Christianity is "Adult"!

Yes though reinforcing what came about through evolution is somewhat unnecessary and redundant.

Did you miss my admission above sweety?

Point A) Where do you read any statement of surety that god does not exist?
Point B) Know that Jesus existed. Also know that transferring guilt is an idiotic concept. Can you cipher the diff?

Religion is pure bunk. Prove it isn't.

You're asking me to prove a negative. I know better than to fall into that trap.

If this is the case, that religion came about through evolution, it is because after thousands of years of trial and error we have found that it is the best way for people to preserve a certain level of decency in society, and to pass on the things they value the most to the next generation, which has been instrumental in the progression of societies where at one time little separated man from animals. In my opinion it is religion we have to thank for everything, and that it is responsible for all we have accomplished, beyond being just smart apes. Maybe we have learned through the process of evolution that without a code of reference for decency which prevents murder, rape and stealing from becoming acceptable, that there are enough people with bright ideas who will gradually turn the world upside down.

No it's not, it makes a point that it hasn't it gone away like our tails or what ever bits and bobs have?

Nor has war or kinky sex.

Despite what has been said, High Anglican evensong in a City of London church, designed by Christopher Wren, following Fire of London, is still one of most civilized spiritual experiences in life.
And I'm not a Christian.

Yes,cause people with religion never do any of these things.

/sarcasm off

You need a code of reference to be a decent person and to know it is wrong to kill or hurt another human being? Guess I have been doing it wrong all these years..

The Golden Rule isn't necessarily spiritual.

Pep (with the twin codicils a. especially if they are bigger than you and b. make sure you have a big stick ready in case they don't observe the Golden Rule themselves.)

Thank you Rioko. It never ceases to amaze me that people feel the need to offload their innate better sense.

Evolution works by removing the failures fro the gene pool in an ever changing environment(which also happens to be changing due to the evolution of neighboring organisms).

Societies which fail do not copy as often as ones that do not.

But you are leaving out the fact that you have been raised in a culture that was primarily shaped by Christian values. So like it or not, you do have a code of reference, even if you don't follow the creed that shaped it.

Can you name me a society that hasn't failed over time?

But society and evolution are two different concepts. If you want pure evolution, then the biggest, the strongest, and the most brutal will pass on their genes. But of course most societies are ruled by the strongest and most brutal.

*sigh*

10 pages later.

From the ratings blog:


That seems fairly clear in this instance.

Why is this still an active topic?

In that case, cute little bunnies should be vicious killers by now.

Oh...wait...



I stand corrected.

Only in an environment that favours big, strong and brutal individuals, and as Zen points out, environments are constantly changing. Strength and brutality don't appear to have been the most important genetic traits for a very, very long time. As a species, we have evolved to be social creatures, living and working together. Traits such as braininess (maybe of a Machiavellian kind), ability to adapt to rapid change and communication skills will get you much further in life than brute force (unless you live somewhere where society has broken down). If you are brutal enough, you may find yourself in prison, which severely curtails your chances of reproductive success.

Also, those who rule a society are not necessarily the most genetically successful. To find those, you are probably better off looking at the least successful (in terms of power and economics) sectors of a (western) society - that's where you'll find all those youngsters who have four kids before they are out of their teens and who become grandparents by their early thirties. That's genetic success: leaving lots of descendants.

Given that religion is such a worldwide phenomenon, I daresay it did evolve, probably as a means of reinforcing social cohesion. However, as environments change, it is not unusual for evolved features to lose their usefulness. Perhaps religion is fated, ultimately, to go the same way as human tails. Only time will tell.

Jesus Christ!!

Nice TOTD. McAdoo is one of my favorite historical figures.

Actually study biology. You will see that cooperation is much more effective at assuring survival.
From the mitochondria in every cell of your body to the fact that your individual cells are cooperating to sustain the genome. Take it how you will, but evolution doesn't work like you think it does.

the only problem i had was the OP started this whole thread on the slim to none chance they would ever build a church..but felt that for some reason the right to make one was going to be taken away..
why make a thread of something they never intended to make in the first place??

i am a victim maybe soon..so help me ahead of time cause i am bored and have nothing to do but sit around and make crap up to fight for..wha wha wha lol


they posted what maybe 2 times in this thread.. lol we have been trolled lol

I never thought the OP wanted to actually build a church, I thought they started the discussion to explore what could be a difficult grey area in the coming changes. I know there will be exceptions for cultural content, but what counts as cultural content will ultimately be somebody's judgement call, even if the example of a crucifix would likely not be a problem. I think it's ok to discuss hypothetical situations in relation to this.

In any case, I don't care if we have been trolled as there's been some really interesting stuff in this thread.

Ever notice in RL that those who should probably not go skyclad are the only ones who do.

i just saw another christian thread myself..
and this church being the excuse to start one..if it was about cultures and how it is going to affect them make it about all of them ..

title a thread Christianity and exclude the rest and it's not gonna stay on SL..
we are at evolution already which was only a matter of time..if the OP was concerned they would be in this thread more than two or three times..
and putting up more than two or three words..

i guess this kind of thing just reminds me of something like that lawyer that sent his son's into the boyscouts saying they were gay to try and get their 50 year old oath changed..

if it has something to do with them and they were wronged it would be a lot easier to support and take serious than something that may not happen but lets just make sure it never does..

that's like slapping the cuffs on someone because they might break into your house..
that's how i saw this thread and why i haven't taken it serious at all other than a few topics that popped up..

if the OP can't trouble themselves to chime in then it's just another planter planting seed's to clog up the system that is already clogged up..