, etc.etc.etc and started doing private group voice chats when we go out shopping or to live events and the like.

Also, in our large group of friends we have a couple of non-voice users, but all of them listen, and we make a concerted effort to "listen" to them when they type.

I think it comes down to etiquette and being respectful of others choices.

Often I chose not to use voice when we have a large group of friends together because I feel I have to shout to be heard, so I turn of my mic and start typing. My friends accept this without question.

Also, learning that I could turn up or down individual avatar's voice volume was a big plus.

All in all voice has been a wonderful addition to my SL and my friends, it has strengthened our friendships and bonded us together even tighter than before and I am thankful for it.

For what my opinion is worth...

FaTeke Wottitz

"So shines a good deed in a weary world."
Willy Wonka

Bravo. Couldn't put it better FaTeke

Couldn't have worded that any better. Any friendships falling apart because of voice weren't friendships in the first place.

Yes this we know Cherry...but are all trademarks proper nouns?

Interestingly one of our products at work is a proper noun which is emphatically all lower case. It kills me to type it that way.

How one talks is much more relevant to who they are...there are FAR more clues to who a person is, in their voice, as opposed to what they can THINK UP to write given the time. We can all be poets if we have time to gracefully produce our sentences...

But the way someone talks...their voice, their improvisational choices of dialog, their word usage, their verbal lexicon, their inflections, their tone...THESE things tell me much much more about who a person is...

The soul is revealed in verbal communication...the intellect in written. Or something like that.

If someone talks like a ghetto pimp...that's who they are. It doesn't mean they are stupid...it just illustrates a lifestyle...and much can be devised from a lifestyle choice.

At my work it's exactly the opposite; we have some products that are all caps, and they're trademarked. Drives me nuts to type them like that all the time.

Do you feel like you are shouting?

/me stares at you incredulously, opens her mouth to speak, closes it, shakes her head, and walks out.

It's a double edge thing, I have long time friends and we are quick to talk to ea other,
about *aCk* I can't logon can you?! or plans or company or needed clarifications,
or just to talk and that's great.
Then like, I was talking in Voice to this guy, hulking lurking avie
and he has this skippity-do-da happy little voice and I am standing there visually looking at this giant scary avie and the voice just doesn't match
or a cute little blonde fem, fire up Voice and it's a older gentleman.
Even informed beforehand, it does alter your prospective, even if you don't care, it's there.
A friend has a saying, sometimes we just see what we want to see,
maybe that is the case or maybe it's too stressful kinetically to the senses.
I'll stick to staying reserved to who I will or won't talk to.

*side note* No disrespects intended, some comments are just observations of no opinion or not meant to be offensive.
I do find it ironic Michael Bigwig, who seems to be very creative and intelligent and has an amazing avatar of the robotic nature wants to be interpersonal.

I read that in the second world war, morse code operators could 'hear' the agent's mood, state of mind, even whether they were telling the truth, from the tiny pauses and changes of speed, maybe spelling mistakes, and vocabulary in tapped messages.

I feel sure that I have experienced that in using text chat. I don't know what it is that am sensing, but haven't you ever felt that someone was distracted, or not telling the truth, or upset, or happy, or drunk, from their words and rsponses? Maybe there are some clues in body language as well? Even though the animations are programmed, choices are made by people of where to look on their screen (which you can see in head movements), where to stand, whether to stay still or move.

I'm not a psychologist, but with someone you know well you CAN hear their 'voice' in the way they write. You do get very close.

This is not an argument about voice versus text - circumstances are different for everyone, and you make your choices out of the options that are open or practical for you. All I'm saying is that there is a real person there, communicating in real time, and responding to you. If you listen closely, as you should, text tells you much more than the bare words alone.

A strange thing. When I remember long conversations a week or two later, it seems to me that I remember them as spoken, even though they were not. Does that happen to anybody else?

I think you know the answer. Judging by the way you went off him, it clearly shows that you felt the "growler" was the real person. I imagine he was upset when you went cold on him.

But thanks to voice you're a much wiser person now, and in future and you wont go prancing around with anonymous people.

Another YAY for voice!

Another "brilliant" observation by 2K.


It couldn't have been the fact that she got to know him text first allowed her to give a chance to a guy who normally would have been intimidating. That would have been too simple a way to read her post.

It's all imaginary. This is the problem with text. Many guys can imagine the beautiful woman and her gentle persona behind the text messages she sends. They then later find out that the woman is really an AI running on a ZX spectrum.

You can't get to know somebody by text.