Voice awareness for non-voice users

That's ok Colette. At least you have the balls to apologise.

Yes, I mentioned what it was originally I just didn't see the earlier part as debate.

Cute.

So if I disagree with you on this issue at all I must also fall into one of your generalizations.

/me pours oil on the troubled waters of this interaction, and accidently gets it all over both Colette and Cherry.

Damn.

Now you're each going to have to leave your keyboards and go clean up. Sorry about that!

<seriously, this is just frustrating you both, why not go give the cat a bath or something?>

Sigh.

Think what you like. I can't be bothered with this.

No Nika don't get oil in my lovely waves! Not unless it's suntan oil anyway

Voice is an interesting creature - I believe it is its own separate application, as I have seen the SL Voice process run/crash, and it will actually function even when the viewer freezes or logs you out without knowing it. I was dancing with my sweetie at Junkyard Blues and we both were locked up/logged out due to massive lag. But voice still worked.

/me is not touching that whole other stuff being discussed.

chicken!

Good cos it never should have been discussed. I apologise to everyone that I allowed myself to get sidetracked with it. Lesson learned!

Exactly Cristalle! I've been in some places where the music was a bit questionable but it was nice (ballroom) and we've been talking and listening to a stream outside SL and cos people were just dancing we only realised we'd crashed when we left. LOL.

Exactly!

If one wants to Speak to others, one should be able to.
If not, one should be able to!
No reason not to "have it your way".

Altho- I've seen yer imagination. Tsk Tsk Tsk! Shame on you!!!

Sry didn't mean to come across as agreessive or personal. It was late, I was tired and I didn't re-read b4 I posted.

Yeah there is. They haven't built in the capacity for any uh attachments yet.

YET. I bet it will come though. Until then ... fap fap fap (for the boys anyway ... not got a nice convenient word for the girls!).

This post was brought to you by "Mind In The Gutter As Usual When At Work And All Other Times" Productions ...

Its ok. I'm quite forgiving!

OMG! I can't wait for that! Just think of how many days of work will be missed!!!

"sticky keys" will take on a whole new meaning!!

Well ACTUALLY in general net terms such things exist already but they are rather expensive little USB devices. I'm torn whether I think that is tragic (cos yeah it is a bit) and whether it just saves expense on other devices which aren't linked in. And if you can't be WITH your loved one (or can't right that minute) ...

Mind In The Gutter

ALSO I want to see when they'll make the client which sends my av into RL when I log off and sleep so that she can clean my house and cook food for me. Bit like the Sims' Robot Maid but more monkey-like.

I'd give up voice AND Windlight for that

I just wanna see something so I have a clue. (^_^) I voted on the 2 still open Jiras today.

Now I know what a Jira is. \(^_^)/ WAI!!!

... And ... I LOL @ those of you debating gender-bending in a thread started by an age-player. (^o^)

Pfft ...

You going to send us some interesting cooking ingredients from Viet Nam?

Two words: Fish Sauce!! (^_^)y

LOL ... no lime leaves? Pwease?

I find this aspect of the discussion most interesting. The underlying assumption is that voice users *should* be considerate and accommodate non-voice users. Technical aspects aside (I can't get my microphone to work), why is the reverse not true?

Voice users should respect that some don't want to use voice, and agree to communicate via text. OK, fair enough. Shouldn't non-voice users also respect that some don't want to type to communicate and agree to use voice?

Doug

The theory is correct of course, but you're overlooking those people who for whatever reason can't use voice and therefore also cannot agree to do so.

Agreed. That's why I included the caveat about those with technical difficulties. However, it seems that the number of folks who *cannot* use voice is minuscule compared to the number who *choose* not to use it.

Doug

very few people are emotionally disturbed at the prospect of reading text, or typing.

the same can not be said for hearing people's voices, or speaking.


few people *CANNOT* type or read
The same can not be said for speaking or hearing


few people have to worry that their typing might be overheard by a child in the next room

Do I need to go on?

Voice *IS* invasive of privacy.. of environment, of identity.. Issues with destroying "the avatar illusion" aside... it forces people who are *ALREADY* huddled up to a computer for their socialization, to possibly confront many of the aspects of socialization that they do not like. The shy, the weak voiced, the lispers, the deaf.. These people can type, and have typed for years.

To have their longtime friends suddenly shun them because they aren't comfortable having their voice heard...

doesn't help them get over that fear.

Typing is always available to all users. it is the lowest common denominator (as there are so many keyboard controls required in SL, it is unlikely that someone would join who is dextrously handicapped.. and the blind.. well that's a topic for a whole other day.

I think on the whole it is, Doug, just some people have a bee in their bonnet about it here. Not referring to people who can't, or don't want to, use voice. Just the waves of Forum Warriors we get now and then.

In world I have not seen anyone get even remotely upset about voice issues, other than where someone is being overly loud, playing music or generally acting like an idiot (even the overly loud tends to be treated by people as accidental until proved to be deliberate). As has been stated here people tend to try to help others sort out their voice issues.

So this mic then ... what's the problem?

I'm not pathologic about it...I'll use voice if the situation demands it. But I much prefer text. I tend to meet voicers halfway...they speak. I'll listen. I'll type. They read. It works.