where can I find pick camping places ?

Let's see the IM, because I don't threaten lives. In the circumstances of being so incredibly incensed by what you were doing, I may well have written something about stalking you, but let's see it. You can post it here.

Then Phil rakes all this up

If you consider that provoking then you obviously have forgotten what being provoked is really like, especially by me *laughs*.

You just don't get it do you? I repeat that THIS is you bringing it up - at least to me:-

It almost even reads as a threat to escalate tthings here.

No actually I cannot post it here because it against the forum guidlelines. Are you saying you altered the original posts? If not then people can go read them.

It does not say what you are making it out to say. It simply means I have said worse things to you than that you rake muck. I never even had that thread in mind, it was finished, over - or at least I thought it was.

You are seriously deluded if you think that is a threat to escalate it.

If you did not mean what I understood it to mean, then ok.

OK, F**King OK, after all this - and you expect to be taken seriously when you say "I don't start anything?" or "I don't muck rake".

This is obscene behavior, you made a promise and you broke it. You said you would never talk about that thread again, and you lied.
That is low after all that happened and I find it personally insulting you try to change the facts about it too as well as only telling the part of the story that made you look like the victim.

Its is disgusting behavior and totally unnecessary.

PS We all agree that paid picks are fine as long as they're relevant then!

No. What disgusting is that you brought it up in this thread. There is no other occasion "especially by me" fits. I'm sorry but I can't accept that you weren't thinking of that thread when you wrote it, so I don't accept that I brought it up here.

That is so much BS Rha, he is doing all of this.

Show me where I said anything other than Phil and Marcel rake muck too in response to your post attacking Sling?
Then Phil rakes all this up, then the rest is just setting the story straight. What blame am I shovelling on him? Did he not rake all this up after I said he rakes muck? Show me where I said worse until *HE* brought this subject up?

No, if he does not like this subject then he should have thought twice, he if anyone should drop it.

You always side with him though, funny that - you never criticize him for anything. So is it OK for him to bring all this up? Had I brought it up like I was accused of would that have been OK?

I very much doubt it, very much.

PS We all agree that paid picks are fine as long as they're relevant then!

I always side with phil? boy you see things a lot differently than I do

I am not discussing phil or phil's posts, I am not talking to phil or about phil

I was making comments on YOUR posts... that is why I did not make comments about phil's posts as his posts were not the subject I was discussing

you on the other hand, with just about every post, say that phil is to blame...

ok.,. so yes this time I will make a comment about phil, but of course you will say I am siding with him, and yes this time you will be right...

because I agree, your snide comment about him being provoked by you was totally uncalled for and I think you knew full well what memories it would incite in him.

in my opinion you knew full well that it would hurt him, so you said it as a reminder of one, his deceased mother, and two, the fact that you were able to provoke him, I personally think you get some perverse pleasure in knowing it hurt him... and most likely still does

there, now you have me siding with him, AND my opinion on the matter, but of course you will spin it to be phil's fault that you said and did what you did...

no matter.. I have an opinion and nothing you say will change it

This thread has been closed due to infighting, personal attacks, flaming and trolling. Please take such activities to third party forums.

PS We all agree that paid picks are fine as long as they're relevant then!

I did not bring it up, you did. I never even mentioned you mother, that thread or anything else - you did and you know it.

Show me where I mentioned any of those things. Show me a line that without any doubt or possible misinterpretation shows I brought the subject up. You cannot, there is none, you made a huge mistake and made a huge leap of assumption that was what I was referring to. You were wrong, everything else after that comes from your decision to do that, not mine.

Take some responsibility for once.

See you have judged what I wrote as meaning that.

You have no evidence and all my refutations to show I neither wanted that nor meant that in my post. Yet you have shown your true colours once again that you beleive him without any evidence that I even mentioned his Mother in this thread.

I could take any post here and give my meaning to make it seem like there was an agenda, would that be right or true - no, yet you beleive Phil implicitly.

I have a post that shows where those things were mentioned first - you choose to beleive that a post without those things was referring to them - not exactly impartial are you?

Obviously you never intended to find out what I meant in my post if you had any doubts but just sided with Phil's explanation. Well that is your choice but you are not basing it from facts.

I never once said it was a fact that what you said was in reference to his mother...

I said... it is my opinion, I clearly stated it is my OPINION!!! I never said it was a fact, nor do I claim it to be a fact

however I see it the way I do, nothing more... and nothing will change my mind... you can say that it was not meant that way, but it won't change how I saw it

maybe I am wrong, only you know for sure... but trying to convince me will just make me believe even more, that you did it purposely

and there are no facts here, only your word... and since I do not know you, your word really doesn't mean a lot to me, especially seeing the animosity between you two...

there are no facts to back things up, only your word, against his word, and my views as I seen it unfold...

*shrug*
you may not like that I believe you did it on purpose, nor will you like that I do not see you in a good light, however that is how it is, and like it or not, nothing will change it...

you might just have to accept it, just as I have had to accept that there are folks on the forums and RL that don't like me... life goes on...

Yes I know it was me who mentioned the thread specifically but, as I said, there was only ever one thread that your statement fits so, although you didn't specifically mention the thread, I can only believe that you were referring to it - in a way that only I would understand. You didn't bring it up to other people because your statement was aimed specifically at me, and only I would understand it. In other words, you brought it up to me personally.

Gabriele.

If you go through the thread and find where you believe I threatened your life, I think some of us appreciate seeing it, so would you please post the URL to it here.

It's a pity this thread got to this because, for a search 'gaming' thread, it was the most peaceful one that I remember. Insults and such have tended to decrease in this type of thread, and this one contained very few - and no nasty ones. Not many months ago, we could guarantee that these threads would turn nasty soon enough, but that aspect of them is fading away, and this one was really very good until the last few pages. Sling was even smooching me at one point

You were wrong and wrong to bring it up, you will always be wrong. I cannot be responsible if you read whatever you like into my posts. Even Rha asked you if that was what I meant. If it had been actually mentioned then she would not have had to ask.
You even admit in one post that you might have got it wrong and yet now you have backtracked with weasel words.
No which ever way you look at this, you read something that was not there and started this whole drama part of the thread thereby only confirming that you rake muck a lot of the time as stated by me. Sorry that is an inconvenient truth but there you go you have to deal wtih it.

If you consider that provoking then you obviously have forgotten what being provoked is really like, especially by me *laughs*.

Do as you please, just don't think you are any different from those you whinge about all the time in your drama filled self pity posts. Plenty of people gave you the benefit of the doubt, nice to see you don't return that, plank, eye, remove. enough said.

It is hilarious you think all this is justified because I dared to criticize your post which in turn highlighted that others do the same as you accused Sling of.

Your sense of proportion and appropriateness is way off.

Where the hell do you get off criticizing others when you won't accept any yourself or direct it to all deserving parties - agenda much, no of course not, never!

Then perhaps you would like to explain to me exactly what you did mean by that statement. It's obvious that I can't see anything other than it referring to that thread. If it doesn't, correct me please. Here it is again:-

It does not say what you are making it out to say. It simply means I have said worse things to you than that you rake muck. I never even had that thread in mind, it was finished, over - or at least I thought it was.

If you did not mean what I understood it to mean, then ok.

You really want to rake this over some more? It is your choice but at this point you can choose to drop it as I have no desire to go into this and never have.
I would rather you have not mentioned this thread at all like you promised.

It is up to you.

I have never once said people can not criticize me, just because I do not like it, doesn't mean folks can not do it...
hell no one likes to be criticized...
criticize me all you want (oh wait you are LOL)
I don't care or mind, we are all entitled to our opinion

(for the record I just went and read through that thread where you were using Phil's mother as ammo to get him to admit to something that you say is false)

That was pretty damn low of you

who the hell cares if someone says you are fat and ugly???

you used his deceased mom as a way to get him to admit he doesn't know for a fact if you are fat and ugly.... OMG...

yep... pretty bad in my opinion...