Christianity is "Adult"!

Hey Ephraim, you are beginning to "get it"!

Pep (Master of exposure of the pointless argument)

Well said, thank you.

LL should check out the new Illuminated Bible... done in the style of a fashion magazine...

http://illuminatedworld.com/

I think if you examine your world history, you'll find that that statement is pretty far from accurate. Lots of people, children included, have been blocked from going into religious institutional houses of all sorts, including churches, by all manner of opposing groups and individuals, for all kinds of reasons. Whether or not it's ever happened just for the sole purpose of shielding childrens' eyes from portrayals of crucifixion, it has definitely happened.

Ridiculous beside-the-point rebuttal? Sure. But no more ridiculous or beside the point than your opening. Look, if you're going to offer such an obviously extreme semantic example as common church imagery as a challenge to the adult content policy, you'd do well not to open such a gaping semantic hole of your own as a basis for your argument.


To paraphrase the great Potter Stewart, Linden Lab might not be able fully to define adult content, but we all know it when we see it, and clearly the imagery in question here is not it. I would have thought that was rather obvious.


That said, my personal opinion is that there are many aspects of organized religion that we'd all be better off without. Had the church chosen to model its primary imagery on the positive teachings of Jesus, rather than on his torture and death, the world would likely be a very different place today.

That is pretty obscene for any paraphrased bible.

E.g., belittling vegetarians while ripping a goose apart [turkey?].

http://bibleilluminated.com/buy-the-book/

It is all too easy these days to decry anything violent as a negative but even earthquakes throw up some good things, which this metaphorical earthquake of a man allowing himself to be sacrificed in actual fact did: believers see the crucifixion as without question the most revolutionary and positive act that Jesus could have pulled off. So it's somewhat moot to get wise after the fact about how the Church should have treated the story of Jesus.

There's a strong argument that the archetypal sacrifice and resurrection was integral to the inception of the Piscean Millennium and that, without it, Western thought would not have taken the leaps and bounds of invention that it did. As a natural development of the Anthropos/Logos/Nous conundrum that fuelled the ancient philosophies of the Greek and Hindu cultures, the elevation of the Christ as Logos or Word lifted the Western mind's psychological ability to reason outside of mysteries and myths, enabling it to operate on the much sounder foundation of dialectics.

Otherwise we might just as easily still be living in tents and mud huts roasting our meals on hot stones.

I'd recommend a reading of Aion, Volume 9, part 2 of CG Jung's collected works - that or see a good priest who knows what he's talking about.

Yep. We'd all be Jewish.

Interestingly, the first followers of Jesus saw themselves as Jews and indeed sought to be recognised as such since that was the only non-Roman religion sanctioned in the Empire at the time of Christ.

The nickname 'Christian' was first applied in Antioch (currenty Antakya in southeastern Turkey) several decades after Christ.

Ut oh! Someone came out of the closet, so I'll join in. "Hello everyone! My name is PS, and I'm a Jungian. And, yes, I own the Collected Works."

And don't they make fascinating reading? I wish there were a few more grand old men and women like him still.

/me sighs yes. The age of the renaissance person may be long past as specialization is required to shift through the mass of information our society now produces.

BTW, you now know the origin of my SL avatar name.

Theophrastus Philippus Aureolus Bombastus von Hohenheim didn't fit in the avatar creation name field?

LMAO! Though, Bombastus might better portray my nature.

Once the Adult policy goes into place, residents who don't like the Adult policy should AR a depiction of the Crucifixion on PG land. Not for the purpose of harassing Christians (of which I am one.) The reason I would have for filing such an AR is to give Linden Lab the opportunity to let the depiction of the Crucifixion continue on PG land under the clause:

"We may take into account whether apparent or reported adult content or conduct on a particular Region serves only an extremely limited or passive function, or an important educational or cultural function, and therefore would be appropriate for all Second Life audiences."

Let Linden Lab build a record of who and what gets protection under the exception, and who are what doesn't.

Then, after Linden Lab has had that opportunity of applying the policy inconsistently and with bias toward certain persons or organization, that is the time to go to the media about Linden Lab censorship.

And it's really almost inevitable that the policy will be applied inconsistently and with bias. The policy is designed that way. The backdoor way to regulating expression from certain groups or individuals is to broadly regulate all expression, and then provide a catch-all exception that allows the authority figure to easily protect its favored groups.

In other words, "It is against the rules to have violence on PG land, except when we say it's okay to have violence on PG land."

Even though we all know where this is going, now is not the time to scream to the media. Right now the story is that there is some looney, unproven conspiracy theory about Linden Lab's motives. Give them the chance to actually do what we think they will do. Then, there is a documented, provable story of actual acts, and then people will take notice.

Yeah those non-Western Chinese just couldn't reason outside of mysteries and myths. They're so damned backward.

Most of us in these forums have a western frame of reference, admittedly limiting, but it is the only experience from which we can draw upon to describe our psyche. However, the concept of the evolution of consciousness, concretized in sacred writings and mythology world-wide, is still valid.

There is but there are also people who will AR to the letter of the law when to suit their goals, but whine like scalded cats when it is applied to them.
The fact is good and bad Religion has replaced the witchdoctors postion in controlling the tribe with the cheiftain.They were one the ways to control the populace giving a false sence of democracy to the tribe members, supposedly for the greater good and it was needed, now religion is a dinosaur it serves no purpose, because there isn't suffcient belief anymore and hopefully the human race has learnt from it's mistakes and formed it's evolving social structure.

Oh noes! A religion that discorages murder, rape, stealing, cheating on your partner, disrespecting your parents, beating your children and being a dickhead to everyone you meet! We can't have the children learning how to be good people now do we? We have to put it in the adult content section because as we all know ONLY adults can be perfect and innocent! Children can't be! Because all children are evil!

QFT. That's why I have dogs.

Just because something isn't Chinese, doesn't mean it's implying Chinese things are backwards.

The implication was that only Western minds were able to reason outside of mysteries and myths.

I disagree, I read that as Ephraim saying just he thinks Jesus Christ lifted the Western world some what. I don't see anything bad about non Western people in it at all.

Okay.

the lord shall put the churches where he wants them..and if he decides to put them in the adult section of SL or the PG section then i say..have some faith..

I think the point is that you can have the *exact same build* and call one copy "Church of the Holy Martyrs", and the other copy "Twisted Sam's Museum of Torture", and one would get to be on Mature land and the other not?

How many of you remember the medieval enthusiasm for self-mortification? Flagellation and all that? How is a monk getting whipped different than a submissive getting whipped?

For that matter the word "Islam" means submission.