Bloomin Campers Again

Actually, LL has gone in and required some landowners to remove, or lower the number of their camping chairs.

So it does help to AR these places, though I don't know how often they will do that.

Again, NOT that I have anything against camping.

I do have something against putting in so many chairs no one else can use the sim, and I especially have something against putting in a bunch of your own zombie bots just to move up the search.

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I love their Movies. Especially "A Night in Vladivostok" and " A Day on the Bread Line".

I like Lenin too, but Georgi was my favorite Beatle.

WOW!!! I think that in spite of my better judgement I will have to re-visit the camping thingie for a bit (borring as it is) I will look for a spot that is surrounded by communists, capitalists, nazis, budists, gays, goths, libertarians, green group, satanists...you name it. Just to see what all the hulabaloo is about... WTF!!! this thread is getting boged down with mud slinging...where is Strife when you need him/her?

I heard it goes up to eleven.

Some people want it to be a super clean place where normal business competition practises don't exist. Those people are dreaming. Some people want it so that all businesses are just hobbies and don't really need to make any money, except maybe tier. Those people are dreaming too. Some want it so that nobody does anything to change their search rankings - all dreamers. This thread is full of such dreamers.

...where is Strife when you need him/her?

Anytime the customers catch on to what you are doing to them, the customers will find another store. And that is what is going to happen here.

When it gets to 13, Sell.

I think hidden campers like this are often just multiple alts so the land owners don't even have to pay campers. They can park their free alts in a cube in a sky and watch their traffic numbers soar.

Just because there are parisites in RL does not mean we need to tolerate that here.

When it gets to 13, Sell.

Maybe it's time to dust off my creative skills and open up a low prim furniture shop. Without campers or bots or fake traffic figures.

Some people want it [SL] to be a super clean place where normal business competition practises don't exist. Those people are dreaming. Some people want it so that all businesses are just hobbies and don't really need to make any money, except maybe tier. Those people are dreaming too. Some want it so that nobody does anything to change their search rankings - all dreamers. This thread is full of such dreamers.

Hello All,

I think this will be my last post on this thread because as people have said, I think it's lost direction and focus.

It's been entertaining and interesting to hear people's views and it has given me some food for thought.

This sort of debate is what SL is all about, it is a very good environment for designing, implementing and analysing new social, economic and commercial models.

Funnily enough I do own a small company in RL, and am often confronted with many of the same issues we've discussed here, so can actually vouch for it's potential value in this regard.

The only caveat I'd place on all of this is that I think we do have to make a distinction between those who come to SL for fun and recreation (myself being one), and those that come in order to make a RL financial investment in the hope of making an RL financial gain.

I know that many people in SL have little or no commercial experience of owning or running a business and understandably get a bit ticked off when the filthy money men turn up with their dubious ethics and ruin our fun..

I also understand that SL has been marketed by LL as a real business environment where real dollars can be made. For those that come and invest financially and personally as a result, finding themselves targets of abuse for what are really perfectly viable business practices can also be frustrating.

Obviously the two perspectives will clash, and I guess we will have to find a way to accommodate both if SL is to develop in the way we all hope.

What we must do as recreational users of SL is make sure that we don't place so many prescriptive hinderances on the commercial users that they find it impossible to make a profit. I think we all lose out if this ever happens and they leave.

That's it, I'm sure I'll bump into you all again on other threads - or you never know, even in world..

Dreamers? Not only in this thread, but LL as well:

"It's our mission to connect us all to an online world that advances the human condition."

SL attracts dreamers, in fact I personally think that a lot of residents stay in SL solely because of its effectiveness as a wish-fulfillment environment.

LL clearly intends for SL to be a viable platform for small businesses, which fits in with their mission quite well. It would probably serve that purpose better if search were not so easily gamed ... but with 30-40 developers total, that has to not be the highest priority. Even so, the new search may be a step toward opening up their databases so that specialists in searching can address the problem for them.

Given that traffic still contributes to search position, I can't see why individual business owners should be castigated for using the tools they're given. If LL wants search to be ungamable, it is their responsibility to make it so. I can't see getting judgemental about campers using camping chairs, and I can't see berating Phil for boosting his traffic numbers. I also think that having scorn toward the idealism of SL residents who want it to be a better world than RL is not good business -- that is why most retail customers are in SL, because it seems better than RL. Those SL retailers who create shopping experiences that make residents FEEL GOOD about buying their stuff are the ones who are most in tune with SL.

Hello All,

I think this will be my last post on this thread because as people have said, I think it's lost direction and focus.

It's been entertaining and interesting to hear people's views and it has given me some food for thought.

This sort of debate is what SL is all about, it is a very good environment for designing, implementing and analysing new social, economic and commercial models.

Funnily enough I do own a small company in RL, and am often confronted with many of the same issues we've discussed here, so can actually vouch for it's potential value in this regard.

The only caveat I'd place on all of this is that I think we do have to make a distinction between those who come to SL for fun and recreation (myself being one), and those that come in order to make a RL financial investment in the hope of making an RL financial gain.

I know that many people in SL have little or no commercial experience of owning or running a business and understandably get a bit ticked off when the filthy money men turn up with their dubious ethics and ruin our fun..

I also understand that SL has been marketed by LL as a real business environment where real dollars can be made. For those that come and invest financially and personally as a result, finding themselves targets of abuse for what are really perfectly viable business practices can also be frustrating.

Obviously the two perspectives will clash, and I guess we will have to find a way to accommodate both if SL is to develop in the way we all hope.

What we must do as recreational users of SL is make sure that we don't place so many prescriptive hinderances on the commercial users that they find it impossible to make a profit. I think we all lose out if this ever happens and they leave.

That's it, I'm sure I'll bump into you all again on other threads - or you never know, even in world..

One thing this thread has shown is the practices and principles if one business owner , who at least has stated them upfront and without reservation. Now each of us , as a potential customer of his ,can decide if we want to give him our business.

What would Brian Boitano do?

Who is John Galt?

Why does Phil Linden wear a sequined codpiece, and are trafficbots morally acceptable?

All pressing issues of our times.

Philip Linden wears a sequined codpiece? That's how rumors get started.

Philip Linden wears a sequined codpiece? That's how rumors get started.