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Boy Lane
Evil Dolly
Join date: 8 May 2007
Posts: 690
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12-06-2008 08:18
From: Dakota Tebaldi I was under the impression that the garlic necklace was free...but I was also under the impression that it's purpose was to remove your name. That's what it's point supposedly was. If it does not do that...well, then somebody somewhere lied, and the odd thing is I don't feel to surprised. Your name does not get removed. You are put into another database or you get at least a label telling the zombies not to bite you. That's also the only way how this can work. So no, your name does not get removed. That was tested and confirmed with someone who has the HUD. They are liars about the garlic necklace.
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Sredni Eel
DJ Johnny
Join date: 22 Jan 2008
Posts: 414
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12-06-2008 09:26
From: Boy Lane Your name does not get removed. You are put into another database or you get at least a label telling the zombies not to bite you. That's also the only way how this can work. So no, your name does not get removed.
That was tested and confirmed with someone who has the HUD. They are liars about the garlic necklace. Actually, it's free but really hard to find. I have one if anyone wants one.
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Boy Lane
Evil Dolly
Join date: 8 May 2007
Posts: 690
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12-06-2008 09:35
I just posted this in xstreetsl. Enough said. I hope LL takes action.
"I did not agree to get my soul or whatever stolen and to be put in an online database of an unknown use. To put people in such database against their will is a criminal offense. Simple as that.
I contacted them, only to get a "Garlic Necklace" with closed scripts back, scripts I also do not know what they do, and I do not trust at all.
These scripts were tested and proven not to remove any details from the bloodlines database / website, but rather add additional details to ones account in there.
That is absolutely unacceptable and I expect my details to be completely removed. I also expect Bloodlines to take responsibility for the Ponzi scheme they created to lure people in to sell their products.
Until then I will ban every bloodlines member that comes into our place."
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MoiselleErin Teardrop
Fat p00n!t4r
Join date: 13 Nov 2008
Posts: 125
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12-06-2008 10:48
There sure seem to be a lot of vamps in SL, I think roughly 1 out of 8 people I see on SL are vampires...
My very first day some vamp bit me. And for the record - I don't hang out anywhere that there should be a high number, places like dungeons or anything... Shoot normally it is one of the n00b areas like avatar island or help island or whatever place there are actually people.
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Boy Lane
Evil Dolly
Join date: 8 May 2007
Posts: 690
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Bloodlines keeps tracking people against consent
12-06-2008 19:14
Some additional confirmation about the databases they track people with against their will. The "Garlic Necklace" doesn't remove you from their database, it adds more data about you into their system. That makes it not better but worse and proves Bloodlines to be liars about the removal! As I wrote before I did not give my consent to be listed in their database, and doing so is a criminal offense in many countries. To confirm this; I got the following Notecard from one of the creators of the bloodlines pest. "Hi Boy, We've manually activated the necklace for you: deactivated your account and put you on our no-bite list. You can view our privacy policy here: http://www.slbloodlines.com/privacy.phpLet me know if you have any further questions." And my answer to that: "I don't know if I was somehow unclear. I asked you to remove my details from any and all of your systems. That includes whatever no-bite list, databases, websites etc. you have. All of them, completely! I'm not interested in you privacy policy, I'm not interested in any business with bloodlines and I'm not interested to be in any form or way associated with your system. Again, you have a couple of days left to comply. Boy Lane"
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Jannae Karas
Just Looking
Join date: 10 Mar 2007
Posts: 1,516
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12-07-2008 06:45
How can you find out if you are in their data base? I don't remember ever getting bitten, but then again..... 
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Gabriele Graves
Always and Forever, FULL
Join date: 23 Apr 2007
Posts: 6,205
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12-07-2008 13:12
From: Jannae Karas How can you find out if you are in their data base? I don't remember ever getting bitten, but then again.....  Perhaps Boy's av is still listed at the Bloodlines website, though it sounds from the response that Boy received they intend to keep records about his av regardless of his actual request for a purge of all such records.
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Raudf Fox
(ra-ow-th)
Join date: 25 Feb 2005
Posts: 5,119
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12-07-2008 15:09
From: Gabriele Graves Perhaps Boy's av is still listed at the Bloodlines website, though it sounds from the response that Boy received they intend to keep records about his av regardless of his actual request for a purge of all such records. *nods* That's the only way the garlic necklace would work. It just moves (or takes) your name in another DB. Which is why I refused to use the idiotic thing.
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Gabriele Graves
Always and Forever, FULL
Join date: 23 Apr 2007
Posts: 6,205
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12-07-2008 16:00
From: Raudf Fox *nods* That's the only way the garlic necklace would work. It just moves (or takes) your name in another DB. Which is why I refused to use the idiotic thing. Indeedy however he also sent them a written request to have all his info purged by the looks of his posts to which they replied that they had just marked his account in the same way (I presume) that the necklace would. Of course that would leave him vunerable to bite requests again which may not be what he wants but they should have honoured his request anyway - Not satisfactory at all imo.
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Boy Lane
Evil Dolly
Join date: 8 May 2007
Posts: 690
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12-07-2008 19:59
Bloodlines / Liquid Designs is intentionally and repeatedly violating rules/laws of business conduct and data protection. I summarized all here: /327/ea/296657/1.htmlBoy
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Raffles Swashbuckler
Registered User
Join date: 22 Sep 2008
Posts: 1
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12-07-2008 21:16
The Garlic does remove you from the website. I got bitten and saw that my name was on the biter's page, so I got the garlic, activated it and my name is no longer on the page, and no other Bloodlines vamp can bite me... I get no spam at all if they even try.
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Gabriele Graves
Always and Forever, FULL
Join date: 23 Apr 2007
Posts: 6,205
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12-07-2008 21:33
From: Raffles Swashbuckler The Garlic does remove you from the website. I got bitten and saw that my name was on the biter's page, so I got the garlic, activated it and my name is no longer on the page, and no other Bloodlines vamp can bite me... I get no spam at all if they even try. It removes you from the web page but not their database. They still retain an account for you, it is just that you can no longer see it and it is flagged with a "cannot bite flag". If removal from the website meant that your account and all information was purge, it would be possible to bite you again just like any new person.
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Amaranthim Talon
Voyager, Seeker, Curious
Join date: 14 Nov 2006
Posts: 12,032
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12-07-2008 22:07
OK- maybe i am dense - but what's the big deal? I mean about their database- who cares- it's not like u really are a vampire- so what am i missing that has everyone in such a tizzy over being on their list?
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Boy Lane
Evil Dolly
Join date: 8 May 2007
Posts: 690
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12-07-2008 22:41
Bloodlines is a Multi Level Marketing and Pyramid Selling scheme. Someone bites you, steals your soul and your data is put in an external online database system of commercial use. To get your soul back you are forced to buy a potion from them for 999L.
Besides being attacked from zombies in malls and public places all over that are in no way related to any roleplay, and regardless if you see this as a game or not; it's a serious intrusion into everybodies privacy. My RL name is registered with LL and my AV is associated with that. Bloodlines/Liquid Designs violates Linden Labs TOS by listing my name in an external database. Bloodlines/Liquid Designs violates the California Online Privacy Protection Act (OPPA) by not providing a sufficient privacy policy.
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Marianne Little
A hopeless fool
Join date: 14 Aug 2007
Posts: 645
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12-08-2008 01:09
I was curious and started to wonder if I was bitten. I mean, the first weeks in SL is rather confusing, with blue pop-up windows just a part of the things that I needed to learn.
So I googled Bloodlines, found the page and typed in my name. Nothing came up, means I'm not into it???? Heh, I hope so. Even if bitten once and not buying any portions or such stuff, I should still be listed there as "Bitten by xxx"?
Phew! What a relief, I can't say I like the thought of being in a database that I haven't agreed to. If I had found my name there... I would have AR'ed the so-called vampire, and the owner of the Bloodlines system.
I bet nothing would have happened to the spampires. But if one avatar get 100+ AR's for violating the TOS and register other avatars names in external databases against their will, and not removing them by request, the LL would have to do something about it?
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Boy Lane
Evil Dolly
Join date: 8 May 2007
Posts: 690
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12-08-2008 02:06
Marianne, the only way to properly check is with a vampire HUD. Try to find someone who is one of them and willing to check for you.
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Boy Lane
Evil Dolly
Join date: 8 May 2007
Posts: 690
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12-08-2008 02:13
Marianne, the only way to properly check is with a vampire HUD. Try to find someone who is one of them and willing to check for you.
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Kyrah Abattoir
cruelty delight
Join date: 4 Jun 2004
Posts: 2,786
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12-08-2008 02:22
From: Marianne Little I was curious and started to wonder if I was bitten. I mean, the first weeks in SL is rather confusing, with blue pop-up windows just a part of the things that I needed to learn.
So I googled Bloodlines, found the page and typed in my name. Nothing came up, means I'm not into it???? Heh, I hope so. Even if bitten once and not buying any portions or such stuff, I should still be listed there as "Bitten by xxx"?
Phew! What a relief, I can't say I like the thought of being in a database that I haven't agreed to. If I had found my name there... I would have AR'ed the so-called vampire, and the owner of the Bloodlines system.
I bet nothing would have happened to the spampires. But if one avatar get 100+ AR's for violating the TOS and register other avatars names in external databases against their will, and not removing them by request, the LL would have to do something about it? Not really, i and several peoples maintain databases of avatar keys ( http://kdc.ethernia.net/sys/name2key.php ) totally against the will of the said avatars and to my knowledge there hasn't been any actions against it ever made by linden labs.
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Boy Lane
Evil Dolly
Join date: 8 May 2007
Posts: 690
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12-08-2008 02:51
Kyrah, that is not the same. You don't use that for a pyramid scheme, you don't attack people, and you don't try to sell them something to get themselves removed.
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Reficul Aeon
Registered User
Join date: 18 May 2008
Posts: 5
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12-08-2008 03:22
mmm tbh sick to death of the them hanging in NOR RP sim for bites for the stat whores to rack up.
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Raudf Fox
(ra-ow-th)
Join date: 25 Feb 2005
Posts: 5,119
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12-08-2008 04:40
From: Boy Lane Kyrah, that is not the same. You don't use that for a pyramid scheme, you don't attack people, and you don't try to sell them something to get themselves removed. No, Kyrah might not, but there are people who use avatar keys to spam group invites and other crap via objects. Of course, we have the ability to AR the idiot who does this as a spamtard. Really, the only reason I am against it is because it forces others into another's RP system. If I want to join, I'll buy the HUD that says, "Victim." Since I don't have that, I apparently don't want in on their idea of RP. So, I deal with Bloodlines spampires the same as I deal with spamtards. AR, mute or if they are on my land, I ask them nicely once to knock it off and if they fail in that request, I send them on their merry way with a swift boot and ban.
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Sassy Romano
Registered User
Join date: 27 Feb 2008
Posts: 619
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Role play at it's finest...
12-08-2008 06:50
-- Instant message logging enabled -- [6:05] Spampire: hi [6:05] Spampire: i play a game [6:05] Spampire: can I byte you ? [6:05] Spampire: If you accept I give you 50 linden [6:17] Sassy Romano: p*ss off with your stupid bloodlines
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Skell Dagger
Smitten
Join date: 26 Jun 2007
Posts: 1,885
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12-08-2008 08:03
From: Sassy Romano -- Instant message logging enabled -- [6:05] Spampire: hi [6:05] Spampire: i play a game [6:05] Spampire: can I byte you ? [6:05] Spampire: If you accept I give you 50 linden [6:17] Sassy Romano: p*ss off with your stupid bloodlines /me snorts. Ah, good way to haul in those innocent, money-needy newbies, that. Wonder if, like the 'surveys', the HUD then yells out: "Stupid NoobAvatar has just been paid 50L$ for letting Spampire NoobHunter OWN HIS SOOOOOOOOOUUUUUL - MUAHAHAHAAA!!!" Cue clueless newbie thinking his Second Life has now been ruined and he'll forever be at the beck and call of Spampire NoobHunter. An army of soulless vampire victim bots! Aieee! (No, Phil, you can't have 'em!  ) Hey. Wait. Doth Hollywood call for a script...? 
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Yumi Murakami
DoIt!AttachTheEarOfACat!
Join date: 27 Sep 2005
Posts: 6,860
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12-08-2008 08:05
From: Sassy Romano -- Instant message logging enabled -- [6:05] Spampire: hi [6:05] Spampire: i play a game [6:05] Spampire: can I byte you ? [6:05] Spampire: If you accept I give you 50 linden [6:17] Sassy Romano: p*ss off with your stupid bloodlines Actually, for role-play that's nearly correct. (Role-play is not the same as acting; if there really were vampires, not every vampire would be eloquent, and it's quite right that a desperate vampire might indeed pay a mortal to allow themselves to be bitten.) Bloodlines, for all its faults, does perfectly represent part of the core paradox of vampire RP: you have to bite people to live, but people don't want to be bitten. It doesn't, though, represent the other half, which makes this actually interesting: you can't just not bite anyone and die for the good of the world, because then there is nobody to fight the REALLY nasty vampires. It actually comes close to the paradox of RP on SL as a whole. You have to be able to enact your role to RP, but others don't want to support you. But if nobody can enact a role, then SL is just a graphical talker with building tools, which is bad for everyone.
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Ann Launay
Neko-licious™
Join date: 8 Aug 2006
Posts: 7,893
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12-08-2008 08:15
From: Boy Lane To get your soul back you are forced to buy a potion from them for 999L.
That's only relevant if you're actually involved in Bloodlines though...it's not like they can really steal your soul for the purposes of SL as a whole, so buying the potion is pointless unless you want to play.
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