How Do You Know If You've Been Ignored?

I thought you were taking a day off too, having learned a lot yesterday . . .

Pep ( . . . about yourself, if nothing else.)

Listen, Chuckles, that money should be funnelled into the arts and not in to some zany PhD elitist piece of tosh.
So it's "Thirsty Thursday" is it?
Jeesh you certainly know how to press the right buttons!
The Arts need that money - Gimme it!

It IS being funnelled into the arts!

ME!!!!!

Pep . . .

/me glares in an admonishing fashion . . .

I was educated in teh Univesrity of Life!

You learned something from yesterday then.

Pep (is good at explicit admonition.)

You are probably better off.

As Frank Zappa said.."If you want to get laid go to college. If you want an education, go to a library."

Just as a sort of aside . . .

It's always struck me as rather illogical to imply that those who pursue an education of the more institutional (and expensive) sort do not ALSO get educated by "life." I mean, it's not as though enrollment in my programme involved plucking me "out" of life, and erasing from my mind a few decades of worth of experience in it.

Just sayin' . . .

I learn "something" from every day.

(See my posted reply to Jig, above . . .)

No, but a lot of times the people educating you seem to be shockingly out of touch with that life..as if they haven't ventured out of their ivy covered enclosures in a long time.

I suspect that is true. But then, that isn't what I am going to them FOR. I wouldn't attend an English lit class to learn about chemistry. Or about life, for that matter.

A lot of them are dolts, I suppose. But highly and usefully specialized dolts.

And what is your profession, Brenda?

Pep (Jus' askin'.)

That's why I can speak from a position of authority.

And it is also a profession I have for the most part abandoned, at least on a full time basis.

When I was employed in the Public Schools, I always encouraged students to seek alternatives to the standard college experience. I encouraged them to look into the Military, Trade Schools, or do as I did, a couple of years of work/travel between High School and College.

Secretly (coz none of you know me really), success is nice, but I sometimes wish I did have a higher-up education.
If I ever had a kid - which I WON'T! - I'd make them work really hard at school. And never let them go out with boys. Or let them drink. Or have a pile fo friends who lead you down the wrong path in life coz they just wanted to see you fail. Then I got mizzers about school (however good a school it was) and wasted my time and the teachers time. I was such a little bitch. I made one teacher really cry and she later told me I was the one student who almost made her leave teaching, I was so awful.
And 'd send them to a university. I just went the wrong way and made money and then as days turned to weeks to months etc, I got further and further from that.
Anyway, I was thick as a plank. That's a disadvantage.

Really?

Pep (I'd never have guessed. )

/me glares admonishingly again.

It's true. I just wrote above that I made one teacher so sad she almost left teaching forever. And taht was in Art class!!!! My fav. subj. I didnt have a clue how to behave. Or rather, I did - I just didnt want to.
Truly if Scylla is at a uni. well, good on her!
I'm just a little envious in a confessional kinda way. Really. I am.

I remember her dragging me out into the hall (serously posh school) and really tearing up and asking why I was so stubborn and angry and all combative. And I just stood there like the perrenial bitch and stared her down and looked away. My heart was breaking inside but I couldnt tell her. I was that sorry.

Jig, some of the smartest people I know never went to college or finished high school for that matter. Plus it is never too late ..if that is what you want to do. My Dad didn't finish High School..he got his GED in The Navy, joined the Fire department afterward and besides professional training, never ventured into a classroom again. But he read vorasciously, loved talking to all sorts of people, and was alays teaching me things . He graduated from your University of Life, with a PHD and High Honors. And he could run rings around most of the "Intellectuals" I met in Grad School.

Brenda, thanks for your note. I quoted myself here in case you missed it, coz I suspect you were really involved in education and I want you to know that sometimes kids (especially girls) can do really stupid things. So, I just apologize for us all.

(I think my pierced tongue set her off - - poor woman)

If your Dad was a fireman, then he was one of teh Lords of Life. They're special.

Anyway, I'm meant to be "creating" - so I'm off to real and to pay attention to my muses

I concur absolutely.

And more to the point (so far as I am concerned), uni teaches you nothing about being a good person. I'll take a gentle uneducated soul over a well-educated asshole any day.

College is a bit over~rated... oh, it's good and all, and generally just having the bit of paper means people will get paid a bit more in a job... but depending on the degree one might as well just put their kid on a cruise ship for four years instead.

It sort of depends what you do. I've got a degree, but not once in 20+ years after getting it did I properly use it, other than "yes I've got a degree, you can hire me."

The people who get ahead and stay ahead are the ones that ultimately don't work for anyone else, by having a business great or small, and quietly minding it. Look who actually can afford to pay their own way after retirement ~ something like over 90% of people in the United States can't do that for more than a few years, and the ones that can generally have a business.

One thing about college though... it was *glorious* fun. You feel smart and chase all sorts of intellectual topics by day, while chasing co~eds by night... a good time had by all. Then eventually you marry and suddenly find you've turned into your parents.

How about an uneducated asshole - like me?

Scylla is a gentle soul. She has a certain goodness that I can "read".

I thought you had me on ignore????

Jig, I am going to have to figure out some way of taking you with me EVERYWHERE.