Christianity is "Adult"!

Organized religion sucks, but sexy Catholic schoolgirl are an epitome of all that is good!

Pics please.

Only the good die young

Come out virginia, dont let me wait
You catholic girls start much too late
Aw but sooner or later it comes down to fate
I might as well be the one

They showed you a statue, told you to pray
They built you a temple and locked you away
But they never told you the price that you pay
For things that you might have done.....
Only the good die young
Thats what I said
Only the good die young x2

You might have heard I run with a dangerous crowd
We aint too pretty we aint too proud
We might be laughing a bit too loud
Aw but that never hurt no one

Come on virginia show me a sign
Send up a signal Ill throw you the line
The stained-glass curtain youre hiding behind
Never lets in the sun
Darlin only the good die young
(woah x5 )
I tell ya
Only the good die young x2

You got a nice white dress and a party on your confirmation
You got a brand new soul
Mmmm, and a cross of gold
But virginia they didnt give you quite enough information
You didnt count on me
When you were counting on your rosary
(oh woah woah)

They say theres a heaven for those who will wait
Some say its better but I say it aint
Id rather laugh with the sinners than cry with the saints
The sinners are much more fun...

You know that only the good die young
Oh woah baby
I tell ya
Only the good die young, x2

(just music here, saxaphone? )

You say your mother told you all that I could give you was a reputation
Aww she never cared for me
But did she ever say a prayer for me? oh woah woah

Come out come out virgina dont let me wait,
The catholic girls start much too late
Sooner or later it comes down to fate
I might as well be the one,
U know that only the good die young

Im telling u baby
Only the good die young x2
Only the gooooooooooooooood
Only the good die young
Only the gooooooooooooooood
Only the good die young
Ooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooooooooooo oooooooooo..

Pay attention in class!

(suggestive image if you're at work, btw)

http://www.curvyiga.com/images/sexy-schoolgirl-stockings.jpg

So much for paying attention in class, or work.

ok filed a response to reply on same ticket and was told depictions of the crucifixion was fine in church on pg land. But if abused outside of context then yes they would remove it. It's all about context and in the context of church its fine.

which i already knew, it's common sense. people love to nitpick like what about if it was shown at midnight on the 3rd of the month on a full moon after a bird flies from the north and squawks 3 times would it be ok then?

hehe

But I like the answer, proves common sense and common law type existence carries into second life to an extent. Since it's fine in the real world and obscene material in the US in public is illegal. So I support the same rules in second life.

for those that do not like it there is a second life competitor

go download
http://www.redlightcenter.com

-grin-

but anywho who really cares anyhow... it's just pixels... no biggie they can do whatever they want, Im happy with whatever.

If you want to ignore the advances being made through out those times by the Muslims. Sad that so many of those were destroyed by the Huns.

You are certainly entitled to your opinion of religion; however, I take *extreme* exception to your accusing me of child abuse for raising my children as Christians. Narrow-minded statements such as yours are the very thing wars and every other societal evil often attributed to religion are made of.

*blinks*

HOW long have you been playing SL???

I do appreciate you running that ticket. Still am unsure of common sense and what might constitute "abuse", but we can put that point to rest, eh?

Not quite true as there is no hard definition of what is obscene, but we need not pick any nits on it.

Here's the sticky point: Though Penitentes may be considered extreme in that they re-enact the actual suffering of a crucified person, it makes perfect sense to them in their religious practice to perform such a rite. Are they to be denied the public expression of their beliefs in PG land while other depictions, though static, e.g., the crucifix, are acceptable?

LOL, like the attitude [as long as we remember there are real people behind those bits and bytes], and wish more people would look at SL that way rather than as a stomping ground to propagate mis-placed personal agendas.

No, there is no real world correlation, because in the United States, depictions of violence are not regulated. Obscenity, which is broadly regulated as an exception to free speech, is sexual material, not violent material.

Linden Lab chose to include more than obscenity within its definition of adult. It included material showing extreme violence as well.

The important question of the thread is how Linden Lab how similarly or differently depictions of torture, based upon whether they have a religious stamp on them or not.

There is absolutely nothing common sense about the fact that a depiction of torture can be offensive, except when the victim is named Jesus, suddenly it's not offensive.

Your ignorance must be bliss to you indeed. If you took a second to apply some critical thinking skills to the whole debate, you would have easily seen that this debate is not about whether or not a cross can exist on a PG region. The question we are debating, which LL cannot answer without opening the door to a whole laundry list of ramifications, is this: Must the cross be empty and bare? Or can it have a beaten and bloody human body hanging from it? Is it okay to re-enact Good Friday in its gory entirety on PG land?

Please feel free to file a ticket on that, and see what kind of answer you get, if you get one at all.

Edit: Well, damn; you actually did... AND got a response! That'll teach me to read an entire thread before hitting "reply"...

Still... I would like to meet the poor Linden whose job it is to define what exactly is "in context" and what is "out of context" when someone AR's a Biblically-accurate rendition of Good Friday on a PG sim...

if the people with the imaginary big bearded guy on the clouds can display some random dude dead, bleeding, mutilated and otherwise tortured I should be allowed to wal around eating my own arm like a drumstick and with a gory hole where my eye usually is, the context? I'm hungry and I can heal anything no matter what. You say that can't be because I'm just making it up? Well, prove that those people didn't make up the the stuff that makes it ok the dead dude died like that.

in case my last post didn't come out the way I meant it to, I'll explain without playing

They can't just allow gory Jesus, this "context" thing is subjective, and will likely punish minorities and groups that don't share the same world views as whoever is applying the punishments at the moment.

It would be very disrespectful if they allowed exceptions only for certain groups and not others, they are in no place to pass judgments on the beliefs of some people (technicly they are 'cause they own the place and kinda forced everyone to "sign" the contract that gives them all the power, but abusing their power and being jerks about it will not be good for them)


the "I know when I see it" thing is bullcrap, it's way too subject to subjectiveness, what is obscene for some Lindens is completly natural and beautiful to many grannys and totally awesome and cool for some gradeschoolers

... and here's another sticky point: What about Rastafarians for whom the smoking of ganja is part of their expression of faith? As I understand it, depictions of illegal drugs are not OK on PG land.

MOST of us can recognise MOST adult content when we see it, but it's always the grey areas, borderline cases and exceptions (on the grounds of culture or anything else) which cause the problems. I think it's a bit naive to rely on the G-Team excercising "common sense" (whatever that may be with a global user-base) or the "spirit of the law". It may be nit-picking, but I would much rather see a very clear (if long) list of rules about what is OK and what is not OK, with an assurance that the rules will be applied consistently.

ETA: Yay! I slowly crawled to my 500th post!

That's pretty much an open question although it isn't the one that I was making: my original point was that the origins of Christianity represented a sea change in Western psychology whereby dialectics became a feature of thought rather than a relatively obscure exercise in intellectual noodling practiced by the Greeks.

In my opinion, the question of whether or not one subscribes to the religion or even believes in God is entirely moot but I do think it is rash to dismiss the prevailing cultural influence on Western thinking of the past two millennia as 'adult content'.

And, yes, I entirely agree that both on the personal and broader cultural levels, that influence could be just as much a negative as a positive. I find the zealotry of Dawkins and his ilk just as tiresome as any bible-thumping skypilot but the opposing attitudes are very much cut from the same cloth.


The Huns are irrelevant. İslam did not exist in the time of the Huns who were well done and dusted before the Prophet was born in the seventh century.

Very well put.

There's a big difference: Christianity, with all its rites, rituals, and beliefs, is a recognized religion. You are not.

Regardless of your beliefs, there was enough anecdotal evidence revealed over the years that supports the Bible's stories that a man named Yeshua (Jesus) lived around the time stated, and was executed by crucifixion and subsequently entombed nearby under what is now the Church of the Holy Sepulchre. Take from that what you may; but the man did exist, is the founding father of Christianity, is acknowledged as a prophet in Islam, and has touched a large number of religions worldwide.

On the other hand, there is no evidence, anecdotal or otherwise, that you can eat yourself and regenerate. If you want to push that kind of issue, you're going to have to produce proof.

"Anecdotal evidence" is as big an oxymoron as "organised religion".

Pep (When the Dalai Lama was asked if he could remember any of his past lives he replied that he couldn't even remember what he had had for breakfast.)

I'm glad you can own up to the evil of religion. It takes some hubris to cut people down in the same paragraph.

IDK his anecdotal evidence is just as compelling as the Jesus story along with the Adam and Eve story and the dude with the big boat with animals story. At least his doesn't come with the travesties of justice of transfer of guilt which is rampant throughout these books of the bible. WHAT? No proof at all the Jesus was more than a dude who died and was buried? Extrordinary claims merit extraordinary evidence, not just hearsay and "you can't know until you believe" reminiscent of the POD PEOPLE.

In a sense, yeh, but gore is already being sent to Adult. Thing is, if it isn't just kept to sex, everything really needs to go.

OMG, imagine the arguments between the Muslim & Christian fundies with the free sex and wild fetish!!!

Funny stuff.

It's only religion in world that presents us with an instrument of torture as means to hope and spiritual fulfilment. Hmmm, maybe Lindens not so wrong after all ...

Mind if I pick your nits? Long before christianity arrived, depictions of suffering, death, resurrection, etc., were central themes of many religions and flourished as cultural mythologies [Refer to the psychological definition of myth, not the pop version].

Christianity did not arise from a vacuum, magically inventing the images that it finally set in stone, but, rather, appropriated the themes and re-invented them so people would be predisposed and comfortable accepting these new ideas within their existing belief system.

I nitpick here only as to point out the inherent problem, as others in this thread have from the beginning, in the LL policy allowing certain religious elements to be accepted while others are banned.

This is why I posted the list of belief systems earlier in this thread: Where is the line drawn between acceptable and not acceptable beliefs? 'Cause we play SL, LL makes the rules and "they" can be as arbitrary as they want to be.

They will give in to popular demand and be most unconcerned about any fringe belief system. They don't need to care.

You will never see a list, and the reason for this is quite simple. The corporate attorneys advise against lists because then it locks the corporation into adhering to what they have written and opens the doors to law suits. Keep the wording vague so as to allow the corporation as much flexibility as possible in enforcing anything they so choose in whatever arbitrary way they so choose. [Reference any large corporate employee manual.]

And you receive a pie of your choosing!