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Yosef Okelly
Mostly Harmless
Join date: 26 Aug 2007
Posts: 2,692
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12-08-2008 09:02
No one can steal your soul in SL
unless they have purchased on of my exclusive and porpriatary soul-stealling cameras. Now available in a choice of colors to match your mood. If you act now I will throw in the official Avatar Suspension suspension system for only 9999L$. With the ASS, I and only I can keep you avatar key safe in case you are banned. Once the technology exists to un-bann you, your personal avatar key can then be retrieved from our secure facilities (a.k.a. a sticky note) so that your avatar can live in comfort and security knowing that no other person can have your avatar key.
But wait, there's more.
You can double your order for only twice the price. You heard right. you can pay me twice the already low cost and I will save your avatar key in two places. That's security I can take to the bank.
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Damien1 Thorne
Registered User
Join date: 26 Aug 2007
Posts: 4,877
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12-08-2008 09:06
Wait a minute... my Avatar has a soul? Okay not mine, but normal people? 
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Boy Lane
Evil Dolly
Join date: 8 May 2007
Posts: 690
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12-08-2008 09:50
From: Yosef Okelly No one can steal your soul in SL
unless they have purchased on of my exclusive and porpriatary soul-stealling cameras. /me laughs So this is all a conspiracy and you are behind XD... Would be fun if it would not affect newbies who don't know better. A lot of the zombies hang around in welcome and freebie areas just for that reason. And there are also people with religious beliefs in SL. Quite a number actually.
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Amaranthim Talon
Voyager, Seeker, Curious
Join date: 14 Nov 2006
Posts: 12,032
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12-08-2008 13:27
From: Damien1 Thorne Wait a minute... my Avatar has a soul? Okay not mine, but normal people?  Mine even has a heart.
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Raudf Fox
(ra-ow-th)
Join date: 25 Feb 2005
Posts: 5,119
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12-08-2008 13:31
From: Amaranthim Talon Mine even has a heart. And whose avatar did you rip it from?
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Argent Stonecutter
Emergency Mustelid
Join date: 20 Sep 2005
Posts: 20,263
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12-08-2008 13:39
From: Boy Lane Bloodlines is a Multi Level Marketing and Pyramid Selling scheme. Someone bites you, steals your soul and your data is put in an external online database system of commercial use. To get your soul back you are forced to buy a potion from them for 999L. I have a wand that can steal your soul without you having to agree to anything. A fellow with a copy of the same wand once stole Anshe Chung's soul with it. It was grey.
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Qie Niangao
Coin-operated
Join date: 24 May 2006
Posts: 7,138
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12-08-2008 13:42
Evidently there's a huge after-market in used souls. (Who knew?) So, instead of just being bitten and "joining the 'roleplay'," create 500 alts, bite them, and sell their souls on for profit. (Hint: Cash out frequently. See http://www.sluniverse.com/php/vb/general-sl-discussion/21769-too-many-alts-permaban-second.html .) Helps the Bloodlines database grow without limit. So when newbies ask how to make money, or try to bite the old-fashioned manual way, now we can educate them about economies of scale. 
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Argent Stonecutter
Emergency Mustelid
Join date: 20 Sep 2005
Posts: 20,263
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12-08-2008 13:44
From: Yumi Murakami It actually comes close to the paradox of RP on SL as a whole. You have to be able to enact your role to RP, but others don't want to support you. If you're good at it, then you can generally get people to play with you. If you're not, you're going to have the same problem in any virtual world, whether it's 3d, 2d, text, or pencil-and-paper.
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Dakota Tebaldi
Voodoo Child
Join date: 6 Feb 2008
Posts: 1,873
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12-08-2008 13:50
You'll all notice a thread regarding Bloodlines and banning that has been nuked. For those who didn't get a chance to read it, here is a basic summary (from a thread at SLU): From: someone I don't feel comfortable reposting the whole message, since I do know this person (and it is a challenging read anyway), but here is what I learned from it:
He's appealing the bans, claiming it was actually one or both of his kids who created the extra accounts that LL banned him for. He created over 500 alts and collected the souls (L$599 apiece, apparently), and then SOLD the souls to other Bloodlines players for L$1200-1500. He cashed out at least $2,000 USD before his accounts were banned. He seems to suspect that the people behind SL Bloodlines ratted him out. There are several concatenated chatlogs between him and a friend who also harvests and sells souls. They help each other broker deals for selling souls. They trade notes on how to generate alts supposedly undetected. They end up acquiring a Google Apps account where they can batch upload hundreds of new emails, and then use one of the third-party SL portals that doesn't ask a lot of personal info to create their avatars. There is a chatlog with an apparent admin of Bloodlines which begins as a simple customer service issue, but then the admin realizes that the poster is admitting to running a business reselling souls. The poster requests a bloodlines vendor to speed up the time it takes to harvest alt souls. The poster encourages readers to flood Second Life with extra accounts and recommends both Google apps and a particular 3rd party SL portal. Rhetorically asks how alt soul harvesting is any worse than traffic botting, which apparently continues unpunished on Second Life. This changes a bit of the perspective on Bloodlines. I'm now convinced that the fellows who hang around noob welcome areas and such aren't "playing the game", or trying to force their roleplay on others at all. If this person is not simply lying about how much money he made, then what we know now is that "souls" collected from bites do not merely have an arbitrary game value, but a tangible monetary value as well. In essence, whenever you are bitten, the "attacker" at that moment literally creates something worth $599 lindens out of nothing - whether he chooses to trade the "soul" in for money or not, the value is still there. How can we use this information to our advantage? One suggestion: Boy's idea is correct. We should en-masse demand that we all be removed from any Bloodlines database - including the no-bite list. As the Bloodlines people explained to Boy, this would render us all susceptible to being bitten again - which, when asked, we allow to happen. Thereafter, we repeatedly demand our removal from the list, repeatedly allow bites, and repeatedly redemand removal. It would take a while, I suspect, but the result of this massive prey-in would be that souls become devalued, as every Bloodlines player would accrue so many souls that it would be foolish to pay a "harvester" L$2000 for one or two or even three more. Extrapolation: Two possibilities. One, soul harvesting would cease to become an efficient method of making money, and all the bite requests would die off after awhile; Two, the people behind Bloodlines would lower or eliminate the "price" of a soul, so that there would no longer be an incentive to pester unwilling or ignorant people with bite requests. Either way, the annoyance stops. I must say, that with all this money involved in souls and potions and the like, Bloodlines must be very lucrative. Additional option: if Bloodlines places the value of $599 lindens on a soul, or is somehow involved with/allows the sale of souls, then bite victims are being defrauded out of $599 lindens every time they are bitten. May not be much for one person, but how many thousands of residents have been bitten?
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Qie Niangao
Coin-operated
Join date: 24 May 2006
Posts: 7,138
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12-08-2008 13:52
From: Argent Stonecutter If you're good at it, then you can generally get people to play with you. This explains so much about my sex life. 
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Talarus Luan
Ancient Archaean Dragon
Join date: 18 Mar 2006
Posts: 4,831
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12-08-2008 14:30
From: Argent Stonecutter I have a wand that can steal your soul without you having to agree to anything.
A fellow with a copy of the same wand once stole Anshe Chung's soul with it.
It was grey. With a little subterfuge, I have a soul trap that is even better. Once I have trapped your soul, I can control your BODY! 
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Dakota Tebaldi
Voodoo Child
Join date: 6 Feb 2008
Posts: 1,873
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12-08-2008 14:45
From: Talarus Luan With a little subterfuge, I have a soul trap that is even better. Once I have trapped your soul, I can control your BODY!  "Puma-man! Do as I command!" 
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Amaranthim Talon
Voyager, Seeker, Curious
Join date: 14 Nov 2006
Posts: 12,032
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12-08-2008 15:19
From: Raudf Fox And whose avatar did you rip it from? I would never rip out a heart but do gladly share mine 
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Amaranthim Talon
Voyager, Seeker, Curious
Join date: 14 Nov 2006
Posts: 12,032
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12-08-2008 15:21
From: Dakota Tebaldi "Puma-man! Do as I command!"  Well i am sorry but this reminds me of ... girly man... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtJRNyPK-lc
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Yumi Murakami
DoIt!AttachTheEarOfACat!
Join date: 27 Sep 2005
Posts: 6,860
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12-08-2008 15:37
From: Argent Stonecutter If you're good at it, then you can generally get people to play with you. If you're not, you're going to have the same problem in any virtual world, whether it's 3d, 2d, text, or pencil-and-paper. That depends on how you define "good at it". Probably it's defined in this context as "that others enjoy". That isn't just a quality issue though, it constrains choice of action too. And, what is so great about these souls that Bloodlines players will pay L$1200 for one?
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Argent Stonecutter
Emergency Mustelid
Join date: 20 Sep 2005
Posts: 20,263
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12-08-2008 16:04
From: Yumi Murakami That depends on how you define "good at it". Probably it's defined in this context as "that others enjoy". That isn't just a quality issue though, it constrains choice of action too. If you don't care whether other people enjoy the role-play you want them to take part in, you're unlikely to succeed in engaging them in the scenario of your choice no matter where you're playing.
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Yumi Murakami
DoIt!AttachTheEarOfACat!
Join date: 27 Sep 2005
Posts: 6,860
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12-08-2008 16:08
From: Argent Stonecutter If you don't care whether other people enjoy the role-play you want them to take part in, you're unlikely to succeed in engaging them in the scenario of your choice no matter where you're playing. It's not to do with caring though. If you want to play a role that you can't massage into something others enjoy, caring about it does not change that fact. The most typical such roleplay is wanting to RP someone much more skilful than the real player.
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Ceka Cianci
SuperPremiumExcaliburAcc#
Join date: 31 Jul 2006
Posts: 4,489
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12-08-2008 16:19
i am working on a script that when asked to be bitten i agree and then mine kicks in stabbing them with a steak in the heart blocking their bite and adding them to a kill list on my website.. and turning them to ashes until they buy my potion that cost 2,000L and a wirtten statment saying they suck as a vampire.. i wish i really had a script i was working on like that but i'm not that good lol
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Argent Stonecutter
Emergency Mustelid
Join date: 20 Sep 2005
Posts: 20,263
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12-08-2008 16:19
From: Yumi Murakami It's not to do with caring though. If you want to play a role that you can't massage into something others enjoy, caring about it does not change that fact. The most typical such roleplay is wanting to RP someone much more skilful than the real player. Find other people who also want the same thing, and devise a scenario where you get to play out that role. That doesn't mean "taking turns being the audience", unless you all enjoy that as well. If you can't figure out a scenario to match, well, that's part of the skill of role-playing.
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Talarus Luan
Ancient Archaean Dragon
Join date: 18 Mar 2006
Posts: 4,831
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12-08-2008 16:21
From: Argent Stonecutter If you don't care whether other people enjoy the role-play you want them to take part in, you're unlikely to succeed in engaging them in the scenario of your choice no matter where you're playing. That's usually because what most people think RP is about is simply playing a character. They get together with other characters and act out their character's personality, behaviour, etc. So do all the others they are there with. Rarely, they are even remotely compatible, like playing a cowboy from the old west, and an alien from the planet Zark. As a result, many of them get quickly bored, and don't bother RPing further. However, characters themselves do not a RP environment make; it requires a story, a setting, perhaps a plot. Having people with compatible genres is a good start, but without an environment, even mostly imagined, to interact within, it becomes hollow and empty rapidly.
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Argent Stonecutter
Emergency Mustelid
Join date: 20 Sep 2005
Posts: 20,263
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12-08-2008 16:28
From: Talarus Luan However, characters themselves do not a RP environment make; it requires a story, a setting, perhaps a plot. In tabletop roleplaying we called that a "scenario", or for a more extended game a "campaign". I figure a scenario is enough to get started with... but initiating an encounter in character is a way to engage people in the longer-running role-play.
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Yumi Murakami
DoIt!AttachTheEarOfACat!
Join date: 27 Sep 2005
Posts: 6,860
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12-08-2008 16:34
From: Argent Stonecutter Find other people who also want the same thing, and devise a scenario where you get to play out that role. That doesn't mean "taking turns being the audience", unless you all enjoy that as well. If you can't figure out a scenario to match, well, that's part of the skill of role-playing. Finding other people has the "waiting alone" problem though, and the tacit assumption that such a scenario always exists to be found isn't justified I think.
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Talarus Luan
Ancient Archaean Dragon
Join date: 18 Mar 2006
Posts: 4,831
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12-08-2008 16:40
From: Argent Stonecutter In tabletop roleplaying we called that a "scenario", or for a more extended game a "campaign".
I figure a scenario is enough to get started with... but initiating an encounter in character is a way to engage people in the longer-running role-play. Yup. I remember.. ..it's been so long. :-/
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AnnMarie Coronet
Registered User
Join date: 20 Nov 2006
Posts: 39
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12-09-2008 01:34
From: Ceka Cianci ...
stabbing them with a steak in the heart blocking their bite and adding them to a kill list on my website..
... Is that steak blood rare - or medium, or well done? 
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Ceka Cianci
SuperPremiumExcaliburAcc#
Join date: 31 Jul 2006
Posts: 4,489
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12-09-2008 03:14
From: AnnMarie Coronet Is that steak blood rare - or medium, or well done?  Oh my GOD.. I am so sorry..In my haste i have misspelled a word which obviously has thrown you completely out of the possibility of understanding anything i was trying to say. *bows her head in shame pulling out her note pad* Note to self..(Ceka you really need to have more compassion for the anally retentive.post pictures just to be safe) OMGZORZ eye can feel et..Can u fell et tew??U haff imprewved MEH!!! \0/ whoooo hoooo!!!!  
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