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Qie Niangao
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06-25-2008 04:37
From: Senga Tsarchon There are eight million stories in the naked city, but you won't hear any of them if you stay in the suburbs. QFT. Well, except in this case, there seem to be an infinite supply of stories from the outer suburbs, all about how a friend of a friend read about somebody's cousin who claimed to have been horribly, dreadfully abused on-line, o woe. Please, to anybody stumbling on this thread imagining it to be somehow representative of life in SecondLife, close your goddamn browser and get in-world! This all may be an interesting academic discussion for some, but it's bound to confuse anybody actually trying to figure out what if any "threat" is posed to new residents. Seriously, if I read this thread before connecting to SL, I'd never have met any of the wonderful, helpful, and overwhelmingly decent people I've met in-world because I'd be cowering in a corner somewhere, afraid to launch the viewer.
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Aryen Navarathna
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06-28-2008 07:48
From: Casey Seifert It's STILL not rape.
Nothing's forcing them to type, to acknowledge what's being typed, to not close the program, to press the power button et cetera~
Just because a few people are mentally unstable, do the rest have to suffer (lawsuits and possibly MORE restrictions/limitations applied) due to some people unable to operate themselves without holding someone's hand? We're adults (at least should be) holding hands to cross the road went a long time ago.
And no it's not just this case in particular, it's many things because people are unable to distinguish reality from virtual reality.
You have to draw the line somewhere, otherwise you'll pave the way to hell with good intentions. People who have an emotional reaction to suddenly finding themselves violated are not "unstable". While it's not a rape, it is and can be traumatic the same way that logging into SL and finding that your character has been deleted with all of your hard work destroyed would be. Even if it's "virtual reality" people invest time and emotions into it. |
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Aryen Navarathna
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06-28-2008 07:51
From: Ceka Cianci you did say it has all the same psychological effects of the act.it doesn't..terror is not there..not knowing if you are going to live or die or worse is not there..
there is only one option in rl in that situation..there are many when in a computer program..like click the x to log off ,shut down the computer, get up from the chair, turn off the monitor.. Pricking your finger with a needle and having it cut off are both "pain" just far apart on the spectrum. I believe he/she was trying to say something similar in regards to the emotions that surface when you are violated. |
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Ceka Cianci
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06-28-2008 10:14
From: Aryen Navarathna Pricking your finger with a needle and having it cut off are both "pain" just far apart on the spectrum. I believe he/she was trying to say something similar in regards to the emotions that surface when you are violated. I may have let my emotions get the better of me and been blinded in that sense.Actually there is no maybe about it i did do that...At the time it just felt as if it was being compared as the same.. I wasn't trying to win or lose a conversation or debate with anyone..Just more or less trying to explain that anxiety and this kind of rl terror are a world apart. By rights i should have never entered the thread to begin with..I just couldn't take how it felt like it was seriously taken and police involved as if it were the same thing..Maybe sexual assault on some level..But Rape it will never be that.. Your analogy fits much better than anything i have said so far.. I am Sorry if i had offended anyone in this thread. I tend to leap into certain things when i should step back and let the calm side take over.. sorry for any misunderstandings i may have had.. |
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Aryen Navarathna
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06-29-2008 08:47
From: Ceka Cianci I may have let my emotions get the better of me and been blinded in that sense.Actually there is no maybe about it i did do that...At the time it just felt as if it was being compared as the same.. I wasn't trying to win or lose a conversation or debate with anyone..Just more or less trying to explain that anxiety and this kind of rl terror are a world apart.
By rights i should have never entered the thread to begin with..I just couldn't take how it felt like it was seriously taken and police involved as if it were the same thing..Maybe sexual assault on some level..But Rape it will never be that..
Your analogy fits much better than anything i have said so far..
I am Sorry if i had offended anyone in this thread.
I tend to leap into certain things when i should step back and let the calm side take over..
sorry for any misunderstandings i may have had.. I can't speak for anyone else but I never felt offended. |
