where can I find pick camping places ?

is that what she was gloating about when she said this?

I'm concerned by your attacks on Marcel - not worried. Do you know the difference? In terms of 'nice people', Marcel is light years ahead of you, so it concerns me that he's come under your unprovoked and unmerited attack.

Of course you are entitled to your view but, like everyone else, you are not entitled to post lies in this particular forum, and what you posted about Marcel is a lie. There was also another lie that I won't go into again.

I do respect the views of others, but I have no respect at all for lies.

I'm not worked up at all. Do you imagine that, when someone posts something opposing what you write, they are worked up? Are you that vain? You did manage to get me worked up once, by using such an incedibly low method that even Colette said you'd gone too far, and soon afterwards, you said the same yourself.

I haven't forgotten (I just mentiined it), but I'm staggered that you'd gloat about it now, when you should be so utterly ashamed of it. I guess people just can't change their spots.

For anyone who doesn't know what we're talking about, Gabriele is the worst person for attacking others that has ever been seen in the forum, by an incredibly long way. Most people do it in ways that she's mentioned, but not Gabriele. She attacks, or pokes fun at, people's recently deceased RL relatives as a means of provoking anger in the person.

is that what she was gloating about when she said this?



if so, then that is just wrong, low down dirty wrong

I am sorry to hear that phil, I dunno how recent this happened, but I am sorry about your loss too

I recently lost an aunt, and if someone used that death as a way of provoking me and poking etc, I would be royally pissed and never have any respect for that person, their point of views, nor their opinions ever again...

It certainly is not what I was doing at all. I resent that you repeat on Phil's say so that I am even gloating about it.

In the thread where Phil's mother came up, he brought up the subject and I had no idea that she had passed on.

He is only bringing this up again in an attempt to make me look bad because he cannot get at me any other way.

All this because I said he throws dirt too, clearly he does - the examples are strewn about here.

Yes it is. It had to have been incredibly bad for Colette to say that it's gone too far, but it did happen.

The relative was my mother, btw.

Someone had said that I think I'm always right and I mentioned that my mother used to say that too, and that I used to tell her that, while the disagrement continues, we both think we are right. Gabriele decided that, since I'd mentioned my mother, she was fair game to attack me with. So I said that, since she died not long ago, I'd appreciate it if she were left completely out of it. But that just made Gabriele more determined to use her to get at me. And incredibly 2 or 3 other people actaully agreed that since I'd mentioned my mother, she is fair game in the thread. So very shameful. That aspect stopped when Colette posted that it had gone too far.

notice I ASKED if that was what you were referring to and said IF Notice the IF, then it is a low down thing to do

goes without saying that IF you never did that, and IF you are not gloating about it, then my comments are for naught

however I am sure if I were to check posting history I would find that indeed you DID do what he said, so on that front, my comment stands.

if you were not gloating about it, then that part of my comment can be ignored

(by the way, knowing someone has passed on or not, is no excuse to use that person against another... if you have issues with a person, or are trying to make a point about that person, USE that person NOT someone they know, especially a RL someone they know)

just because you did not know she had passed on, is no excuse...

Yes it did get out of hand and I made *ONE* comment after I found out she had passed on and I was extremely provoked by you.

Phil, I was not even referring to that, I don't know why you even bring it up.

I have managed to provoke you on at least several other occasions with a lot more than "You throw dirt too Phil".

Yeah so I am the worst liar in your opinion

Marcel and you are so good and blameless - well, do you know how much that surprises and bothers me? Very little.

People reading these posts will see everything for the way they are or they will not. I have no problem with that and nothing I have written is a problem for my conscience.

If you and Marcel create all this drama just because I said to Rha that everyone slings mud around here then too bad.

I am sorry Rha but there was a heavy dose of prejudgement in your last post and in this. I never said that I didn't say thing about his mother but he brought her up as he has again, and I did not know she had died. Then as the situation had gotten to the point where I had lost sight of what is reasonable too I made a single further comment about her before Collete intervened.

You can go read also about how he wanted to hurt me and told me he would come after me in RL and how he told everyone on the forums I was fat and ugly in RL and that some of my friends had told him that.

That is how Phil operates too.

Had I known Phil's Mother had died, I would never have even jumped on *HIS* mentioning of her.

That was the only time you succeeded in provoking me, Gabriele. So it was natural to think that you were referring that that one.

No you haven't. We may havw had argumentative discussions, which I don't even remember, but I do know very well when I get angry or provoked. That one with you was one of only two times it's happened, and you were only a tiny bit of the first one. So tuny that I wouldn't even you remember you were in it.

I didn't say that. Imo, you're not the worst liar. I merely said that what you've written about Marcel is a lie, and that there was another one too.

Marcel really is blameless in terms of throwing insults - that's why what you keep saying about him concerns me. I'm not blameless as far as insults are concerned, and I've written many times that I do it. I find it hard to believe that a forum regular, such as yourself, doesn't know that, so I consider it a lie when you wrote that nobody on this side admits to it.

If people want to examine all the posts, that's true, but you know as well as I do that mud sticks - if only a little. You threw mud at Marcel, unjustifiably, and a little is likely to stick. You are dead wrong.

That's typical of you. "I don't care if what I write is true or not. It's just too bad for those i write it about if people choose to believe it."

you assume prejudgment... however there was none...

my comment was IF you did what he claimed then it was a lo down thing to do

goes without saying IF you did not, then well, nothing low down about it...

you admitted to doing what he said, pretty cut and clear in my opinion...

however you will see my comments as you wish... not gonna argue with you about it

In the thread where Phil's mother came up, he brought up the subject and I had no idea that she had passed on.

No I did not admit to all he put at all. I suggest you go and find out the truth.

You don't think threatening to stalk and harm me in RL is not low down then? That is acceptable?
I had to be the one to remind him that his posts might lose him his business if he continued too. He didn't mention that either did he?

I really don't care what you think of me Rha, in my opinion anyone who is admitted stalker and violent by his own admission man is lower than anything I have done and those that side with him are no better.

Read post #426 again. I added a paragraph pretty much straight away.

You didn't know that she had passed on when you started on her, but when I asked you to stop it because she had died not long ago, it just geed you up on the mother thing and gave you greater determination to use her as a means of making me angry - so much so that Colette stepped in. It's all still there in the thread.

you assume prejudgment... however there was none...

my comment was IF you did what he claimed then it was a lo down thing to do

goes without saying IF you did not, then well, nothing low down about it...

you admitted to doing what he said, pretty cut and clear in my opinion...

however you will see my comments as you wish... not gonna argue with you about it

(as for the phil comments, IF he did what you claim, then yes that is pretty low too, however I would justify it IF it was done after you decided to use his deceased mother against him)

but being I do not know the whole ordeal nor do I care to, I would say that given what has been disclosed here, you both did unforgivable things, which is apparent by your animosity towards each other

Yes it did get out of hand and I made *ONE* comment after I found out she had passed on and I was extremely provoked by you.
You fail to mention how you threatened to come stalk after me in RL to hurt me too isn't it?

I think a few pot shots at your Mother when I had no idea she was dead and you brought her up, pales in comparison to illegal threats and violations at least of the TOS of the forums and SL itself.

Do you want me to send around the PM where you admit this is wrong for you to be doing and that you almost AR's your own posts? Really?

please go back and read my post again, I must have been editing it when you quoted it as the part about phil and his threats are not in your quote...

I did actually AR myself - twice - because what you were doing was so incedibly low and effective that I would stalk you here in the forum. My AR said that.

As far as me threatening to stalk you in RL, I'd rather see the posts that take your word for it. It does ring a slight bell, but I'd like to see where it occured as I believe it occured after you got stuck into my mother, and after you refused to stop getting stuck into my mother. I wqs so *incredibly incensed* by what you did that I might well have written that.

I don't remember what the *ONE* comment that you made was (one is not none), but I do remember that you repeateddly refused to stop, even if you didn't make any specific attacks. It wasn't until Colette intervened that you decided not to post any more about it.

Fair enough and I accepted my part of the blame for this a long time ago and started here afresh afterwards but it seems Phil will not let it go. You of all should understand about a fresh start Rha.

No one is changing anyone's mind. Have a good day.

No actually I made one further comment and that is because you had already threatened my life, care to comment on that too? That is there also in the thread, sorry but making comments about someones Mother is small fries to threatening someones life.

You go to the police and say that someone said bad things about your Mother and you will be told to ignore it and grow a thicker skin. You go to the police and say that someone has said they are going to stalk and harm you, then show them a note where they say it and the police are going to come and ask you questions.
Quite a different order of seriousness.

Ask why Phil why he really brought it up? Can there be any more definition of shit-stirring than this? And all because I said he rakes muck? Well it seems he does, does it not?

If you consider that provoking then you obviously have forgotten what being provoked is really like, especially by me *laughs*.

stop shoving the blame on phil

he can only start anything if you allow him

by you replying, and getting upset with him all over again, you are just as much to blame

and yes I know all about fresh starts, and usually that means do not try to blame the other

just step back, let it go and stop saying "phil did this or phil did that, so I did what I did, etc"

You vaguely remember threatening me?

Wow, just wow - you should have been on the receiving end of those threats it is as scary as getting threats from anywhere.
You are just lucky I did not call the police as well as ARing your posts.

I still have that PM where you admit it and apologize for doing it too as I had a feeling you might stir it up again.
Obviously your apology and admission were hollow and without honour.
Well anyone can go and read those threats at least in my quotes even if you have removed or changed them. They are real and were the worst thing I have seen anyone do to another person on these forums.

Don't be ridiculous! I've never threatened anyone's life. That is so stupid. You think I am stupid enough to threaten someone's life in public???

The thread is still there if we can find it.

Why I brought it up? I'll tell you why:-

That's why.

You have only ever got to me once, so it was obvious that that's what you were referring to.

Now I'm going to find that thread if I can, because you are lying about me threatening your life, and I believe you are doing it because we can't readily check. It's such an outrageous charge, that simply didn't happen, that i have to see for myself what you are twisting, because, if you are not just making it up (lying), you are definitely twisting something.